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Curtis H.
12-03-2002, 11:13 AM
I was wondering what you use. Software such as DVD Copy (http://www.dvdxcopy.com) or Smart Ripper (http://www.dvd-recordable.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=12&ttitle=SmartRipper)?

What media do you use? Any suggestions?

jic
12-03-2002, 11:36 AM
none of us here would ever do anything illegal :).. Not wear a steat belt, steal DVD's etc.

ljprevo
12-03-2002, 12:17 PM
It is not illegal to make a backup of your own DVD's, CD's, Software for your own use.

Angel78
12-03-2002, 12:37 PM
In EU you are allowed to have one copy of every single song, film..etc etc so it is even backed up by law, and no i have no backup copies of my DVD's :D

okihost
12-03-2002, 12:59 PM
Has anyone used VCD's via a cd burner yet? I am DVD hunting and am interested in if anyone has used this format yet.

ljprevo
12-03-2002, 01:25 PM
I've used VCD format, only burned a few home videos because the conversion process takes a LONG TIME for a full length movie. You have to copy to mpeg2 formate then convert from that to VCD.

You also need a DVD player that is VCD capable

Curtis H.
12-03-2002, 01:59 PM
I'm finding some good information on these two forums...

VCDhelp.com (http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/index.php)

Doom9.org (http://forum.doom9.org)

Some of these guys are into it!

nocturnix123
12-03-2002, 08:10 PM
I would be interested in more information from anyone who has done this. Such as the hardware/software they use, how well it works etc.

filburt1
12-03-2002, 09:31 PM
Ripping a DVD for exact playback on your hard drive is easy, takes about half a hour automated. Converting it to a reburnable or smaller format is insanely hard and complicated. I tried it once and it took 1.5 days to convert to DivX and even then ripped the wrong audio track.

phpcoder
12-03-2002, 09:32 PM
Whats the highest dvd burner now?

My friend just got 8x burner on his new computer... I know 4x was like $299.99+ or something :confused:

Vex
12-03-2002, 09:35 PM
8x? What kind of computer was it?

phpcoder
12-03-2002, 09:37 PM
I forget the specs that he told me (Ill check tommorow)... it was something like:

P4 2.80 (2nd highest availiable)
512MB DDR Ram
120GB HD
48x CD Burner
8X DVD Burner

He said it cost about $2400.00 without the Microsoft Office stuff, without the moniter, printer, etc, etc, etc.

I was like :eek: when I heard this....

Vex
12-03-2002, 09:39 PM
Gah, tell your friend to buy me a computer!! :)

Toolz
12-03-2002, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by filburt1
Ripping a DVD for exact playback on your hard drive is easy, takes about half a hour automated. Converting it to a reburnable or smaller format is insanely hard and complicated. I tried it once and it took 1.5 days to convert to DivX and even then ripped the wrong audio track.

Filbert1: Could you tell us more about how you do this? Which software do you use. Can you copy just selected scenes?

Chicken
12-03-2002, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by nocturnix123
I would be interested in more information from anyone who has done this. Such as the hardware/software they use, how well it works etc.
this is really a whole 'nuther topic. I've recently burnt a VCD from a digital movie clip (home video). Took friggin' forever for a 5 minute video and the quality on my 32" TV wasn't exactly wonderful. On a smaller TV it might be OK, but... I suppose it is nice to be able to burn anything and play it back on the DVD player, as I only have a CD burner.

filburt1
12-03-2002, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by Toolz


Filbert1: Could you tell us more about how you do this? Which software do you use. Can you copy just selected scenes?

It's been a while but I ended up
1. copying all the files off the dvd
2. running a console-based DeCSS program on them
3. TMPEGEnc or something similar to unsuccessfully convert it to DivX.

Toolz
12-03-2002, 11:33 PM
(Sorry to continue off-topic) ...so you can't really select the scenes that accurately then? :(

Is there anything in Windows that will do this?

