I did a lot of searching to find something about this but didn't find much.

A client would like me to add JSP support to the server. I have heard that some host don't support JSP because it is CPU incentive. Is that correct? - If supporting JSP is not recommended what is the most important reason for that? Would you recommend it? Thanks for any input.

John

That's the reason...it uses a lot of resources. I offer it on some servers, but I do charge extra for it.

I was thinking of offering JSP, but it was consuming A LOT of cpu resources, so i turned off, maybe in the future ill think of enabling this again. Though, most of the customers wont ask for this kind of support. :)

Regards

it is not just cpu resources. pretty memory intensive too. in general, resource intensive.

Plus it is support intensive. Seems every person who wants to run JSP on their site requires some custom config.

Ok, thanks alot for your input :)

John

Originally posted by UmBillyCord
Plus it is support intensive. Seems every person who wants to run JSP on their site requires some custom config.

To add to that, is it just me or does it seem like most of the people using JSP considers themselves to be quite a bit smarter than, well, smarter than others may think they are? Seems like a lot of JSP guys really think highly of their technical abilities and often resort to telling us how things oughta be done. (we don't list JSP in our offerings or support it but will enable it if someone asks).

Well obviously Java has its hype and as a consequence so does JSP ... together with it, of course, there's lots who adopted it, but less people who can actually do it. Therefore, they probably think themselves as elite. I used to have 20 java/jsp/servlets programmers. They come in fresh, learn, and jump ship for higher pay faster than you can blink.

Can be very resource intensive. We have one server on which just one site has JSP setup and the loads go up to about 400 during peak times.

Originally posted by Dixiesys


To add to that, is it just me or does it seem like most of the people using JSP considers themselves to be quite a bit smarter than, well, smarter than others may think they are? Seems like a lot of JSP guys really think highly of their technical abilities and often resort to telling us how things oughta be done. (we don't list JSP in our offerings or support it but will enable it if someone asks).

This is funny. I actually had the same exact thing in my post. I removed it because I didn't want to explain to people who question what I meant. This is exactly what we see. Total pain in the ass Brainy Smurfs. :D

We finally dropped JSP support on all but our high-end plans, then wrote a support doc on *exactly* what we support when it comes to JSP. If you don't, you will spend hours configuring things to meet the needs of one person.

Of course thisis just our experience, but it sounds like others run into this. :)

Originally posted by Dixiesys


To add to that, is it just me or does it seem like most of the people using JSP considers themselves to be quite a bit smarter than, well, smarter than others may think they are? Seems like a lot of JSP guys really think highly of their technical abilities and often resort to telling us how things oughta be done. (we don't list JSP in our offerings or support it but will enable it if someone asks). Not from my experience... we had one guy sign up for a litle $6.99/mo plan, and didn't know anything unix wise. Although he did need a custom rig, and in this case he wanted to run some JSP chat engine as root. Then he got mad because we wouldn't, allow it (vulgar language over phone).

Anyways the funny part of the server is he sent some windows executables, instead of the proper unix executables. :D

Tomcat4 will certainly use up a load of resources, we run tomcat 3.2.3 on our servers, tried tomcat 4 and switched back because of the excess resource useage. we found tomcat 3.xx reasonable for shared hosting.

Supporting Jsp is a pain. As such there is little demand of java based hosting compared to php+mysql or Asp+access+sql .

Not worth to have java installed just for 2-3 clients. Servers will remain happier with no java installed.

Anyway the clients who need java for serious applications (like banking in finance sector) will probably have their own dedicated boxes.

Regards,

Hi Manish
My experience is different to yours because 50% of my customers use java, probably because of the way we are marketing, people looking for java find us..

Reggie