(My topic is a little different to the one TimGreer started)

Currently I'm after two domains which expired two month ago. For one of two I asked the (now previous) owner if he want's to use it anymore and he said 'no', take it.
My problem: the domains expired more than two month ago and the both registrars don't release them. I emailed both, the first one answered "for performance we do bulk erases and will not tell anyone when". The second one doesn't answer at, in the meantime when I do a WHOIS I get an "no match for xxx.com" but holds it.
:angry:
What can I do?

Your best course of action (and maybe the only one) would be to get the previous owner to renew if s/he still can, and then have them transfer it to you. They have (or at least had) a certain amount of time (I think 60 days) after expiration to reclaim their domains

If it is presently with NSI, they probably still charge $119 to transfer it to another name. You could wait until after 60 days and transfer it to an Open SRS registrar (on the present owner's behalf), where you can change anything at no cost, and then put it in your name.

Meanwhile, the e-mail address on record fo the previous/present owner, could and should be yours.

That's the easiest way if that option is still available. Too many registrars are hanging on to expired domain names as if they had a legitimate right to them,

Is there anything legal that can be done?

I don't think so unless the domain name is a copyright or something along those lines.

I think it would take a class action suit against Verisign (and any other registrar that holds on to expired names) to end the problems with NSI. While ICANN was started by the government and is supposed to be independent, its roots to government show all too much.

The dirty secret deals, abuse of procedures, failure to respond to the needs of the Internet users, much less anticipate them, even when obvious to all but bureaucrats, are all symptoms of a much larger problem, ICANN itself. In fact, they should probably call it ICANN'T, or YOUCANN'T

I believe it was on ICANN's site a few months ago that I read of some companies and/or countries that, unhappy with ICANN over the TLD issues, were just planning on bypassing them altogether.

The ICANN issue is much more serious than many realize. Their ineptitude and gross incompetence, coupled with their shady dealings, have already begun shaping the Internet in undesirable ways. I think relatively few people understand the true significance and power of the Internet as it grows in importance on a global basis.

The decisions made by ICANN will affect the world for decades to come. It is important to change or replace ICANN with an organization that functions properly and responds to the needs of the Internet. Administration by government and technology do not mix well together. ICANN proves that every day, even if its government ties may no longer be official.

***Chris stands up slowly and so does the fellow Mafia members***

Then hands Duster his 2nd most vauable .45,

***Duster realizes the respect and power that has just be handed to him***


The firearm is used to show the great point Duster just made, and the Mafia ties show anyhow, just for you gunhaters out there....:bawling:

Damn.

I think of mailing ICANN a complaint about the two registrars.