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vect0r
08-12-2010, 11:17 AM
I am looking to host a remote backup server. I would like the software to be brand-able, and it should support both mac and pc machines.

Anyone have any experiences out there on which might be best for this area?

help_james84
08-16-2010, 06:17 AM
Been looking for something similar. However I am also looking for the same company to host the data as well. I was thinking of using Jungle Disk backup service as a reseller which removes their branding. On paper it looks good but would probably help if some people on here gave their views if used the service.

host4sale28
08-16-2010, 10:11 AM
If you're looking to roll your own, I'm pretty sure r-backup from remote - backup . com has what you're looking for. I haven't used them myself, but a number of my industry friends have with good results.

Cape Dave
08-16-2010, 10:38 AM
I have used Vembu software to good end. www.vembu.com It has the features you want.

ASiteHost
08-16-2010, 03:54 PM
Thanx everyone for this info!

xihaunde
08-22-2010, 09:37 PM
It has the features you want.?

vect0r
09-07-2010, 05:44 PM
Doesn't really appear to be all that many good ones out there. Apparently CrashPlan Pro let's you rebrand the software.. It's a great piece of software as well. Only problem is you have to buy a minimum of 15 clients to become a reseller so it has a pretty high startup cost.

Webfuse
09-12-2010, 12:24 PM
I currently use JungleDisk reseller and am very happy. The software is very intuitive yet simple to use. As a reseller they remove the JungleDisk branding and use MySecureBackup. The software is compatible on all Windows, Linux and Mac computers as well as Windows and Linux servers. The pricing is simple at $4.00 per computer and $5.00 per server with 10GB free backup space. Also it is nice that they provide the option of using Rackspace Cloud Storage or Amazon webservices S3. I have decided to go with Rackspace Cloud Storage as it has proven to be stable and reliable as well as there is a fixed cost of .15 per GB without any data transfer costs. They provide a resellers kit, great support and all though it is not completely re-branded it is the best I could find available without having to dish out a $10,000 re-branding fee.

help_james84
09-12-2010, 06:53 PM
sounds like you have had a good experience webfuse. i don't understand why anyone would go for the amazon option as there is a per hit charge as well. sure rackspace is solid data centre.

you seem reaonably familiar with the software can i ask couple questions. can you setup one desktop account and use it with linux/windows server os's instead of normal desktop os's. i probably only need to send about 8gb from a couple of different servers at the moment (i guess 20gb by time use some previous file changes) and didn't think it was worth having 3 server accounts or 3 workgroup user accounts. could i get one desktop client account and just use that on the 3 servers. will there be a noticeable functionality difference.
do you know if jungle disk use raid hard drive configs. just hoping they have some redundancy on their own side in case a hard drive failure and save me from having to do a massive upload again.
finally, i can't work out the advantages of using server/workgroup editions. i think i could get more services from the workgroup edition i.e. a shared network drive for a start?

albatroz
09-14-2010, 02:18 PM
Vembu.com looks very interesting.

I have used Vembu software to good end. www.vembu.com It has the features you want.

Daryl
09-14-2010, 02:20 PM
You might also want to check out Ahsay Backup - www.ahsay.com

Webfuse
09-14-2010, 08:50 PM
help_james84

I hope this helps:

How many users does the Workgroup Edition support?

Great question – with a great answer: there’s no limit to the number of users or computers. Simply pay $4 per user per month and each user can use the software on as many computers as they choose.

Pulled from: https://www.jungledisk.com/business/workgroup/faq/

Inside the Cloud Files™ datacenter, intelligent software makes multiple copies of your data on at least three different devices in two distinct zones of the datacenter. (Each datacenter zone uses separate power and network connections.)

Pulled from: http://www.rackspacecloud.com/cloud_hosting_products/files/technology

Coolraul
09-14-2010, 09:03 PM
Strong recommendation for http://www.sosonlinebackup.com/ it has the most complete white label solution.

