ToastyX
12-02-2002, 08:44 AM
If I see "their" spelled as "there" one more time, I'm going to scream! :kaioken:
![]() | View Full Version : Their ToastyX 12-02-2002, 08:44 AM If I see "their" spelled as "there" one more time, I'm going to scream! :kaioken: Darth 12-02-2002, 08:46 AM there there there there thhhhhere :D :buck: ToastyX 12-02-2002, 08:53 AM :bawling: Aussie Bob 12-02-2002, 09:43 AM Originally posted by ToastyX If I see "their" spelled as "there" one more time, I'm going to scream! :kaioken: I hear ya. :rolleyes: :D Pilgrim 12-02-2002, 09:44 AM What about wut? Wut do I mean? *sigh* 1upromo 12-02-2002, 09:45 AM What is this...?.. :confused: filburt1 12-02-2002, 09:58 AM Originally posted by ToastyX If I see "their" spelled as "there" one more time, I'm going to scream! :kaioken: I see "your" and "you're" wrong all the time (context: your set and "you're set") Chicken 12-02-2002, 10:06 AM Helpful context: Their network seems to be down. I'm thinking of getting a server there. Your site isn't up at the moment. You're going to have to spend more money per month for hosting. Your waist is getting bigger because you eat a cake every day. Don't waste your life away. michaeln 12-02-2002, 10:26 AM There car needs gas... ;) *Covers ears in anticipation of long scream...* Darth 12-02-2002, 10:34 AM Earth quake! :bawling: flitcher 12-02-2002, 01:24 PM Your wierd ;) Acroplex 12-02-2002, 03:17 PM Receive Piece Believe Theif Commonly misspelt. The Dude 12-02-2002, 03:23 PM THERE The Dude :) PS- there,there,there (hehehehe) there Phrozen 12-02-2002, 03:57 PM Originally posted by Chicken Helpful context: Their network seems to be down. I'm thinking of getting a server there. Ahhh... yes. But let's not forget about they're: They're going to upgrade the server. And now all together: They're going to upgrade their server over there. :stickout: Andyc 12-02-2002, 05:10 PM I also see people say "loose" instead of "lose" a lot. That has always bothered me more than anything. flitcher 12-02-2002, 05:21 PM Alot instead of using a lot. mahinder 12-02-2002, 05:30 PM Originally posted by ToastyX If I see "their" spelled as "there" one more time, I'm going to scream! :kaioken: many people here don't always communicate in english including me, so its usual for them to make such mistake. IGobyTerry 12-02-2002, 05:35 PM I only get annoyed by misspellings like that if I'm in school or some place where I know the people have been taught English for the past 16 years. (or for me at least) I also hate when people use the word "Got" when they should say "have." That's the biggest thing I hate. There's this one girl (she's trashy) who always says "anybody's got's some gum." It annoys the heck out of me, but for some reason I stay quiet. However on message boards I don't really mind, as I don't know if English is their 1st language. allan 12-02-2002, 06:51 PM I'd like to throw in my grammar-whine for advice and advise. Advice is a noun, advise is a verb. You ask for advice, but you advise someone on a course of action. Acroplex 12-02-2002, 07:49 PM Also, "Photoshop" is a noun and there is no verb: "I'm gonna photoshop this logo real quick" :D susannad 12-02-2002, 07:58 PM Originally posted by timechange Receive Piece Believe Theif Commonly misspelt. (nmemonic -- i before e except after c) we had such trouble here with a particularly nasty piece of work in our government .. he blatantly robbed us .. name of Peter Reith He was dubbed Reith the Thief, and the number of placards, signs, banners that had one or both words misspelt drove me round the bend Acroplex 12-02-2002, 08:10 PM Ah you found my red herring ;) Phrozen 12-02-2002, 09:08 PM Originally posted by susannad (nmemonic -- i before e except after c) ...or sounds like c. Like in seize. bear 12-02-2002, 09:47 PM Here's one that gets me every time: I should of done it. I should have done it. Drives me nuckin' futz. Phrozen 12-02-2002, 09:58 PM Originally posted by thatguy Drives me nuckin' futz. Just like the use of z in place of s does to me. :stickout: Acroplex 12-02-2002, 10:02 PM lets not forget the complete lack of capitalization punctuation and i believe also the usage of capital i letter to signify the first person and instead continuing like a waterfall in a single sentence that does not seem to stop as if the person typing this had a severe depravation of retalin and their thoughts were flowing like madness typing typing typing as if the world would come to an end if that happened Phrozen 12-02-2002, 10:07 PM No, please, Timechange. That post was reminiscent of Ned's. :eek: Acroplex 12-02-2002, 10:10 PM :D What happened to that lost soul? Koutaru 12-02-2002, 10:10 PM :o sometimes im too lazy to use