DanielP
12-04-2002, 12:49 AM
Its quite possible to do... but you have to rip the dvd, convert it to a video and audio stream (avi) or use something like <forgets name> which lets you edit scenes on the fly... but you've got a lot of encoding and decoding to do... and you'll need video editing software to boot..

As far as just ripping a copy to play on your pc... you'll need 4-8gb... a dvd to iso ripper and a virtual drive that will let you mount an ISO file like a drive and then any player will be able to play it.

As far as chicken and the encoding.. for slightly above VHS quality on a VCD encode @ 2500 bit rate.. should be able to fit 40mins to a CD

Curtis H.
12-04-2002, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Toolz
(Sorry to continue off-topic) ...so you can't really select the scenes that accurately then? :(

Is there anything in Windows that will do this?
You might want to look here (http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=15&sid=ecc0688e9d05dadecc1d555c51003b86). There's some "User guides" that have detail info and pics.

kawai
02-25-2003, 06:27 PM
No, you can burn MPEG2 clips on cd, since they are just a file anyway. But the problem is that you have to look for a DVD player taht support file mode, that means to say play a file on cd as a file and do not require those other files that specify the details of the file.

A lot of taiwanese and chinese DVD players does that. Ask arouond.

Originally posted by Chicken
this is really a whole 'nuther topic. I've recently burnt a VCD from a digital movie clip (home video). Took friggin' forever for a 5 minute video and the quality on my 32" TV wasn't exactly wonderful. On a smaller TV it might be OK, but... I suppose it is nice to be able to burn anything and play it back on the DVD player, as I only have a CD burner.

Chicken
02-25-2003, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by kawai
No, you can burn MPEG2 clips on cd, since they are just a file anyway. But the problem is that you have to look for a DVD player taht support file mode, that means to say play a file on cd as a file and do not require those other files that specify the details of the file.

A lot of taiwanese and chinese DVD players does that. Ask arouond.
Months later.. the topic returns :D

Are you talking about SVCDs? Or burning a similar quality to DVD MPEG2 file to a disc and just finding a unit that will simply read the MPEG2 (no DVD burner needed). I don't think my player can read these.

Mesum
02-26-2003, 02:44 AM
To rip DVDs, I think you should look into FlasKMPEG, it is free and works just fine to rip a DVD off.

kawai
05-09-2003, 01:04 AM
I'm talking about the latter. A player that reads and decodes Mpeg2 files.

Originally posted by Chicken
Months later.. the topic returns :D

Are you talking about SVCDs? Or burning a similar quality to DVD MPEG2 file to a disc and just finding a unit that will simply read the MPEG2 (no DVD burner needed). I don't think my player can read these.

kawai
05-09-2003, 01:06 AM
DVD is a storage medium. Mpeg2 is a codec. So both works independently, and thus the file mode thing on some players.

SoftWareRevue
05-09-2003, 03:06 AM
Ya'lls' some s l o w talkers. :eek2:

Chicken
05-09-2003, 03:44 PM
Heh, yeah and since then I've gotten a DVD burner. Times... they are a changin' :D

ljprevo
05-09-2003, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by Chicken
Heh, yeah and since then I've gotten a DVD burner. Times... they are a changin' :D

Same here, that is funny, even bought DVD X Copy. ;)

RSX
05-10-2003, 03:41 AM
If anyone wants a walkthrough on copying DVD's to your HD into DivX format. I will gladly help you out. Just launch me off an email at exept@pureping.net I "backup" every DVD I see ;)

Fiber
05-10-2003, 04:26 AM
Originally posted by phpcoder
I forget the specs that he told me (Ill check tommorow)... it was something like:

P4 2.80 (2nd highest availiable)
512MB DDR Ram
120GB HD
48x CD Burner
8X DVD Burner

He said it cost about $2400.00 without the Microsoft Office stuff, without the moniter, printer, etc, etc, etc.

I was like :eek: when I heard this.... I smell bull on the 8x DVD Burner.

Highest is 4x.