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campolar 04-29-2010, 04:17 AM Hi. I usually notice old threads which are brought up again. Usually by newbie members.
Example: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=851089
The member who brought that up has only 3 posts.
So my suggestion is restrict bringing up old posts according to the user's post count:
Don't allow users with less than 25 posts to bring up a thread which had its last reply 3+ months back.
Don't allow users with less than 50 posts to bring up a thread which had its last reply 6+ months back.
Don't allow users with less than 100 posts to bring up a thread which had its last reply 1+ year back.
Hope this is useful :)
~ campolar
anon-e-mouse 04-29-2010, 04:58 AM If you see old threads bumped, please report them We can "unbump" them if need be.
Every member, whether they are new or old, sees a warning "This thread is more than x (x= anything over 90) days old. It is very likely that it does not need any further discussion and thus bumping it serves no purpose. If you still feel it is necessary to make a new reply, you can do so by ticking the box below. Alternatively, you can search for newer threads that contain the same topic, or start a new thread (preferred)."
Let us leave this to the end user.
Outlaw Web Master 04-29-2010, 11:44 AM i agree with biju on this one.
owm
plumsauce 04-29-2010, 01:14 PM I vote for auto locking any thread 30 days after the last post.
If no activity has taken place in that time, the topic has pretty well run its course.
If need be, someone can always start a new thread and link to the old.
MikeTrike 04-29-2010, 01:25 PM Agreed, dead threads should auto lock after XX amount of days or something. They should only serve as archival information. I've seen a few lately that have been 1 2 and 3 years old brought back to life! JEEBUS ITS SILLY! That and its completely useless continuations on old threads, they bring nothing to the table 99% of the time.
energizedit 04-29-2010, 01:59 PM I think the auto lock would work best too. Is that an option with this forum software?
JohnJ 04-29-2010, 04:00 PM I vote for auto locking any thread 30 days after the last post.
If no activity has taken place in that time, the topic has pretty well run its course.
If need be, someone can always start a new thread and link to the old.
They don't need to be locked, IMO. Just don't post on them and it will be fine. If you can't read the warning then you shouldn't be posting anyhow.
SenseiSteve 04-29-2010, 04:34 PM As a community, we need to help WHT by reporting obvious bumps in threads. I've seen more than usual lately as well.
anon-e-mouse 04-29-2010, 05:59 PM As a community, we need to help WHT by reporting obvious bumps in threads. I've seen more than usual lately as well.
Many do get reported and we thank those who report them. The moderators don't have time to read all posts, so if you see them, hit the report button. That way, you should see less of them :angel:
The Dude 04-29-2010, 06:29 PM Let us leave this to the end user.I agree.... Im sick of idiots who complain about OLDER THREADS APPEARING!!
Who cares!!!!!!!!!!! -- IF I SEE A THREAD I LIKE AND THE CONTENT IS STILL VALID,I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO REPLY TO IT!! (I am very careful what i reply to (The link has to be valid still and there can be NO UNFORMATTED TEXT (Either of which causes me to just repost it instead of reply))
GET OVER IT!!!!!! -- ST0P TRYING TO DENY THE PAST..... I HAVE FOUND MANY GOOD THREADS ON DIFFERENT SITES WITH REPLIES FROM WAY BACK!! -- NOTHING WRONG WITH IT AND IM SICK OF PPL GIVING THE STAFF A HARD TIME ABOUT IT! (Could make it harder for my innocently replying of a good thread i like)
This is one of the OLDEST THREADS i have ever replied to since being online!
http://landofthelost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2129
No invalid links/unformatted text in that thread so it was WIDE OPEN to reply to :)
Please start worrying about stuff that matters instead of making it harder for us who dont mind the past :)
Merci Beaucoup :)
MikeTrike 04-29-2010, 06:59 PM I agree.... Im sick of idiots who complain about OLDER THREADS APPEARING!!