any capitalization or punctuation. There. Happy? :D IGobyTerry 12-02-2002, 10:13 PM Ned got mad at us and left. I made a bet with someone that he'd comeback, so far I'm losing. NED COME BACK NOW! adam 12-02-2002, 10:15 PM How about aboot eh? Acroplex 12-02-2002, 10:17 PM The text below is a real post on WHT from someone that will remain anonymous: "We listed the reason on the first post we dont have the time anymore both me and my brother are fulltime college students so it was getting in the way and it wasnt relevent to simon's claim i notified out host hours before simon e-mail me that we were selling. " Can you find the errors in 60 seconds? :D skelley1 12-02-2002, 10:30 PM imply - transmission of information between the lines infer - reception of information between the lines irregardless - not a freakin' word! 'talk to' - is corporate-speak meaning talk about; needs to stay in the boardroom You need dashes when you make a small phrase into a word, like 'holier-than-thou attitude.' These things don't really bother me in chats or forums, but on company websites or in software, it freaking kills me. I've been guilty of shortcutting don't into dont and tho instead of though on occasion if I am typing quickly in a conversation. Phrozen 12-02-2002, 10:39 PM Originally posted by timechange "We listed the reason on the first post we dont have the time anymore both me and my brother are fulltime college students so it was getting in the way and it wasnt relevent to simon's claim i notified out host hours before simon e-mail me that we were selling. " Can you find the errors in 60 seconds? :D Well, that's not gonna be an easy task... We listed the reason on the first post: we don't have the time any more. Both my brother and I are full-time college students so it was getting in the way, and it wasn't relevant to Simon's claim. I notified our host hours before Simon e-mailed me that we were selling. Acroplex 12-02-2002, 10:42 PM Almost perfect Phrozen :D But you would not place a comma right before "and". allan 12-02-2002, 10:46 PM Originally posted by Phrozen Well, that's not gonna be an easy task... We listed the reason on the first post: we don't have the time any more. Both my brother and I are full-time college students so it was getting in the way, and it wasn't relevant to Simon's claim. I notified our host hours before Simon e-mailed me that we were selling. I just thought of another one that bothers me, people who spell Frozen Phrozen :D. Seriously, I think you missed a couple, here is my take on that sentence: I listed the reason within the first post: We no longer have the time. My brother and I are full-time college students and the business was getting in the way. It should be noted that this complaint was not relevant to Simon's claim. I notified our host that we were selling hours before Simon e-mailed me. Acroplex 12-02-2002, 10:49 PM The man with the van gets the prize :D Phrozen 12-02-2002, 10:56 PM Originally posted by timechange But you would not place a comma right before "and". Actually, you would. You do indeed place a comma before a conjunction when it is separating two coordinate independant clauses. Acroplex 12-02-2002, 11:00 PM But but but! The conjuction that occurs by the insertion of the "and" nullifies the need for a comma! The comma, along with the semicolon have a specific use; something that a conjuction of two clauses competes against and is totally lacking the need for. ;) Phrozen 12-02-2002, 11:10 PM No, no, no!!! A comma is to be used before any conjunction, whether it be and, or, but, nor, for, yet, or even so, when it is separating two two independant clauses! I walked to the store, and I bought some apples. I walked to the store and bought some apples. - No comma is necessary because there is only one independant clause. Trust me on this one; I know my English grammar and usage extremely well. ;) pcsteve 12-02-2002, 11:14 PM :rolleyes: :emlaugh: dear god....it's so true. Acroplex 12-02-2002, 11:14 PM I hereby summon Chicken to settle this syntactical anomaly :D skelley1 12-02-2002, 11:17 PM If the two independent clauses are short and there is no danger of misreading, the comma may be omitted. Toolz 12-02-2002, 11:20 PM Originally posted by ToastyX If I see "their" spelled as "there" one more time, I'm going to scream! :kaioken: Completely agree. It is highly highly annoying. Also there's "they're" And "your"/"you're" And awful apostrophes - just sticking them on any old plural. Then we get a post every few days with rambling snetences and no paragraphs or punctuation whatsoever. The other things don't bother me so much - if we could eradicate the above then we'd eradicate 99% of the annoyances. 