In the recent few days, I've seen so so so many people whom i know signed up with yahoo hosting and before that they had no clue how to get hosted etc.

Lets analyze this behavior of newbies getting into yahoo, how can it effect others in the Web hosting business ? good effects and bad effects and details please

Let's plenty of business to go around. :)

Yahoo is pretty big competitor. It will get lots of people, and lots of businesses will struggle.

Originally posted by :: paVel ::
Yahoo is pretty big competitor. It will get lots of people, and lots of businesses will struggle.

Not to toot any of my own horns or anything, but I know for a fact that a decision has come between choosing Yahoo and the service I provide on at least one occaision, and Yahoo lost. Let's not throw in any towels or anything.

Originally posted by rbuecker


Not to toot any of my own horns or anything, but I know for a fact that a decision has come between choosing Yahoo and the service I provide on at least one occaision, and Yahoo lost. Let's not throw in any towels or anything.

Ye... but people new to hosting, dont know anything about it. So they will choose Yahoo, because its big and gives them what they want(web site on the NET)...

I think this is good in a way because people will be more aware on WHAT is webhosting and more details about it. once they get used to yahoo, they might also hear about other companies and then eventually find out about other good companies n stuff.. so this is good in a way to spread awareness among people on how to get urself online.. since i swear many people didn't even know about it and just got an account even though they'r not using it properly or using it at all.

it might also hurt since they'r taking all the business direct from most of the people who visit yahoo. it will be a struggle for other hosting companies. lets see how they come across it. yahoo can play cheap tactics as to block other hosting companies emails n stuff ( we heard about the verisign stuff before yahoo was blocking hteir domain name transfer emails or somethin ) .. people might trust yahoo more than other newly created websites n stuff.. many factors can hurt :(

corperate companies are always way more expencive. I think, yeah, they will get the new webmasters for a while but those webmasters will soon learn that they need a better service.

Also most coperate companies are not intouch with the customer's needs, and a smaller hosting company usually provides much better one-to-one customer service.

11.95 per month with:

no php/mysql,
no logs,
no backups.

Yahoo is expanding Webhosting market. Competition is always good in business. More and more people are getting aware of webhosting. But yahoo can never beat WHT offers...
:D:D:D:D

I've never really used yahoo as a search engin or anything. I got an invitation to join one of the groups, (I thought it was a link exchange) and decided to try it, but didn't go through with it. They wanted me to get a Yahoo!ID and that included an e-mail-account and so on. I didn't want that at all. I'm sure yahoo uses some of their services to get customers to sign up for payed hosting. It's easy to do that when yahoo bought geocities and all those free websites who wants something extra now.

Seems expensive to me though, I know they don't outline exactly in specifics what you get but for 50 bucks a month i would think its unlimited transfer since it isn't listed when you go to pricing.

are they using some another company or selling hosting services directly?

Originally posted by apollo
are they using some another company or selling hosting services directly?

well i dont know but the question is how will they break the business of an average joe hosting company.

Originally posted by AmericanD


well i dont know but the question is how will they break the business of an average joe hosting company.

answer:

They won't. This business is a huge market consisting of many facets. Chances are Joe will mess up his little average hosting company without Yahoo having anything to do with it.

Originally posted by apollo
are they using some another company or selling hosting services directly? Some time ago they bought http://www.simplenet.com. I am under the impression (I don't know if this is true or not) that their hosting department is like a sub division; Yahoo handles the administrative tasks (billing, etc.) and the old Simplenet people run the IP part of the operation.

As of my last visit to yahoo's home page, there were 248 links, only 2 seem to go directly to their webhosting.

Their lowest personal webhost offer is about $60/yr, with a setup fee and 25M,5gig bw. No domain name required. This implies the customer base is primarily those who have no paid hosting experence -- perhaps those who have used their free account or have had no web experience at all.

This niche, although perhaps rather large, IMO, isn't particularly inclined to open a paid web account elsewhere anyway. Or least not quite yet.