Who cares!!!!!!!!!!! -- IF I SEE A THREAD I LIKE AND THE CONTENT IS STILL VALID,I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO REPLY TO IT!! (I am very careful what i reply to (The link has to be valid still and there can be NO UNFORMATTED TEXT (Either of which causes me to just repost it instead of reply))
GET OVER IT!!!!!! -- ST0P TRYING TO DENY THE PAST..... I HAVE FOUND MANY GOOD THREADS ON DIFFERENT SITES WITH REPLIES FROM WAY BACK!! -- NOTHING WRONG WITH IT AND IM SICK OF PPL GIVING THE STAFF A HARD TIME ABOUT IT! (Could make it harder for my innocently replying of a good thread i like)
This is one of the OLDEST THREADS i have ever replied to since being online!
http://landofthelost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2129
No invalid links/unformatted text in that thread so it was WIDE OPEN to reply to :)
Please start worrying about stuff that matters instead of making it harder for us who dont mind the past :)
Merci Beaucoup :)
That's all fine and dandy. If people would post something USEFUL!!! Instead of crap like "oh thats nice" or "i agree with you on this one."
Those are the reasons that It's becoming annoying. It has been happening more and more frequently as well. Not just here and there, but WTF EVERYWHERE!
My 2 cents
plumsauce 04-30-2010, 01:41 AM They don't need to be locked, IMO. Just don't post on them and it will be fine. If you can't read the warning then you shouldn't be posting anyhow.
Excuse me? Did you miss the intent of my suggestion? *I* can read the warning fine. Especially as it requires actively checking the box to continue the post.
I am one of those who are tired of seeing posts resurrected from the dead by *others*.
There are three common sources of thread revival:
1. someone has an axe to grind, so they do a search on the company name and revive every thread that ever existed about that company with their tale of woe. Nothing like having a 2 year old thread revived in the outages forum.
2. someone registers and needs post count to post an ad, so they poke away at old threads with a bunch of one-liner "me too" posts
3. someone registers and wants to pump a particular product, again, the old threads.
plumsauce 04-30-2010, 01:47 AM Who cares!!!!!!!!!!! -- IF I SEE A THREAD I LIKE AND THE CONTENT IS STILL VALID,I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO REPLY TO IT!! (I am very careful what i reply to (The link has to be valid still and there can be NO UNFORMATTED TEXT (Either of which causes me to just repost it instead of reply))
Merci Beaucoup :)
Then start a *new* thread referencing the old one. Of course, a *new* thread involves a creating a title, and some content that is more than a partial sentence.
Clicking on an old thread because the title seemed interesting only to find out that it is overgrown with moss is extremely annoying.
ESPECIALLY IN THE OUTAGES FORUM!!!
Yes, I know about hovering the mouse pointer over the title to see a fragment of the first post. And use it religiously exactly because of long dead threads.
De rien.
campolar 04-30-2010, 02:59 PM If you see old threads bumped, please report them We can "unbump" them if need be.
Sure i can do that. But wouldn't it be odd to unbump a topic which was a year old. Got bumped, and got about 30 more posts and then someone realizes the OP had his/her post a year ago?
anon-e-mouse 04-30-2010, 06:07 PM Sure i can do that. But wouldn't it be odd to unbump a topic which was a year old. Got bumped, and got about 30 more posts and then someone realizes the OP had his/her post a year ago?
The thread is likely to be reported way before it reaches 30 posts. If the discussion is about the same provider, we would likely split it off to a new thread, thus unbumping the old one :)
Outlaw Web Master 04-30-2010, 07:30 PM I actually think it's quite funny when someone unknowingly bumps an ancient thread....then others start heckling them for doing it.
owm
techjr 04-30-2010, 09:36 PM Like this? http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?p=6775800#post6775800
:)
campolar 05-01-2010, 04:23 AM The thread is likely to be reported way before it reaches 30 posts. If the discussion is about the same provider, we would likely split it off to a new thread, thus unbumping the old one :)
That makes sense. Will do that from now onwards :)
tickedon 05-01-2010, 04:34 PM Have to say, I do quite like the idea of a post count limit before you can bump older threads. Even if it's 10-25 posts, I think it could cut down some of the work. I do tend to report the threads, and, without statistics it feels like most of the time it is someone who is new to WHT.
madlymasterful2018 05-02-2010, 07:06 AM I would suggest some more thing on this. See there are many more experts in the World who might not have joined this forum.
So bumping old threads by these experts, who will be obviously new in this forum, can get some really good information to this forum community. So there must be restriction but some exceptions as well.
