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OJI
12-06-2002, 09:11 AM
Ok,
I have had a lot of experience when it comes to reselling - but now we want our own servers i am in the lurch. Could you guys gimmie some pointers about the whole network, tier level, ip addressing blah blah aspects of setting up your own dedicated server.

So - I have my rack - and my lovely 4U server sitting in a UK datacenter. Now - i want to get it connected up to the WWW

The data center gives me a list of service providers that have a PoP here. So i give one a call and ask for some connection prices. Then they start to ask me about my gateway setups :bawling: if I have any IP addressing arranged :confused: and something about IP transitting - so I quickly say erm... yeah - and procede to run from the call.

I know - i awas a little nieve - but all i want to do is connect this thing up to the WWW with say a little 10Mb connection.

Please help :rolleyes:

The Laughing Cow
12-06-2002, 11:42 AM
I'd of thought you'd need a network guy to get your router/switch all configured up. Which DC did you choose in the UK?

KDAWebServices
12-06-2002, 12:14 PM
If you're in Redbus then I'd recommend you give the nice people Terry works for a ring :)

OJI
12-06-2002, 12:24 PM
Well - I havent chosen a data center yet - we will probabally go with Telecity Manchester.

But I would still like some of the stuff above explained for me :?

wakkow
12-06-2002, 12:26 PM
I'd think a good DC sales person would help you through all that.. But I've never been in that situation, so I can't say for sure..,

The Laughing Cow
12-06-2002, 12:30 PM
I'd advise going for a DC local to where you live - i'm guessing your up north(ish)?

The DC must be able to recommend some people to either put your Rack with (in their suite maybe), or who can connect you up.

With IP transits, addressing et al, you should get a network engineer onboard your staff to maintain it all, as well as set it up in the first place.

My suggestion is colocate your server/rack (if you can) with a provider inside the DC of your choice.

OJI
12-06-2002, 12:54 PM
Thanks cow - ill give them a call.

So i suppose if I was to go colo with a provider in the DC of my choice - they would be sorting out the routing - ip address ect ect - and I could just stick my box up and order an IP address or two from them.

Whereas if I was to just buy a rack from the DC and then get in touch with one of the ISPs I would have to do all of that myself. ?

The Laughing Cow
12-06-2002, 02:06 PM
If you colo a box, you'll send it to them I guess (or they pick up) and will plug you up, assign you some IP's etc.

You should be able to colo a rack i'd guess inside someone's suite. Other than that they should set you all up.

ServerCorps
12-06-2002, 05:14 PM
I wouldn't go Carrier Neutral to start off with. Go with a colo provider who will hand you an ethernet cable and a sticky-note with your ip's on it.
:)

OJI
12-06-2002, 05:19 PM
^^ think that is what I will do.

:stickout:

BenDoherty
12-06-2002, 07:05 PM
If you choose london, then go with the company terry works for. Had many happy months with them.

Regards,
Ben

dynamicnet
12-07-2002, 11:25 AM
Greetings:

There are some co-location providers who would have taken care of some or many of those issues for you.

However, it sounds like you are with a pure co-location provider that just providers power, ping, and pipe.

Therefore, I would recommend checkinig if you need a router. If you do, you will most likely need to learn the command language of the router (CISCO is IOS).

Red Hat Linux Networking and System Administration might be a good book for you to read up on.

See http://www.bookpool.com/.x/4fmzgd9f6i/sm/076453632X for the description.

Thank you.

OJI
12-07-2002, 12:04 PM
thanks there ^^ - i am reading up on TCP/IP before I delve into my Linux Network Admin book..

Thanks

James[UH]
12-07-2002, 12:31 PM
Choose Telehouse. Our servers are there :p

Usually you get the connection/bandwidth and rackspace off the ISP.

Best option for you would most probably be per U. Cost around £10-50 per U. Depending on your cost limits, a quota per month will be cheaper, as long as you want less than 200gb. Bandwidth ehre in the UK is expensive, espically for international connections, so a b/w limits is a good burstable option.

Were currently in Telehouse Docklands London, great place to be.

If your interested in colo then speak to these guys: www.woaf.net - Our ISP who were with :p

The Laughing Cow
12-07-2002, 12:43 PM
You can get bandwidth as cheap as the US if you know the right places and people.

James[UH]
12-07-2002, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by The Laughing Cow
You can get bandwidth as cheap as the US if you know the right places and people.

indeed you can, UK b/w is cheap, but its international b/w thats costs.