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troboy
05-02-2010, 04:44 AM
Hi
I am beginner in cloud computing and my question is silly for few people.
Is it something like the following concept ?
2 or more computers / servers are connected oner network to each other so that it creates a virtual environment in which elements like RAM, HDDs, Processor cores are combined together.

I want to do something with my computers which are not in use, they are just sitting on desk.

Thanks

HostColor
05-02-2010, 04:58 AM
When you connect a few computers into a system this is cluster. To have a cloud you need a software platform which features high availability, scalability and probably load-balancing. I would suggest you to explore the cluster standards available on the market and to think of how to further automating a computer cluster.

troboy
05-02-2010, 05:16 AM
So exactly what I have to do ?
Ubuntu has released its version 10 having facility of cloud computing (http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/private-steps)
Can I make use of it ?
How to connect servers in such a way that they share their RAM, HDD etc ?

markhard
05-02-2010, 05:26 AM
interesting.. does the private cloud in ubuntu 10 comes for free/as open source?

markhard
05-02-2010, 05:33 AM
nevermind my last post, i found it here: http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/management

bhavicp
05-04-2010, 06:03 PM
Interesting indeed. Having a look now. Looks cool!

PaulM
05-07-2010, 11:39 AM
I presume this has now put cloud comuputing in the hands of everyone willing to do so?

BH-Greg
05-09-2010, 04:25 PM
Cloud Computing is pretty interesting. I would like to make all computers in my house into a cloud. I'm going to look into doing this is there a special software I need to use or a os?

troboy
05-11-2010, 10:50 AM
Hello everybody have a look
http://www.openqrm.com/

http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/private-steps
Look @ step 5


Well, is there any way so that we can create cloud under CentOS ?

PPOwens
05-11-2010, 11:25 AM
The ubuntu setup looks nice, i might even give it a try

MikeTrike
05-11-2010, 11:45 AM
I've found something new to play with. :P

troboy
05-12-2010, 12:48 AM
But Still I am confused.
In which order or how we have to connect servers with each others ?
Is it just like a normal network ? Like Star topology with a switch ?
Thats the core of my question

obriensh
05-23-2010, 04:32 PM
I think Xen has some sort of cloud system as well: xen.org/products/cloudxen.html

Katatonic
05-23-2010, 11:26 PM
I'd suggest taking a look at OpenQRM:
http://www.openqrm.com/?q=node/150

You can consistently add plug-ins on the fly and it suports KVM/vmWare/Xen.

TBradley
05-24-2010, 04:16 AM
Also, stormondemand has a deplorable cloud solution that is very handy. I do not know if it is really what you are looking for, but it does seem to do the job.

ninjamarketer
05-24-2010, 04:03 PM
When you connect a few computers into a system this is cluster. To have a cloud you need a software platform which features high availability, scalability and probably load-balancing. I would suggest you to explore the cluster standards available on the market and to think of how to further automating a computer cluster.

Yes. You need solution like VMware that will sit on your computer cluster. The VMware allows you to convert your hardware into a cloud environment. The VMware creates virtual machines sitting on your hardware and they can be switched on and off as required. So, technically speaking you can convert two machines into 6 by have VMware module.

Additionally, private cloud is more secure than the regular cloud because you have cloud like environment on your own secure servers.

Hope that helps.
Sam

adidasrta
05-24-2010, 04:50 PM
Look into the Hyper-V clustering. It works extremely well.

HostColor
05-24-2010, 05:06 PM
Yes. You need solution like VMware that will sit on your computer cluster. The VMware allows you to convert your hardware into a cloud environment. The VMware creates virtual machines sitting on your hardware and they can be switched on and off as required. So, technically speaking you can convert two machines into 6 by have VMware module.

Additionally, private cloud is more secure than the regular cloud because you have cloud like environment on your own secure servers.

Hope that helps.
Sam

VMware is only an option. although I do not question their cloud solutions there are many other cloud technologies that are more affordable for web hosts. I do not understand this - "Additionally, private cloud is more secure than the regular cloud because you have cloud like environment on your own secure servers." - and I think that it is not true. In theory private cloud should be more secure because it would be closed for an outside world, but this is not a question of technology.

nebula99
05-24-2010, 07:03 PM
Also, stormondemand has a deplorable cloud solution that is very handy. I do not know if it is really what you are looking for, but it does seem to do the job.

I think you meant "deployable". Deplorable implies something entirely different. :D

- El Capitan

ninjamarketer
05-24-2010, 07:07 PM
VMware is only an option. although I do not question their cloud solutions there are many other cloud technologies that are more affordable for web hosts. I do not understand this - "Additionally, private cloud is more secure than the regular cloud because you have cloud like environment on your own secure servers." - and I think that it is not true. In theory private cloud should be more secure because it would be closed for an outside world, but this is not a question of technology.

That's what I meant - Private cloud is more secure than the regular public cloud.

Agreed. VMware is one of the options out there.

Katatonic
05-24-2010, 10:03 PM
Additionally, private cloud is more secure than the regular cloud because you have cloud like environment on your own secure servers.

It depends on the situation.

You're private cloud might not have the additional resources to allow you to scale as well a you liked etc.

There's nothing wrong outsourcing cloud infrastructure to others given the circumstances, mainly budget and performance.