What does moderators say on this??
campolar 05-02-2010, 07:40 AM I would suggest some more thing on this. See there are many more experts in the World who might not have joined this forum.
So bumping old threads by these experts, who will be obviously new in this forum, can get some really good information to this forum community. So there must be restriction but some exceptions as well.
What does moderators say on this??
Or those experts could make a new thread? :eek:
That's all fine and dandy. If people would post something USEFUL!!! Instead of crap like "oh thats nice" or "i agree with you on this one."
Those are the reasons that It's becoming annoying. It has been happening more and more frequently as well. Not just here and there, but WTF EVERYWHERE!
My 2 cents
What's wrong in these replies. The poster might have found it as helpful and unless or otherwise he is trying to spam something. :)
Have to say, I do quite like the idea of a post count limit before you can bump older threads. Even if it's 10-25 posts, I think it could cut down some of the work. I do tend to report the threads, and, without statistics it feels like most of the time it is someone who is new to WHT.
This is wrong! What do you want WHT to be a fully restricted security arena for the newcomers.
BoxIntenseVincent 05-07-2010, 01:14 PM I think some newcomers are also come in purpose (not solely to spam the forum), like learning something new or getting invited by their friend. Maybe they're trying to search on some discussion they do (or trying to) understand and getting themselves involved with. So IMO, it's not really wise to limitate their curiosity.
anon-e-mouse 05-07-2010, 05:12 PM or otherwise he is trying to spam something. :)
That's usually the case. They are usually in a hurry to post a self promotional URL. Beats me why they can't just participate as they have 180 seconds between posts :D
plumsauce 05-07-2010, 05:21 PM This is wrong! What do you want WHT to be a fully restricted security arena for the newcomers.
No, just a place with less fluff/spam and a place where clicking on a post isn't a complete waste of time.
WireNine 05-08-2010, 02:05 PM I would have to agree with @The Dude on this one. It's ridiculous to be restricted from bumping old threads. On one hand you stop users from bumping old threads, and on the other you tell them to use the search option when they start a topic about something that's already been discussed.
linux-tech 05-08-2010, 02:32 PM Personally, I'm all for closing old threads that haven't had replies in say 3-6 months anyways. If it's been that long, there REALLY is no need to reply to the thread.
Outlaw Web Master 05-08-2010, 02:40 PM It's ridiculous to be restricted from bumping old threads.
when i used to bump old 9/11 threads, Aussie Bob used to squeal like a bitch, it was so funny. :D
owm
SoftWareRevue 05-10-2010, 12:02 PM It's a conundrum for sure. :wht:
Personally, I like everything in one spot. I'm all for never locking threads simply because they're too old.
But I'd rather do what's best for the community. And, so far, the community is more for no bUmPaGe.
:think: Maybe we need a poll. :think:
MikeTrike 05-10-2010, 12:30 PM A poll indeed. :think:
MikeTrike 05-12-2010, 02:28 PM Seriously: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=710490
plumsauce 05-12-2010, 04:55 PM For an example of why bumping old threads is bad:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=933509
The thread started 2010-03-14, changes topic on 2010-03-23, changes topic again on 2010-04-07, becomes network related on 2010-04-08, dribbles through to 2010-05-03, changes topic again to payment problems, and on 2010-05-09 becomes a full blown, "OMG they're moving the servers down the west coast by slow boat to China and everything has been down for hours, then days".
Confusing? I think so.
anon-e-mouse 05-12-2010, 05:12 PM Seriously:
Seriously! Why didn't you just report it? More moderators will receive a report than those that are subscribed to this thread.
plumsauce 05-12-2010, 05:48 PM Seriously! Why didn't you just report it? More moderators will receive a report than those that are subscribed to this thread.
I see it got cleaned up, whatever it was.
But maybe Mike just wanted to post a concrete example for some of those who are anxious to continue letting threads just meander endlessly through history.
At least this thread is staying completely on topic :D
Outlaw Web Master 05-12-2010, 06:53 PM This is wrong! What do you want WHT to be a fully restricted security arena for the newcomers.
That's impossible mate...Tickedon's Scottish and we are never wrong.
owm
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