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View Full Version : Backup services..
mike2010 06-09-2010, 06:01 PM I'm surprised there isn't a Backup Services section on this forum....or maybe I missed it ?
Have any of you had any experience with eVault. good / bad ?
I have about 1 GB of total server stuff to backup.. (/vhosts , mysql databases , etc)
I usually do 1 backup a week...and use WinSCP to backup from my server to my desktop (vista) ..but it takes about 4 hours. Does that seem normal ?
I'd really like something a little more automated and done weekly. but paying an additional $30 a month for a legit backup service seems kind of hefty.
spdfox 06-09-2010, 06:05 PM I use bqinternet.com, excellent service
cyberturk 06-09-2010, 06:24 PM Hi,
I have used bqinternet before and realy I can recommend them to you
mike2010 06-09-2010, 06:36 PM ^spam alert..
Amitz 06-09-2010, 06:41 PM I see recommendations for bqinternet so often, but their website does offer nearly zero information about the company and their services. I mean, I am supposed to store a backup of my precious data with them and their website seems (I, of course, know it better based on all the positive feedback here) like the one of a fly-by-night operation. Am I the only one with this impression? I was often tempted to use their service, but their website always prevented me from doing so...
cyberturk 06-09-2010, 06:47 PM ^spam alert..
Who? me?
I have used them on 2007 and that below message is the only message I have posted about them. Make a search on the forum.
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=4343916&postcount=6
mike2010 06-09-2010, 06:52 PM Who? me?
I have used them on 2007 and that below message is the only message I have posted about them. Make a search on the forum.
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=4343916&postcount=6
It looks like a site that was put together in less than 5 minutes..
I feel like i'm watching that Bank of Nikolai commercial.. "your money is safe with me.... I put it in right pocket".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m9inopXKB4
netroby 06-09-2010, 06:56 PM you may buy a second vps , use lftp to mirror your database everyday via cron.
I am also got more than 1 GB files to backup. so just do the same way.
Jacob Wall 06-09-2010, 07:41 PM I see recommendations for bqinternet so often, but their website does offer nearly zero information about the company and their services. I mean, I am supposed to store a backup of my precious data with them and their website seems (I, of course, know it better based on all the positive feedback here) like the one of a fly-by-night operation. Am I the only one with this impression? I was often tempted to use their service, but their website always prevented me from doing so...
You would be surprised how some of the largest companies have ghetto websites. No offense to Ryan, but Wiresix's website is completely unusable yet they have a huge client base. I wouldn't let the lack of a proper website make the decision for you. You use rsync to backup your files.
mike2010 06-09-2010, 07:46 PM I wouldn't let the lack of a proper website make the decision for you. You use rsync to backup your files.
Even with all the documentation available on the net with RSYNC. I still don't understand if I could backup from my server to my desktop with that command. Like how would I specify to the server (using PUTTY SSH) that the backup location is on my Windows Vista desktop ?
If someone could give me an example, i'd appreciate it much.
Jacob Wall 06-09-2010, 07:54 PM Even with all the documentation available on the net with RSYNC. I still don't understand if I could backup from my server to my desktop with that command. Like how would I specify to the server (using PUTTY SSH) that the backup location is on my Windows Vista desktop ?
If someone could give me an example, i'd appreciate it much.
You could use rsync to backup from your server to your home computer, although I wouldn't recommend it. I'm not sure if you can use rsync to backup to a windows computer, someone else probably knows and will chime in on that.
edit: I'm not sure why you don't just buy rsync space from BQ or another backup company, your data is a lot safer imo there than on your home computer.
fwaggle 06-09-2010, 08:58 PM Tarsnap (http://www.tarsnap.com) seems about perfect for your situation. We still haven't completely replaced all our backups with it yet, so we're just using it for things like databases and such... not very much information at all on it (about 120MB).
I've had it for months, and it's only cost us about 30c. You'd be amazed how far your $5 pre-pay will last if you're not using too much and it only has small, infrequent changes (so don't gzip your dumps, because tarsnap will compress the data for you).
100% recommend it as a service.
netroby 06-09-2010, 09:03 PM Tarsnap (http://www.tarsnap.com) seems about perfect for your situation. We still haven't completely replaced all our backups with it yet, so we're just using it for things like databases and such... not very much information at all on it (about 120MB).
I've had it for months, and it's only cost us about 30c. You'd be amazed how far your $5 pre-pay will last if you're not using too much and it only has small, infrequent changes (so don't gzip your dumps, because tarsnap will compress the data for you).
100% recommend it as a service.
Not cheap yet, while you got GBs Files and data, how could you Affordable?
