Does anyone have anything to report back about linuxmotor.com ?

Check out these packages :-

http://www.linuxmotor.com/template.php?ref_blocks=FreeBSDservers&section=E-Hosting&subsection=services


When I read about there datacentre, it reads this :-

Linux has today two data centers(NOC) of a total surface of 20.000 Square feets, located in Elancourt - France and Houston - USA (Texas).

I stumbled on this website by accident when doing a traceroute on another europeon provider, and there website traces back to paris, I wonder if when you buy a server from them if it really will be in Europe ?



Anyway, if anyone got any experinces with these people, let me know, I did do a search on "linuxmotor" but I got this :-

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You could always ask them about where the servers are, but I'd think that 300GB of transfer for $80/month would be in the US.

'their' network looks mighty familiar.

:)

Right click mrtg graph, "View image", oh oops, it takes me to ev1.net.... how... strange

Doesn't the dedicated servers listing look familiar also?

http://www.linuxmotor.com/template.php?ref_blocks=dedicated&section=E-Hosting&subsection=services&PHPSESSID=c3165092a2d163df1fc66b83ec9c3228

i'd like to know how they can offer those prices at rackshack.

i hate to think they're pretending the ev1 network is theirs but offering their servers elsewhere.. Their nameservers seem to be in France.

yes, there website and nameservers are in france.

How do they offer freebsd machines if there rackshack?


Id love to know more about this company, but it does smell, just like the french :D

Just sent em this email, lets see what they say.


Hi, just a few questions about your hosting, firstly would my server be on your european network, its only any good if it is.


Secondly, why do you link to rackshacks network usage graphs? What bandwidth do you have on YOUR own network ?

From their AUP....

"This Agreement ("Agreement") is between Linux Motor, a Delaware corporation ("Linux Motor") headquartered at 25 Greystone Manor, Lewes, Delaware, 19938-9776 USA (DE)"

"Thomcat Server"

ha!

What I would like to know is how they offer sparc's at rs!!

FreeBSD I can believe, you can remotely reinstall the redhat boxen to *BSD or maybe even Solaris, but no way to change the arch..

Heres the replie to the email


Hello Mr Doody,

Thanks for the interest shown for our dedicated hosting offers.

Our dedicated hosting servers are located in Europe ( France).

The network graphs are the one we have in the States. The french
possibilities are just burstable ones and we have actually a 330 G
transfer per month per server.In order to improve dramatically and
satisfy our latest customers we are setting up additional
links.(burstable as well).


Best regards.

interesting.
to me it seems they're hoping to impress using EV1's network as their own.

perhaps they could actually mention what their network is like in the EU.

They do have a history of spamming:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=200206201711.MAA31603%40minneapolis.mnjazz.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3DC9367F.3050906%40vevida.nl

LinuxMOter... I saw that some days ago, when i was pinging the server sold by

http://www.mikajo.net/ or www.mikajo.nl

They use that ping i think!

Check them out... they have dedicated in USA, France, and Netherlands...

They are good so i have heart... used by many tv-channels in the Netherlands... good deals on European bandwidth...

I think that Mikajo is hosting in the same NOC in france...

I just checked the site of LInuxMOtor... and they state that they have two nocs... one in france Elancourt... I also saw a deal once with 300gigs of transfer for 119 euro = dollar, so i guess they make more profit on the USA servers (Rackshack hosted, i think) and less on te french onces...

Good deal though... 300Gigs france! Nice config, plus possible to get Debian installed!

Anyway... you could ask them

Oh, saw the board of directors and stuffs... i think it's only a one mans company... i might be wrong... donno...

Hi all,

:: I think that Mikajo is hosting in the same NOC in france...

We indeed host some servers in France aswell.
We rent a big part of a Dutch datacenter and we host hundreds of servers in Holland. That's our core business while we are located in Amsterdam. Our US part company of Mikajo hosts servers in San Jose and Texas, but not in the same datacenter as Rackshack (slow connections).

We just started to check out the France datacenter.
I'll be honest with all of you: if you are looking for an unmanaged server, Linuxmotor is great! You will not find a cheaper server with 300Gb elsewhere. But again, it's unmanaged.

:: I just checked the site of LInuxMOtor... and they state that they have two nocs... one in france Elancourt...

Yes, they host their servers (like us :-) in east part of France.

:: I also saw a deal once with 300gigs of transfer for 119 euro = dollar, so i guess they make more profit on the USA servers (Rackshack hosted, i think) and less on te french onces...

Yeah, we, like LinuxMotor, try to make dedicated hosting more popular in Europe. Unfortunately datatransfer in Europe is still very expensive. So indeed, many profits are not bein' made.

:: Good deal though... 300Gigs france! Nice config, plus possible to get Debian installed!

Yes, and what can you loose? Only $1 setup and month-to-month contract.

