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Rad1W
12-05-2002, 09:12 PM
Some of you may have thought of this before. I was just looking at a number of host and you know, I just think some web host just doesn't know how to make up a plan. They give a high amount of web space but VERY little bandwidth. Like for example, "100MB of web space and only 2 GB of bandwidth or sometimes even less bandwidth" or "200MB of webspace and only 3GB of Bandwidth or sometimes less".

Well, if you were to ask me, I would say that the appropriate number of bandwidth for a 100MB plan should be at least 4 or 5GB.

Well thats all I wanna say. Can some people agree with me?LOL

2Grumpy
12-05-2002, 09:14 PM
Well as a host, I find I'd much rather be generous with disk space as with bandwidth.

I don't pay too much for 80G of space and I only buy it once, but bandwidth heck I gotta pay for that every month so if I'm gonna be generous, it'll be with disk space.

phpcoder
12-05-2002, 09:16 PM
Sometimes bandwidth can cost almost 3-5.00/GB so your smallest plan would then be like 10.00 or so.

Choppy
12-05-2002, 09:20 PM
No!

I dont think you are absolutly right... since many host over sell a little you will find alot are actually giving you exactly the amount of bandwidth you bought with your account. Which is a good thing because if you used the over sold amount you might get warned terminated etc. This is the case if your host is a reseller mostly.

But even though you give a customer 100 megs doesnt mean that every single visitor is going to search the whole 100 megs of your website. Unless you are lame and running software download etc. If you are using it for FTP download or a leach site the 2 gigs would not be enough obviously.

Average customer that buys 100meg plan from us uses 20 megs and 1 gig bandwidth.

People like to feel that they wont run out of space and bandwidth. Some newbies with personal sites look at space more than bandwidth.

I hope this makes a bit of sense since i am packing my bags to evacuate the building :)

Kind regards
Phillip

JonL
12-05-2002, 09:21 PM
startran,

It depends on companys' business plans as well as resources.

ljprevo
12-05-2002, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by startran
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Well, if you were to ask me, I would say that the appropriate number of bandwidth for a 100MB plan should be at least 4 or 5MB.

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4 to 5 MB (MEG) of transfer? Is it me or wouldn't it take 20 months to load 100 meg @ 5 meg transfer a month?

:eek:

Or were you saying gig?

Rad1W
12-05-2002, 09:25 PM
Sorry, it was suppost to 4-5GB. I corrected my mistake.

UH-Matt
12-05-2002, 09:31 PM
Depends on the host.. there is nothing wrong with the plan you are making fun of - If you emailed a host im sure 90% of us would make up custom plans for people who required more of one thing or another.

AceWeb
12-05-2002, 09:59 PM
No. For many small-average size 100MB of web space and 2 Gig's of bandwidth is plenty.

chrisb
12-06-2002, 07:27 AM
I TOTALLY agree with you, and think that often when viewing different hosts' plans. I think 100 megs of space should offer more than 2-3 gigs of bandwidth. To me, reasonable plans would go something like this:

50 megs diskspace, 3 gigs transfer; 100 megs diskspace, 5 gigs transfer;
200 megs diskpace, 10 gigs transfer

OJI
12-06-2002, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by chrisb
reasonable plans would go something like this:

50 megs diskspace, 3 gigs transfer; 100 megs diskspace, 5 gigs transfer;
200 megs diskpace, 10 gigs transfer
^^ but it wont cost much more for the host to then offer 100 megs diskspace, 3 gigs transfer; 150 megs diskspace, 5 gigs transfer;
250 megs diskpace, 10 gigs transfer.

I mean - what is your point? you would rather have 50 megs diskspace, 3 gigs transfer - as opposed to 100 megs diskspace, 3 gigs transfer which the providor could probally afford to sell to you for $0.5 more a month

vito
12-06-2002, 09:04 AM
I don't have a large customer base, but from what I see with my customers, 100 MB of space and 2 GB bw is a very comfortable ratio, and very few of my customers ever get to 1/2 GB of bw every month. Perhaps because most of my accounts are small local businesses who merely want Internet prescence and don't get alot of traffic. I kinda like it that way... :D

Originally posted by startran
Well, if you were to ask me, I would say that the appropriate number of bandwidth for a 100MB plan should be at least 4 or 5GB.

Well perhaps then web hosts that offer reseller plans should rethink how they package their plans. For instance, a typical reseller plan could be 2.5 GB of disk space and 45 GB of bandwidth. A reseller will look at that and if he does not intend to oversell, he will attempt to divide it up equally to see how many customers he can safely fit into the plan.

2.5 GB disc space divided by 25 = 100 MB per customer
45 GB bandwidth divided by 25 = 1.8 GB per customer

So unless a reseller asks for a custom reseller plan that has additional bw, how is he supposed to feel comfortable offering 4-5 GB bw for every 100 MB disk space?

Vito

chrisb
12-06-2002, 03:28 PM
While I see the host's side of this, I also see the customer's side. I agree that most people on a 50 or 100 meg diskspace acct probably use less than 1 or 2 gigs a month, but that's not the point. Customers want to feel comfortable, and know that they have plenty of bandwidth so they want have to worry about overages.

Whether they use that much transfer is not important, they want it available just in case. Same principle with a cell phone; many pay for 1000 minutes a month, and rarely use half of that.

For example, all things being equal, if a customer has a choice between a 100meg/3 gig acct and a 100meg/5gig acct, they are going to choose the one with the most transfer.

Also, when a host offers low transfer, it appears that they are trying to make extra money off of transfer and hope you will go over. This is often the case when you see a host offering something like a 100 megs diskspace and 2 gigs transfer, and $5 or more per gig for overages.

vito
12-06-2002, 03:35 PM
I agree with you 100%, Chris. I'm just not sure how a reseller with a reseller plan, the way they're offered (in general) can feel comfortable selling plans with more bw without feeling "exposed" to the risk of going over quota. Don't you think then that reseller plans in general are poorly configured?

Vito

chrisb
12-06-2002, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by vito
I agree with you 100%, Chris. I'm just not sure how a reseller with a reseller plan, the way they're offered (in general) can feel comfortable selling plans with more bw without feeling "exposed" to the risk of going over quota. Don't you think then that reseller plans in general are poorly configured?

Vito

Yes I do. I often see reseller plans offering 1000 megs of diskspace and 10 gigs of bandwidth. Now, out of that, you could only sell TWO 100-meg/5gig transfer accounts if you didn't want to oversell.

Of course, the flip side is that if hosts didn't oversell shared and resellers accts, their plans would be much more expensive.