We are looking to get some new lines. We are looking at UUnet, Leavel3, Verio and Cable & wireless.
We have Verio now and are upgrading that line but we are adding more. We are going to run BGP. So far verio has had about 100% uptime. We do have UUnet but at his point fed up with them. They go down at least once a week on us.

So i wanted to take a Vote on who is the better one. I know UUnet is one of the bigger ones but man they are starting to suck.

Would just like a idea on who every oen think is the best. Also if you knwo where we can get a great deal on a good network foe T3's and up please post it as well.

It might be worth checking out either Qwest or Globix. Or even GlobalCrossing.

I'd go for level3 and as what jty said global crossing http://www.gblx.net , that is b/c my dad's machines are on gblx.net , i think :blush:

An e-commerce company I did some consulting for uses Global Crossing (its Australian branch) in my city for its co-lo, and service/security/support has been consistently phenomenal for the last year and a bit.

Global Crossing is like the UUNET of asia right? they are a paaain!! atleast from here in India.. they always have major packet losses when going to VDI :(

Well Global Crossing is a big provider, and every provider has their faults.

We had Global Crossing at our old DataCenter and had all kinds of problems so i think i will stay away from them. Right now we have verio. I thought they would be a pain in the ass but have never had one problem. But we need some back up lines is more less what these lines will be for verio. Right now we use Verio and UUnet as back up but UUnet is down so muc if verio did go down UUnet might not be up when i need it the most..LOL Thanks fo all the in put. Not sure who we will go with yet. Talked with Level3 today.. THey sound good for a back up and there networks looks good as well.

How dumb am I, what about Internap, http://www.internap.net/ ?

kunal gblx is equivalent to UUnet in asia , i think.

I just talked to my dad today and he told me, they only got a few machines left (i think 208.178.12.34) at gblx -l.a,they moved all their machines in alchemyfx :blush:

I would take cable and wireless over any of those.

Outstanding company.

I would also take Yipes over PSInet and some others on that list.

Joe

I've been watching problems with glbx and AT&T for the past 24 hours or so... Neither one is in my good books right now. AT&T are probably the poorest of the lot in my eyes.

Greg Moore

We have used pretty much all of the big ISP's for transit and run BGP with all of them.

Cable and Wireless is probably the best connected, but they shafted us twice, continuing to bill us after we decided not to renew our contracts with them due to service issues. The first one was settled out of court, the second (after about a million promises of better quality service) is in the hands of the lawyers at the moment.

Level 3 are worse than Xcom, they are not competent and I would not recommend anyone use them for anything. VDI's problems with them really came as no surprise to me.

Verio provides good service, but we didnt' renew with them after they forced a renumbering of a /20 on us and nearly put us out of business.

UUNet has always been the ISP's ISP, but they are no longer. Their service levels have become very poor-it was one thing to pay $2500/T1 for T1's that never went down, but we likely won't be renewing with them. They are also experiencing quite a lot of turnover in their staff and what they have are less knowledgeable than they used to be. It may be due to the fact that they are now a major DSL Internet transit for Covad (about the last one now in business).

Digex (formerly Intermedia) is a provider we've been using since the first of the year. There were no problems with the installation and turn-up, no routing issues, no outage issues. And they are billing us the amount we agreed to pay for the service they agreed to provide, and their prices are very competitive.

Try Digex, my CTO is extremely picky and he gives them the thumbs up.

Phoenix
Thanks a ton man.

I think i will stay with Verios T3's and get some of Digex and run BGP with them. Verio has been great and a lot better then UUnet has every been for us. For one UUnet over chages for there lines and they go down more then verio does.

At First i thought verio would be the one to go down all the time but its been the other way around. UUnet goes down at least 4 times a week on us for at least 5 min and up to 40 at times. Verio on the other hand has never been down and i do mean never not one min in over 8 months. The most Verio has ever been down is when we have to restart some thing..:)

I know most users hate verio because of there billing in the WebHosting part but so far i have not had this problem and from talking to them they should now have it fixed from what i have heard formt them.


Seems every one still likes UUnet i just find that odd... But some users liek them some don't thats what makes the wrold go around...LOL

This is why AT&T is so screwed up... They fired about 10,000 employees and then went out on the net trying to find less expensive replacements. Based on a resume of mine from about a year and a half ago, they send me an email with the following; (In order to appreciate the humor, you should know that I am married, live in California, have 3 kids, and most important of all... I am a mechanical and architectural design engineer for custom SERVERS!)

We think you are qualified for the following position!!

Job ID: 01TE9
Description:


This local network service
s program management position will interface with internal and external AT&T local network services organizations to ensure timely and accurate delivery of network implementation for AT&T Broadband National Program initiatives. Duties will include development and implementation of cross-organizational project plans, plan of record tracking, project status reporting, service assurance testing methods as well as contract management support. Incumbent must have knowledge of switch and transport engineering and local service provisioning. This includes a working understanding of rate center development, switch feature and E911 provisioning and line/trunk side transport provisioning. The project manager will develop and lead teams to investigate and document cross-organization processes to ensure peak coordination and efficiencies. Candidate will also be responsible for specific issue identification, issue resolution coordination and project status reporting. The successful candidate should have a good working knowledge of engineering/provisioning systems as well as Microsoft Word, Excel and PowerPoint and have strong verbal and written communication skills. This manager will also provide administrative support for support staff personnel. This position will be located in Englewood, Colorado. No relocation monies available. 5 plus years in Telecom with 3 plus years managing a team. Experience required in ASR/COLR/Order Manager. Position will report to a C level. Moderate travel required.

AT&T will consider qualified candidates with technical training authorization to work in the United States. AT&T will also consider qualified candidates with temporary and permanent authorization to work in the United States.

AT&T is an Equal Opportunity Employer. We welcome and encourage diversity in the workplace.

AT&T It's all within your reach.



Requirements: %Travel 10-25
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Expertise Network Operations
Start Date Negotiable
JobLevel Senior
JobType Full-time
Education Bachelors or equivalent work experience

Originally posted by Vortech
Phoenix
Thanks a ton man.



You are most welcome, we've been in business for 6 years, doing facilities-based web hosting for 5, and as one of the industry's 'old guard', it behooves us to share our experiences as they may keep other people from getting screwed the same way.

There are a lot of serious issues with the providers in our industry, and they seem to be growing worse instead of better. Fighting with vendors over service and billing issues consumes more of our time than it really should.

This is my contact at Digex, he's a good guy (an actual sales rep who didn't lie to me, woo hoo!):

Cory Hallowitz
Account Executive
1-888-993-4439 ext. 5284
Direct: 301-847-5284
Fax: 301-847-5055
cphallowitz@intermedia.com

Oh, and if anyone out there is even thinking about purchasing transit from Savvis-DO NOT! One of my colleagues made the mistake of purchasing a T3 from them. The information that they provide regarding their network infrastructure is pure fiction, and it took them 8 months to install the circuit, and when they did it was down for days and weeks at a time.

All of the providers you listed can be good and bad depending on location. Some are good in certain locations while being the worst in other locations. It all depends where you are.

In this area (NYC), BBNPlanet is very good. Sprint is also very good. Level 3 just plain sucks in this area!