'tis a shame that the transgressions are not just limited to the 13 year-olds who never went to school because they were busy scamming on WHT though... There are people who should know better who've amassed hundreds of posts with one of these errors in every one! My $0.02 interactive 12-02-2002, 11:21 PM There - Place Their - Possesive. Phrozen 12-02-2002, 11:27 PM Originally posted by skelley1 the comma may be omitted. Yes, yes, yes! It may indeed be omitted! Now back to the original point: my use of the comma was not wrong, however, Timechange's choice of not using a comma isn't wrong either. :cool: skelley1 12-02-2002, 11:28 PM Originally posted by Phrozen Yes, yes, yes! It may indeed be omitted! Now back to the original point: my use of the comma was not wrong, however, Timechange's choice of not using a comma isn't wrong either. :cool: correct! Acroplex 12-02-2002, 11:29 PM Have you seen this other post about this: http://www.mantasoft.co.uk/_stuff/Recursive.swf theqase 12-02-2002, 11:31 PM what are you some grammer freak? i see over their under youre name "a <--------space------> lot" what the heck? Acroplex 12-02-2002, 11:33 PM Is that you, Timmay? theqase 12-03-2002, 12:05 AM who? anon-e-mouse 12-03-2002, 01:01 AM Let's not forget the humble then and than :eek: "abcdhost" is better then "wxyzhost" Lamont 12-03-2002, 01:09 AM http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/errors.html In case you want to check before you post. We wouldn't want to cause any undue stress. ;) anon-e-mouse 12-03-2002, 01:18 AM Wow! That's quite a list :eek2: Toolz 12-03-2002, 02:55 AM Originally posted by Toolz Completely agree. It is highly highly annoying. Also there's "they're" And "your"/"you're" And awful apostrophes - just sticking them on any old plural. Then we get a post every few days with rambling snetences and no paragraphs or punctuation whatsoever. The other things don't bother me so much - if we could eradicate the above then we'd eradicate 99% of the annoyances. 'tis a shame that the transgressions are not just limited to the 13 year-olds who never went to school because they were busy scamming on WHT though... There are people who should know better who've amassed hundreds of posts with one of these errors in every one! My $0.02 Sorry - regarding the "99% of annoyances" I left out "to"/"too"... Acroplex 12-03-2002, 03:11 AM That has to be one of the best threads lately :D stephenM 12-03-2002, 06:07 AM Being on IRC you get that kind of thing all the time. It's just something you've got to get used to (and not drop in to their habits ;)). Darth 12-03-2002, 06:07 AM Originally posted by timechange That has to be one of the best threads lately :D Yea. Been bored lately :bawling: ToastyX 12-03-2002, 07:09 AM Originally posted by theqase what are you some grammer freak? I was talking about spelling, and you misspelled grammar. I don't mind seeing a misspelling here or there, and I realize English is not everyone's native language and that everyone makes a typo from time to time, but I'm starting to see the same errors in almost every thread! Some people ask, why should it matter on a forum or in a chat room? Well, it doesn't matter as much, but the same people make the same mistakes on their web sites and in their e-mail. If you apply for a job with the same errors in your resume, that wouldn't reflect well on you. When I visit a company's web site and see the same errors, that doesn't reflect well on their company. When I e-mail a representative of a company and receive a reply with the same errors, that doesn't reflect well on their company. If they can't even spell words taught in elementary school, what else can't they do? The problem is, these errors are getting more and more common. I'm starting to see certain words spelled wrong more than right! This problem has been getting progressively worse over the last few years. If this trend continues, the world is going to end. :( Darth 12-03-2002, 07:14 AM I was talking about spelling, and you misspelled grammar. :laugh: If this trend continues, the world is going to end. They said that in 2000 and i'm still waiting. StarGate 12-03-2002, 07:50 AM Originally posted by ToastyX If I see "their" spelled as "there" one more time, I'm going to scream! :kaioken: Yes, that sucks indeed. Also when people type "your" instead of "you're or you are". Example: "Hey, your stupid" Answer: "My stupid WHAT? Resend message!" :D bear 12-03-2002, 08:06 AM Originally posted by skelley1 irregardless - not a freakin' word!From the dictionary: "irregardless adv : in spite of everything; without regard to drawbacks" Seems it is now :D Lamont 12-03-2002, 10:16 AM For those of you who think spelling and