0.3$ per GB, both cost you storage and bandwidth, so dear the plan was !!
david3 06-09-2010, 09:27 PM I use rsync to backup to my home computer (windows) using cygwin. The only issue I've found is that it's not able to deal with duplicate files where one file is in uppercase, and the other lowercase, like "FILENAME", "FileName". NTFS doesn't allow that, so I had to find and exclude some problematic directories.
fwaggle 06-09-2010, 09:32 PM Not cheap yet, while you got GBs Files and data, how could you Affordable?
0.3$ per GB, both cost you storage and bandwidth, so dear the plan was !!
I think I understand what you're saying - but OP said they have about a GB of data to back up. If you're backing up gobs of information (and the S3 bitbucket and the crypto behind tarsnap is no longer so interesting), sure, there are cheaper ways to do it.
But at ~1GB of constant storage, even if you're re-uploading almost 1GB of changes over the course of a month, is still only 60c a month. If your changes are much smaller, you save even more. I don't think you can find 1GB remote rsync storage for 60c/month and if you could, would you really rely on it?
david3 06-09-2010, 09:38 PM Even with all the documentation available on the net with RSYNC. I still don't understand if I could backup from my server to my desktop with that command. Like how would I specify to the server (using PUTTY SSH) that the backup location is on my Windows Vista desktop ?
If someone could give me an example, i'd appreciate it much.
I use something like this, run from my home computer that I'm backing up TO:
rsync -avz --delete --stats --progress \
--exclude=/boot \
--exclude=/dev \
--exclude=/lost+found \
{repeat exclude lines as needed}
root@{server_ip}:/ /cygdrive/backup/
You need to be careful, because if you get the source and target mixed up you could end up overwriting/deleting files on the server.
Putty SSH doesn't include rsync, so you'd need to use cygwin or something similar that has an rsync utility.
vantage255 06-09-2010, 11:34 PM I am a user of xzbackup (http://xzbackup.com). They have been good to me and are located locally to me in Florida. They do a good job and I have been happy with them for the last 2 years or so.
James
Richard-BCS 06-10-2010, 03:31 AM It's not impossible to rsync data over to your home computer but I wouldn't recommend it. Automating rsync backups to your home computer would be a pain since your computer would need to be turned on at that time. I would recommend an backup service provider as well. If you think its expensive, it's certainly not.
Moved > Specialty Hosting and Markets.
portalgod 06-10-2010, 04:28 AM +1 scheduled rsync backup.
I've been with Webwidehosting for about 3 years now. I have their VBS184 package. It's a 100Mhz/100MB 80GB VPS. I think in the 3 years I've been with them there's only been 2 outages. 1 was a network issue for a couple hours, recently a failed RAID card. With the failed RAID card, they moved all the VBS to a different node the next day. I'm very happy with their service and will continue to use them for my backups.
I use DeltaCopy on my windows boxen to do scheduled rsync backups to the VBS. I have debian minimal + rsyncd on it.
I did use BQBackup for about a year before that. Webwidehosting turned out to be roughly half the price, but I had to manage the VPS myself. BQBackup just plan works!
With such a small amount of data, snag a cheap vps from http://www.lowendbox.com, setup an rsync server, use DeltaCopy and away you go!
Not very secure, but once you get the debian minimal install done:
1) apt-get update && apt-get install rsync
2) vi /etc/rsyncd.conf
3) Add this, save, and exit:
[backup]
path = /home/rsyncbackup
read only = no
list = yes
4) In the file /etc/default/rsync replace a line RSYNC_ENABLE=false with RSYNC_ENABLE=true
5) mkdir /home/rsyncbackup
6) chmod 777 /home/rsyncbackup
7) /etc/init.d/rsync restart
Then configure DeltaCopy and run it!
bqinternet 06-10-2010, 07:30 PM It looks like a site that was put together in less than 5 minutes..
Hey now, it took us at least 10! :D
We don't really use our website as a sales vehicle, since the vast majority of our customers come from word of mouth. It would be nice to spruce it up at some point.
huckyboy 06-16-2010, 09:54 AM With such a small amount of data, snag a cheap vps from http://www.lowendbox.com, setup an rsync server, use DeltaCopy and away you go!
I also contemplated on this thought once. Using a budget vps worth $5-$10 and use it for my backups. But since these are from budget hosts, who will guarantee that my 'backup' will always be there, especially when i need it? since its a vps, the rule of thumb of always keeping a backup still applies, right? so we have to backup our backups... that's when i just threw away the idea :stickout:
so i guess what im trying to say is, getting a cheap vps for the purpose of backups is not always a good idea. using a backup service from a backups provider is still the way to go since they are obliged(?) to guarantee that our data will always be there when we need it most.
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