:: Oh, saw the board of directors and stuffs... i think it's only a one mans company... i might be wrong... donno...

That I don't know. I know at least 3 people working there.

Hope my info might help you :)

i'm still curious how they can offer those servers in rackshack's data center? or is their dedicated servers in the EU and they do their virtual hosting in the US on rackshack servers?

what exactly is linuxmotor's connections in their EU datacenter?



and not defending rackshack here, but, can you explain why you think the EV1 / rackshack data center (they own their data center and do not offer co-lo last i checked) has "slow connections"?


and i'm adding that all over the linux motor website they state that the rackshack network is "their own" network. can they get anymore misleading?

Originally posted by skylab

and not defending rackshack here, but, can you explain why you think the EV1 / rackshack data center (they own their data center and do not offer co-lo last i checked) has "slow connections"?


Well you have to talk bad about your competitors :)

If this is the genuine deal...


... like Freebsd 2GHZ 300GB of european bandwidth for 99 usd per month, this is frikkin amazing, to say the least :)




I think I may have found my 2nd home, as ive been in dia need of an europeon host for my radio casts.

:: and not defending rackshack here, but, can you explain why you think the EV1 / rackshack data center (they own their data center and do not offer co-lo last i checked) has "slow connections"?

Sorry about my bad use of English... what I was trying to say is that since we are a Dutch company, we don't want to host servers at a location where we have a ping time from more than 120ms!

We want all our servers, where ever they are hosted in the world, don't have a ping time of more than 140ms.

Rackshack's ping time from Holland to RS is most of the time between 140 and 180ms, too slow for us.

And indeed... it's a competitor ;)

Hmm, shame that all of there testimonals trace back to the us, and the 3 out of 4 trace back to the ev1 network :-


ev1.net-icc-gateway-64.200.162.2.ic2net.net

Yeah well.. I do know that they can put your server in France. Just send them an email. If you are not satisfied, you can always cancel the server. You can only loose $100 ;)

Good luck.
John.

Originally posted by Mikajo
Yeah well.. I do know that they can put your server in France. Just send them an email. If you are not satisfied, you can always cancel the server. You can only loose $100 ;)

Good luck.
John.

Providing they promise me european bandwidth, in the new year, I think I might just do that :)

Be great to have an us and eu mirror of my radio casts, espcially when most of my listeners are uk based!

For anyone whos interested, I now own a server with linuxmotor.

server1.mghost.net

ICMP is disabled, which I would say is a good idea, and like it, but NTP, time sync doesnt work! :(

It works really well for UK customers, you only get 1 ip with the server, they cost $25 setup for each additoanl IP with only a $1 rental fee, ill get some of these when ive had the server for a few months.


Had it for almsot a month, its been pretty good, one downtime thus far from a power failure, due to bad weather.


So, i give them hmm 8/10 so far, it was setup quick enough, everything smooth.

Loose 1 point for the brief downtime and loose one point for only having 1 IP address with the server!

wow, that looks very nice ....
not only ping times :D
colt bandwidth isn't bad ... (atleast i can only see colt)
and the ability of choosing between debian, freebsd etc. is definitely nice :)

best regards,

Originally posted by BiGWill
wow, that looks very nice ....
not only ping times :D
colt bandwidth isn't bad ... (atleast i can only see colt)
and the ability of choosing between debian, freebsd etc. is definitely nice :)

best regards,


Agreed, there offerings are second to none. I will keep you all infomred as to how my experiences pan out. So good so far.

You can also monitor my graphs for usage, and you can see the steady rocksolidness during my stay :)

http://server1.mghost.net/mrtg/mrtg.php?host=server1.mghost.net_1&maand=Current

BTW anyone thinking of using these people, dont....


For almost a month now I have had no replies to my emails or my support tickets.

Recently there network has been getting slower by the day at busy periods, now even so at any period, and today its gone down all together, damn its been good as down for a few weeks now.

This is why ive signed up with another provider just recently.


Its not the network thats the problem, its the cheek of not answering any emails or support tiickets, so im stuck in limbo here with no answers to anything.

My users have been moaning about the site speed for last few weeks, so its definatly on a global scale!


It was all good to start with, but somebody tells me that they have 200 servers sharing there 155mb line, and I guess they are expanding on servers withuot upgrading bandwidth, I dunno, but its got real bad.

155mb with 200 servers. Ah. That would be a problem would it, even though theoretically you can still get 300GB. That's the problem I guess if your bandwidth is expensive. You can't really keep on expanding your capacity so wantonly.

This is why ive signed up with another provider just recently.
and where did you go?(i'm just interested in europes dedicated)

Originally posted by qartu
and where did you go?(i'm just interested in europes dedicated)

Out of europe, into the east coast of the US, closest to europe, they have cheaper bandwidth and better providers, ive given nocster the benefit of the doubt this time round, there is a track record of excellent performance, depsite the recent minor hiccups, but there having new providers im very much interested in, Verio and Global Crossing!