grammar don't matter, consider this. It is normal for the average person to make judgments of another based on visual impressions: Dresses like an idiot , must be an idiot. In an environment where the only visual impression is the written word the same thing holds true: Writes like an idiot, must BE an idiot. When I see someone use 'ur' instead or 'you are' my impression is that it's a young teenager. If I find out that it's an adult, that's just sad. I can see using abbreviations in a chat room where you try to type as fast as you talk, but on a forum where you have the time to formulate a semi-intelligent post it just looks stupid. The ability to communicate with the written word shows your level of intelligence and education in most cases. So, like it or not, people do make judgments as to the value of what you say by how you say it (or write it). if you dont like it than your stupid! skelley1 12-03-2002, 10:47 AM Originally posted by thatguy From the dictionary: "irregardless adv : in spite of everything; without regard to drawbacks" Seems it is now :D Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so. I'll never agree to a word that means the same as its opposite. Toolz 12-03-2002, 10:54 AM Originally posted by ToastyX Some people ask, why should it matter on a forum or in a chat room? Well, it doesn't matter as much, but the same people make the same mistakes on their web sites and in their e-mail. If you apply for a job with the same errors in your resume, that wouldn't reflect well on you. When I visit a company's web site and see the same errors, that doesn't reflect well on their company. When I e-mail a representative of a company and receive a reply with the same errors, that doesn't reflect well on their company. If they can't even spell words taught in elementary school, what else can't they do? The problem is, these errors are getting more and more common. I'm starting to see certain words spelled wrong more than right! This problem has been getting progressively worse over the last few years. If this trend continues, the world is going to end. :( Should be "words spelled *wrongly*" Spelled is a verb; wrongly qualifies how it's spelt - therefore an adverb is needed. Also email is now fully incorporated into the language so no hyphen required. :) bear 12-03-2002, 03:02 PM Originally posted by skelley1 I'll never agree to a word that means the same as its opposite. Your choice, of course, but it's not the "same as it's opposite" exactly. More of a double negative...redundant even. Language tends to evolve over time, and some words, while repugnant, are often accepted as common. You could use that one in Scrabble...;) For me it's 'bling bling' referring to flashy jewelry and cash. Some idiot uses it in a song, and it's suddenly an accepted phrase (or is it a word?)...although not in the dictionary as yet. Only a matter of time, especially if popular culture uses it more often, I suppose. skelley1 12-03-2002, 04:07 PM Originally posted by thatguy Your choice, of course, but it's not the "same as it's opposite" exactly. More of a double negative...redundant even. Language tends to evolve over time, and some words, while repugnant, are often accepted as common. You could use that one in Scrabble...;) For me it's 'bling bling' referring to flashy jewelry and cash. Some idiot uses it in a song, and it's suddenly an accepted phrase (or is it a word?)...although not in the dictionary as yet. Only a matter of time, especially if popular culture uses it more often, I suppose. Actually in this case, it is the same as its opposite. The usage and accepted definition of irregardless is the same as regardless. A double negative definition, while a faux pas, is still technically correct, and I could accept that if it were how it were used these days. Irregardless should mean the opposite of regardless, which means without regard. Unfortunately it means without regard just as regardless does, it does not mean with regard as the double negative definition should. :eek: I definitely agree that language does and should evolve over time, but this one is illogical. The Onomatopoeic 'bling bling' at least had its birth as a colloquialism, and not an outright misuse as a word. case 12-03-2002, 05:04 PM as long as people get the point or gist* of what you are saying ...who cares , although i am easily annoyed when people say "your" and mean "you're" , and vice versa...so i guess i can feel the pain too Phrozen 12-03-2002, 05:09 PM Originally posted by case who caresI care; I also care about your misspelling of gist. :stickout: After just reading another post in the forum, I just noticed another... The use of 'an' instead of 'a' or vice versa