Cape Dave
09-14-2010, 10:13 PM
Another really good one is Intronis.com.

crazylane
09-15-2010, 10:34 AM
I have used Vembu software to good end. www.vembu.com It has the features you want.

I setup a trial account with Vembu Pro however I can't seem to find the pricing. Any idea?

Richard-BCS
09-15-2010, 11:00 AM
I think you have to contact them directly since they don't state any pricing on their site. You can do that if you follow this link:

https://pro.vembu.com/pricing.php

Cape Dave
09-15-2010, 11:23 AM
FYI the Vembu software I have used is the Storegrid version. This lets you buy it and install it on YOUR server.

If that is not what you want, then the Pro version mentioned above is better, of course.

HostingAmerica
09-15-2010, 03:42 PM
You might also want to check out Ahsay Backup - www.ahsay.com

This software is high up there in terms of cost-effectiveness and quality. To be clear, this is what you would use if you were creating your own product, not reselling.

Limitations that we've seen are that Ahsay can't do bare-metal restores on Windows machines. Perhaps the group has a different experience, but that's what we've seen. Also, support is based in China (I believe) and can be rather slow to respond (not nearly as slow as parallels, but I digress)

I've also heard good things about r1soft's backup product.

vect0r
09-15-2010, 10:19 PM
Lot's of great recommendations here, unfortunately only a couple of them are cross platform compatible. (Mac/Windows).

albatroz
10-11-2010, 07:18 AM
A customer is asking me a desktop backup solution, so I was thinking of offering a solution based on bmonkey (backup monkey) and Rsyncpalace what do you think of it?

Would it be too difficult to manage for a regular user?

crazylane
10-11-2010, 10:41 AM
Jungledisk works for clients.

Cape Dave
10-11-2010, 12:10 PM
I use Jungledisk currently for clients. I also own Rbackup and Vembu.

host911
11-14-2010, 11:41 AM
I think xzbackup.com offers what you are looking for. we been with them about a year and so far no complains.

SoftDux
12-02-2010, 03:33 PM
Does anyone know if a single license of Vembu or Ahsay can be used by one client on 3 different computers? I.e. Bob wants to backup his PC, his laptop and his wife's PC. Does he need 3 licences from Vembu / Ahsay, or just 1?

Jamesc
12-02-2010, 05:29 PM
If your refering to vembu pro (their own service) then you will pay for each installation of the client and the total storage used.

Chrispyduck
12-02-2010, 07:29 PM
We have been looking at attix5.

Good product, Excellent for SMB's and home users.

Can be a little pricy however.

Webfuse
12-02-2010, 08:31 PM
I was using the Jungle Disk reseller for a while and was happy with he product but was looking for something brandable.

From this post I gave xzbackup.com a try.

Very impressed so far. By the way they utilize ahsay software. Everything was re-branded within 24 hours of signing up. The control panel and the software was fully customized even the terms and conditions you agree to during the software installation is customized with my brand. They have a single license and a advanced license which will allow for I believe unlimited users. I bought the advanced license for $29.95 one time and am backing up my laptop, desktop, servers, parents computers, and a friends laptop. Then I pay $1.00 per month per GB and you must buy in blocks of 25. Yet they compress the data to about 65% of the original and they are always having specials. For example they are selling 1GB for 0.75 (again must be purchased in blocks of 25). I am very satisfied with he quality of the product and their customer service. I have only been a customer for a month though.

SoftDux
12-03-2010, 03:58 AM
If your refering to vembu pro (their own service) then you will pay for each installation of the client and the total storage used.

ouch, what a bummer. Does anyone know of a similar, brandable backup solution which will allow one client to use the same software on more than one PC, and backup to our backup servers (i.e. not something like Jungle Jim)?
Due to our bandwidth restraints we can't use hosted backup solutions, and need to use our own servers for clients to backup their data. But, I can't force a client to pay for 3 licenses just cause he's got 3 PC's, that's stupid

nibb
12-13-2010, 11:49 PM
I have used most backup softwares. Jungledisk is very nice, r1soft works the best of all but its not brandable and expensive. Also its not for remote backups. You better be in the same datacenter or LAN when doing backups, even on the same city will probably not work. Tried WAN backup with 100 mbit connections and its very, very slow, if you need it for internet backups forget it.