The company hasnt gone under, my server came back up a few hours ago, luckily, so now I can get all my data transferrred!!!

I dont expect an explanation for what went on though, as they still havnt answered my 5 tickets and my several emails dating back to as long as a month ago!

Do you know something about linuxmotor.fr?

My server is offline, do u know what has it happens with this company????

Thanks in advance.

Note: 194.9.222.23 was my ip. it is not working for more than 18 hours.

Originally posted by navenetworks
Do you know something about linuxmotor.fr?

My server is offline, do u know what has it happens with this company????

Thanks in advance.

Note: 194.9.222.23 was my ip. it is not working for more than 18 hours.


Same for me mate, though its back up now, but still as slow as ever, and seems they have disabled UDP packets again, which means again my secondary name servers wont be working again and I cant sync with NTP servers.

Good thing ive already moved all my data over, and just waiting for my new server before I send a big F*** Y** to linuxmotor ;)

Oh yeah, my IP is 194.9.222.24, what a coinsidance.

Hi,

I feel sorry for all those people who got affected by their bad networkperformance and support. We got some emails from customers of Linuxmotor with the question to help them out. There is absolutely *no* link between Mikajo and Linuxmotor.

Some months ago we wanted to expand our Dutch network and tried some space at Linuxmotor, not knowing that their network is nothing more than a fast ADSL connection where they put all their servers on.

10 days later we stopped immediately after we noticed the bad performance on their network, not even to mention the '0' persons personnel :( Why using a ticketsystem if nobody reads it ?

We don't use other European locations anymore, we just host all our servers within our Dutch datacenters.

Good luck everyone and remember.... 300Gb for $99.00 in Europe is almost impossible!

My server is now online again but I don't feel support is cool :(((( That is not normal.

Does someone know something about Skyturn.com? They offer service at 150 $/month.

watch out... at their site.... "1Mbps Garantee"... what's that for sort of garantee?

LinuxMotor... I was very lucky, to not go with them... because exaclty when i started to verify my final order, i never got emailed back. So, after a few days, Nocster Valentine deal came along... and i took that! Luckily!!!

Originally posted by jobvdsande
watch out... at their site.... "1Mbps Garantee"... what's that for sort of garantee?


I tell you what that is thats a BS guarentee


http://server1.mghost.net/mrtg/mrtg.php?host=server1.mghost.net_1&maand=Current


When it gets to about 400k, it becomes almost unbearable, 1mbps guarantee, pah, I wish!!!

Skyturn.com
watch out... at their site.... "1Mbps Garantee"... what's that for sort of garantee?

They say they have dual GigE line... but if you are capped at 1mbit, doesn't matter a thing now does it?

Originally posted by jobvdsande
Skyturn.com
watch out... at their site.... "1Mbps Garantee"... what's that for sort of garantee?

They say they have dual GigE line... but if you are capped at 1mbit, doesn't matter a thing now does it?


1mbit guarentee does not mean 1mbit CAP, 1mbit guarentee is the minimum available bandwidth guarentee, they avertise as fully burstable, fully burstable to what I dont know ;)


IF I was capped at 1mbit, id be bloody lucky, coz as I said, I cant get anywhere near that out of them !

Well, I have my site hosted at linuxMotor and it has been nothing but a BIG headache.

My site goes down at least once a month and the email server associated with my site seems to crash every other week.

I signed up for hosting last June (2002) and I should have known I was in for a world of problems because just 2 weeks in to my contract, some tech guy format the server hard drives and they said "oops, please re-load your files".

My site has already been down a couple of times this week, and the email server has crashed everyday this week and it takes them 24 hours to restart it.

I'm serious. I have had almost no email access for 3 days. Just as I started to read my email via web interface today, it crashed again (At that time I had 171 unread messages!!). I don't how they expect me do my business.

Like someone mentioned, they don't answer their emails and now their main phone number is disconnected.

Anyway, I am desperately searching for a new hosting company. I am looking at the following 3 sites:
http://www.nxserve.com
http://www.venturesonline.com
http://www.rackshack.net

Any comments would be appreciated. I don't need anything fancy. My site is mainly static pages (500MB of space & at least 5GB of bandwidth) but I need email that is 100% reliable and available via a web interface.

Thanks
Roger...

Oh btw, this company really takes the p**s!

Ive emailed them and told them "NO I DONT WANT YOUR SERVICE ANYMORE".

I used there ticket system, and emailed every contact on the site, to stop the service, as per aup, it says cancel anytime.


They ignore me and still charge my credit card. My credit card company cant get the money back for me, but they are looking at stopping any future payments :(

I have recieved spam from Linuxmotor on several occasions, I don't care if they have the fastest network on earth with the fastest support, I wouldn't use these bastards for ANYTHING, spammers piss me off.