annoys me. The Dude 12-04-2002, 12:11 AM I think this thread is doing nothing more than wasting disk space (uugghh) The Dude :) Phrozen 12-04-2002, 12:14 AM I think you're wrong. :) susannad 12-04-2002, 09:48 AM Ah you found my red herring this is giving me a haddock Acroplex 12-04-2002, 10:47 AM This is real people....I've seen the guy in my area, on I-4. Black Mustang, with the custom tag that says: RU THEIR bear 12-04-2002, 12:44 PM Originally posted by skelley1 Actually in this case, it is the same as its opposite. I stand corrected. The Onomatopoeic 'bling bling' at least had its birth as a colloquialism, and not an outright misuse as a word.The definition of the word "Onomatopoeic" means derived from the sound of something like "buzz" or "murmur". Can you tell me what word or thing this is supposed to 'sound' like? skelley1 12-04-2002, 12:50 PM Originally posted by thatguy I stand corrected. The definition of the word "Onomatopoeic" means derived from the sound of something like "buzz" or "murmur". Can you tell me what word or thing this is supposed to 'sound' like? I should have probably said pseudo-onomatopoeic as I had first considered, but I thought that would have seemed like I was fishing for technical words to use. What I used was bad enough. 'Bling bling' comes from the sound effects used when shiny gold or jewels are portraid in cheesy movies (from what I understand) as the flash from the sun off said objects hits the camera. Acroplex 12-04-2002, 04:24 PM Classic example: :D http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=733985#post733985 CyberSol 12-04-2002, 04:43 PM Originally posted by Toolz 'tis a shame that the transgressions are not just limited to the 13 year-olds who never went to school because they were busy scamming on WHT though... There are people who should know better who've amassed hundreds of posts with one of these errors in every one! My $0.02 Ahem, May I just point out: I am 13,I don't go to public school, and I am just about to start up my own business. You were saying? case 12-04-2002, 06:58 PM Originally posted by Phrozen I care; I also care about your misspelling of gist. :stickout: After just reading another post in the forum, I just noticed another... The use of 'an' instead of 'a' or vice versa annoys me. In trying to argue the position of using proper English grammatical mechanics, you are appearing to contradict yourself. You end what is attempted as your second "sentence" with three periods. To begin, the line is actually fragmental, not a proper sentence, and the use of three points of punctuation shows error as well. You carry on to capitalize the first letter of the next word, representing that you are starting a new sentence, however, the casual use of the numerous periods symbolize that your are leaving the last statement unfinished to be completed in your next, signifying that you are unclear of the beginning and end of each of your thoughts, and making it incredibly confusing for the reader additionally. The use of the word 'of' twice is the last line is also quite redundant. It may interest you to look into the art of writing complex sentences. If you are going to act as if you are an English professor, please set an excellent example yourself. By the way, this is a web hosting forum and not a prep school susannad 12-04-2002, 07:08 PM Originally posted by case .... the casual use of the numerous periods symbolize that your are leaving the last statement .... I know, I know, it's a typo, I know it is I just couldn't help myself I'm Australian case 12-04-2002, 07:19 PM i have nothing wrong with it , i dont care how people type or spell , as long as i can understand what they are trying say . I just think some should practice what they preach =] NexDog 12-04-2002, 07:20 PM ur rite coz there servers is grate. Choppy 12-04-2002, 07:34 PM Got to admit i make the there and their error often. Type to fast for my brain :D Sorry if i make you scream. Phrozen 12-04-2002, 08:48 PM Originally posted by case To begin, the line is actually fragmental, not a proper sentence,I'm sorry, but you must be mistaken. It is most certainly a sentence as it is a complete thought. and the use of three points of punctuation shows error as well. You carry on to capitalize the first letter of the next word, representing that you are starting a new sentence, however, the casual use of the numerous periods symbolize that your are leaving the last statement unfinished to be completed in your next, signifying that you are unclear of the beginning and end of each of your thoughts, and making it incredibly confusing for the reader additionally. No; my use of the ellipses is fine. I used it as one should--to