Ahsay, I would recommend this one just like I would jumping of a cliff. Expensive and its the worst possible garbage of software out here. IT works so well that many of their customers losed data because of it. Yes, imagine that, the software that is supposed to protect you actually corrupts the data. They are expensive, the support is none to 0 and their development is so slow that some bugs can take 2 or more years to get fixed. I used them for 3 years and they still have the same bugs.

Their software design seems to be made by a monkey, like you could not turn or email reports per client off. It sends like 10 emails per day for backups and you cannot turn them off!! Well you can but only server wide, which means the whole server will not send mails. What kind of person designs such a software and forgets such a basic task? Also, they never ever go it to work with Windows 7 correctly, dont even try to run it on a 3 year old laptop because it mostly freezes the whole OS.

Well that is my short experience with them.

Vembu? Well im testing them for a couple of months and so far they are very good. Nice features, and most important it works. Their branding is not the best of the world, its like they just replace the words, a few colors, and thats it, they also have some smaller issues with some basic stuff but you get fixes for everything. Some manually, and the rest they are very open with everything and willing to patch and fix stuff, which is important. The product has become really stable over the years and seems to have a bunch of interesting features (I cannot say how all of them work)

Overall I would recommend them, and yes you have to pay per installation, same with Ahsay as far as I know. I dont think there are to many options if you need to backup multiples computers. With Vembu I do think you could actually do this. Like using the same ID and username on each computer backing to the same account but, using different names for each schedule, but to be honest I did not tried this out, you actually pay per account (account on the server) with them so they would care less if its one PC or 10 PCs, if its the same client and data, it would go into the same account. But most people dont do this. Usually each computer has its own account but I do understand that some people require this, specially home users sharing data.

Their prices are more or less fine. For business it seems ok, but home users it would be to expensive, specially because it looks cheap but then you are nickel and dime for each feature or plugin so overall the cost per client is not cheap. But at least it does seems to work and data is actually protected. Tested a few systems and recovery, the speed is very nice as well, with Ahsay I would see bandwidth speeds like 40% to 50% of the connection you have, with Vembu its like 85%, I guess the rest is the software overheat layers.

RFEHosting
12-13-2010, 11:58 PM
Do any of those solutions provide whm/cpanel backups?

I currently use siteautobackup.com and its not bad.

But am shopping around for some more space, at a cheaper price.

nibb
12-14-2010, 12:03 AM
Do any of those solutions provide whm/cpanel backups?

I currently use siteautobackup.com and its not bad.

But am shopping around for some more space, at a cheaper price.


R1Soft can integrate into your customers cPanel. Its more like a plugin/addon that logs them in, very poorly code, I fixed it myself but it works. And your customers can only recover data specific to their accounts.

But if you mean about protecting the server, any of this solutions can. There would be 0 problems with it, they all would run fine on a CentOS linux and you can schedule to backup the whole server or any cpanel account datas, manually of course. Im not sure what you mean with cPanel backups. If your question is using cpanel backup feature, with this solutions, the answer is no. This are backup softwares and they run with their own interfaces. cPanel backup interface is just a web face for compressing data on a tar file and sending them via Rsync or FTP to another server.

You are able to protecting your servers if that is your question, but not just cpanel servers, but any server.

samyboy445
01-14-2011, 07:42 AM
how many users over here????

albatroz
01-14-2011, 07:43 AM
I think we should gather and ask Sugarsync.com a partnership program for companies like ours :)

CityNick
01-15-2011, 04:59 AM
For open source options check out Amanda by Zmanda. Also check out the open source Bacula. Both of those above open source backup solutions are enterprise ready which is good for you. For proprietary solutions check out Novastore and Vembu. I also offer storage space from 4 cents a GB. Feel free to pm me.