With Ensim launching there new prices and soon to be offering a Muli platform control panel, cpanel is loosing ground.

Ensim also signed a huge goverment contract, though it has its problems, we use it for all of clients.

This post is mostly a comparison of the two and some thoughts on product fuctionality.

Also, why not add a poll.

Joe

Since many hosts on here are using VDI, and even more people on here are using a VDI-based host, I'm speculating that the poll results will be skewed in CPanel's favor.

Its a poll.

It should be interesting though.

I agree though, it might be skewed.

Joe

The only reason I voted for CPanel is because of the reseller options which Ensim doesn't support at all.

Ensim has other reseller options.

Joe

Actually no they don't. What they consider reselling is reselling dedicated servers like alabanza does. Thats not reselling in my book. It's leasing a dedicated server with a CP.

Reselling is letting your smaller clients sell hosting on a shared server with everyone else.

If you due your due diligence you would know that server exchange gives resellers the ability to have there own dedicated machine at 1/4 of the price.

So they dont have a reseller panel like alabanza they have something better.

I have several clients that like having a private server. It gives them there own machine.

Its called Server Xchange, a great product.

Also ensim is not a hosting company. They develop a product.

Look into it.

Joe

I didn't think we were talking server x change which costs out the butt. I thought we were talking straight control panels (no hardware).

I still say until Ensim adds normal reselling capabilities to it's stand alone CP then it can't compete. JMHO:cartman:

I mean I partnered with ensim, and there product is really interesting.

I also have a server with cpanel.

For me a private server is a great tool to have. Resellers get there own machine.

When I started with alabanza they have more automation.

Ensim is not automated like cp and ala, that really where they lack.

Overall its consistent for win 2k and linux so i like that.

Once again cp and ensim both great products, we happen to choose ensim for scalability

Joe

Well, a few points. First, I think it is helpful when starting polls that you present the information on both sides as un biased as possible and let people vote.

Also, many hosts/resellers/clients of VDI/VDI based hosts do frequent the board, so that isn't going to help with the results. Many will hate VDI currently due to recent downtime, and this will bug up the poll which is actually for the cpanel itself, not VDI.

Third, I don't see these as 100% comparable products, as the Server Xchange is a different product than the one Isaw earlier, and is priced differently (unless I'm mistaken).

For for, the poll is fine, but it neglects to address the issues, and thus is limited in its value. Want to skin ensim? Want to offer reselling capabilities? Some of these issues weigh heavily on most of the hosts I talk to and this poll doesn't address the 'why' aspect of the vote.

I want to know why, either way. I don't think one is losing ground over the other, nor one CP is best for everyone. I do like ensim over a RaQ though, and this seems exactly what it would be good at replacing (for my needs).

I agree with chicken. This is not a true comparison.

they both control servers but that is as close as it gets. They seem to target completely different markets.

One for those who like running a server and putting resellers on a dedicated server.. and one who has regular resellers that are not ready for the dedicated jump.

It is like comparing your favorite football team against your favorite baseball team... they both do what they do - well,,, but they are in different leagues all together.

perhaps he just wanted to see how the polling function worked.

Tim L

Hi :)

imVHO , i'd go with cpanel over ensim and imo plesk is way much better than ensim.

Our backup server located at Hopone internet/Superb.net is on ensim cp and all i can say is it sucks a**, plesk is way better.

and that is only my opinion :D

I agree with chicken.

I also wanted to see how the poll feature works.

I think though that though they offer some different fuctionality, they should be compared.

What I should have done is added Sphere, and Plesk to the mix.

That would have made it more open.

What can you do.

Although they are in different leagues, I agree with Joe that they should be compared. Is it worth spending the big bucks on Ensim, an upscale and more reliable product? Or are we better off saving the money with Cpanel, and taking advantage of its customization that we might not get with Ensim?

Although a company's goals would weigh heavily on the decision, the above issues may be weighed for your basic shared hosting.

In regards to pricing, server xchange is the big money ticket item.

The basic webaplliance is rather affordable.

https://buy.ensim.com/items.asp

As you can see these are one time per server fees. Its a rather afforable item.

By I agree with you they should be compared.

Hope that helps a little.

I lean towards ensim, but I use both....

Well I suppose you never mentioned exactly which Ensim product the poll was measuring.

Their new one seems to do battle with RaQ, Plesk, etc., where Server Xchange would be more against Cpanel + WHM.

They both have their good and bad points. As stated above IMHO they both target different levels. We use ENSIM, at times it's great and then other times I wish we had Cpanel. Most of the problems comes with new customers that have no experience. ENSIM is sometimes difficult and confusing for them where I think that Cpanel would be a little easier for them and accomplish the same tasks. As for customizing, ENSIM is pretty much dead set against any modifications or you lose your support, whereas Cpanel is more open to it this may change now that ENSIM has opened up to the public so we will just have to wait and see. It was nice to see the addition of a MySQL frontend added into 2.4 version of ENSIM (finally).