My first hosting experience was with Yahoo. For a first time newbie it's not too bad. After learning my way throught the ins and outs of having a site I moved to another provider. At the time they didn't offer much more than webspace. Geocities without the ads. Service was the big drawback. I like being able to submit a support ticket and have someone with English as a first language respond. A few of my Yahoo replies were hard to read.

Now that I have a year with other hosts behind me, I wouldn't go back.

There will always be a market for the small hosts who provide a quality service.

Anyone ever hosted with Simplenet.com before it was acquired by Yahoo? I did. Ah the good old days.

I was with Simplenet for 3 years before Yahell bought it out.


These days SBC's DSL has partnered with Yahoo and with all the spam mail (service notices) telling people to upgrade to SBC Yahoo DSL they provide info on hosting as well.

Lamont, you beat me too it...

i was going to say that... there is nothing like getting support with a host like we are all most likely with or actually run... sometimes getting to talk to an actual person... if you have a problem with yahoo, then you are going to have to submit a support ticket and then you get an auto-responde email saying try this this and this... and if that doesnt work, reply and well send you something else useless.... not to mention, as lamont said, english!

however, i do believe that hosting with yahoo may be a little more reliable, how often do you see yahoo down? and they have to have great techs and servers?

just my .02

When I first started looking for hosting, yahoo was one I had looked into. Primarily because I didnt know too much about the whole hosting deal or about other hosting providers. After I started finding other hosts that provided more than the yahoo packages, I took the time to continue my search. Yes, yahoo is a big competitor but I was looking for a host that I was able to contact & answer my questions within resonable time. why wait 2 days,etc when most hosts now a days even have instant messaging?

just another person with their .02 :D

I'm sure that Yahoo's web hosting services will mainly attract new users, as their plans don't seem that appealing for advanced users.

Yahoo will probably be the "first host" for many people, but eventually their sites will outgrow what Yahoo provides and they'll go elsewhere.

Well, I had tons of experience with free hosts before I went paid, so I knew what I was looking for. Since I knew geocities well, I knew that yahoo was not what I was looking for. It was too expensive and it didn't offer much. I wanted something reliable, small with the sense of a community, and above all - affordable. After days of reseacrh I chose wisely

IMO yahoo hosting will attract web hosting newbie’s who know nothing about hosting. Once they get experience they'll move to another hosting company especially if it's a business site. So although you guys might loose a few complete newbie’s in a year or so you'll have them coming back into the market looking for more services (PHP, MySQL, etc.) and better pricing then yahoo can offer.

Just think of Yahoo as a nursery school. You guys don't want to host the newbies until they are pottie trained. A customer who needs constant diaper changing is not very cost efficient. You'll get them when they can walk and talk on their own.

I'm sure you would prefer it that way.

Originally posted by Lamont
Just think of Yahoo as a nursery school. You guys don't want to host the newbies until they are pottie trained.
Interesting metaphor. :eek: Personally I like the ones that need potty training, if you take the time and help them out they stay with you forever and recommend you to all their friends. In my experience it's the ones that "walk and talk on their own" that are the most nit-picky, seem to never be satisfied, and cause the most support headaches.

I look at it like Yahoo is doing us all a favor. Spread the word about web hosting. :D

plus they have the power of free advertising in their directory :) Targetting own web visitors etc....

Personally, I'm not too worried about Yahoo. If a small hosting company can't beat Yahoo on the service portion of the business...something's wrong.

Yahoo's easy to compete with. simply because they are large, slow and inept.

The real competition comes from smaller privately owned companies which are run well, like Hosting Matters, Ez2ba.com, etc.

While they (Yahoo) might grab a bit of market share at first, they won't hold it.

Yeah Larry, ez2ba.com is hard to beat only because we're really smaller, nimbler and scrappier than companies like a1webserver.com and Hosting Matters. The only reason we survive is because once in a while you let a few slide off the table onto the floor where we can pick them up.

By the way, thanks for the crumbs kind sir.

:D