signify that nonessential material is being omitted. I did not use it to signify I was going to continue that thought later on. The use of the word 'of' twice is the last line is also quite redundant. So you'd rather me say "the use of 'an' instead 'a'"? I'm sorry, but that doesn't make sense. It may interest you to look into the art of writing complex sentences. Thank you for your opinion, however, I believe my skills are already quite polished in that area. I feel as though I shouldn't use much complex structure here for the benefit of individuals such as yourself. You already seem quite perplexed by the fairlysimple structure I've been using all along. I wouldn't want to perplex you any farther. If you are going to act as if you are an English professor, please set an excellent example yourself. By the way, this is a web hosting forum and not a prep school.I am not trying to act as if I was an English professor. Is it a crime for a 16 year-old high school student, like myself, to write properly even on forums such as these? I'm sorry if you feel this way, but I simply do not agree. As someone mentioned earlier in this thread, we have no other way to judge the people here than by the way they type. I understand that English is not everyone's first language, nor is anyone even perfect. I know I'm far from perfect myself; we all make mistakes. I personally don't care what type of forum this is, but if I was to get a reply from a host here that read something along the lines of "we cn offer u wut u need mail me thx", I definatley wouldn't think too highly of them. Thanks. :) anon-e-mouse 12-05-2002, 05:15 AM I am wondering about a sudden trend to use teh, instead of the. At first I thought it was a typo, but the same people do it in every thread :mad: stephenM 12-05-2002, 05:22 AM Yeah I noticed that about the head admin of ModernBill, it looks strange. Phrozen: I agree. People can only judge others on Internet forums by the way they type. Businesses should use correct English otherwise it doesn't inspire confidence in the customer(s). bear 12-05-2002, 07:57 AM Originally posted by anon-e-mouse I am wondering about a sudden trend to use teh, instead of the. At first I thought it was a typo, but the same people do it in every thread :mad: I'm guilty of doing that, but I usually look for it before sending/posting. Might have to do with being a self-taught typist? I began with not having any idea of how to type, to being relatively fast, but I have to watch the keys, and I sometimes make some common (to me) mistakes with the order I type the keys in. [teh, jsut, doamin...and so on] Toolz 12-05-2002, 09:28 AM Originally posted by stephenM Yeah I noticed that about the head admin of ModernBill, it looks strange. Phrozen: I agree. People can only judge others on Internet forums by the way they type. Businesses should use correct English otherwise it doesn't inspire confidence in the customer(s). Totally agree. Well said Phrozen. [However you'd be advised to leave off the " in the customer(s)" to aboid any problems with the above sentence... ;) ] liquidknight 12-05-2002, 10:51 PM There, their. Too, two. Lose, loose. It's common english mistakes. Get used to it. Lain 12-06-2002, 03:15 PM Please, for the love of fruit, it is spelled definitely, not definately, and separate, not seperate. :bawling: susannad 12-06-2002, 04:51 PM You write well, Phrozen JayC 12-06-2002, 06:08 PM Originally posted by Phrozen No; my use of the ellipses is fine. Hmmm... shouldn't that be singular? The three periods together, I believe, form an ellipsis; they aren't three ellipses. Yeah, that's my pet peeve! You can all get riled up about their/there or you're/your, but as far as I'm concerned the big issue in English usage today is ellipsis/ellipses!!!1! Phrozen 12-06-2002, 06:19 PM Originally posted by JayC Hmmm... shouldn't that be singular? The three periods together, I believe, form an ellipsis; they aren't three ellipses. Originally posted by myself I know I'm far from perfect myself; we all make mistakes. :stickout: Yes, it should be ellipsis. That's what I like to call a typographical error. ;) susannad 12-07-2002, 01:11 AM I'm the Secretary of the Apostrophe Protection Society modernbill 12-07-2002, 03:31 AM Yeah I noticed that about the head admin of ModernBill, it looks strange. Spelling was never one of my strong attributes, but I can code the hell out of some PHP.... ...although I do wish the "H" and "E" would simply switch places on my keboard.... teh....anybody have a screwdriver??? :D susannad 12-07-2002, 09:40 AM now here's some english for you http://paul.merton.ox.ac.uk/language/analogies.html RackNine 12-07-2002, 11:43 AM y'all come back now. |