Hey Fellow WHT'ers.

I got into a controversial discussion today with someone regarding Private Schools.

What do you think? Are they worth the money? Or should children grow up like everyone else, In a state school [not that it is bad..]

Some People have very strong views on this subject - I was just wondering what WHT's response to this attitude would be.

I hope this doesn't offend anyone, and If it does, I'm Sorry.

Best Regards,
Asif

Whether one should goto private school or public school is dependent on the education that they would get at each school, if the child is the type of person to belong or fit in at either of these schools, there is no real better or worse way to go on a general level, it is dependent on many different things.

i went to private school and don't regard myself as different to anybody else. My grades were fairly average, though i do think that there was alot more depth conducted when teaching the subjects.

What you have to be careful of is that the person remains grounded. Some people let the fact they went to private school inflate their ego.

Heya.

Well, I accept there are many factors - Two examples are as follows:

1. A Child who has always been brought up in a stable, loving family environment, and has plenty of money. They have always been sent to a private school.

2. A child who has come from a broken home, maybe with a single parent [not that having a single parent indicates a bad standard of living for a child], and has never had what they wanted in life, and has never been treated equally at school.

Now, If Number 2's Parent suddenly came into money, and was sent to a private school:

Who do you think would appeciate the standard of education more??

I'm not getting my personal opinion interfere, I'm just curious..

Regards
Asif

Originally posted by thebyp2
i went to private school and don't regard myself as different to anybody else. My grades were fairly average, though i do think that there was alot more depth conducted when teaching the subjects.

What you have to be careful of is that the person remains grounded. Some people let the fact they went to private school inflate their ego.

Yes, Thats right.

Many people who go to private schools see it as a "status" factor. I go to a private school, So I am better than you

It's not the school that makes the person smart, it's up to the person to make themselves smart.

Regards
Asif

i think alot of this argument is locally dependant. (country and area)

Originally posted by thebyp2
i think alot of this argument is locally dependant. (country and area)

What makes you say that?

I have posted this topic here, becuase I believe that quite a few of the Members are from More Economically Developed areas of the world, i.e.:

- UK
- USA
- Canada
- Australia
- Some other European countries, i.e. France, Germany..

I agree that I shouldn't stereotype WHT users as from these countries, but I'm making an educated guess..

Best Regards
Asif

I got lucky as the public school in my area is a safe, well funded and rather well taught place. But I only went there for my senior year of high school, I had gone to private schools and for lack of a better term "second chance" schools the rest. I can't really say which I think worked better as its dependent on each individfual student or child. Every person is unique in some way, some more than others.

regretably i do think that the standard of teaching is better than a generic state funded school.

though this theory is founded on the school i went to. i couldn't say that applies to all schools.

Some students require special attention, and I feel that this is not always available accross the globe in State Funded Schools.

Some students will go to a Private school, and waste the oppurtunity, whereas other people will be much more appreciative and grab that oppurtunity with both hands.

It's a hard life.... [starts singing song from Austin Powers 3 :: Goldmember]

Regards
Asif

double post..

sorry


regards
Asif

Originally posted by retrohelix


What makes you say that?

I have posted this topic here, becuase I believe that quite a few of the Members are from More Economically Developed areas of the world, i.e.:

- UK
- USA
- Canada
- Australia
- Some other European countries, i.e. France, Germany..

I agree that I shouldn't stereotype WHT users as from these countries, but I'm making an educated guess..

Best Regards
Asif

when i said this i was meaning that in some areas state schools are excellent. this is especially true in parts of the uk.

Ah Yes.

Of course, Some state funded schools are absolutely excellent!

But then again, some aren't..Which is the problem.

Regards
Asif

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I think that going to a Private School or Public School should be the child's choice, if they have one. Obviously if the parent can't afford a private school, then they are going to the Public School no matter what. But if they have the choice then I believe it should be the childs decision. Obviously if they wish to study religion then more than likely they'd want to go to a Private School, rather than a Public School where they cannot show bias towards religion.

However with that said, if I were living in a place such as Cleveland where there's some serious overcrowding and 5 fights in between each class change then I'd push more towards a Private School.

The one thing that I would not do is Homeschooling. I personally feel that is one of the worst things you can do to a child as they miss out on one of the most important aspects of life - Social Skills. Without good people skills, I don't think you will go anywhere in life and most people form their people skills during their child/adolescent years.

Originally posted by inogenius
I think that going to a Private School or Public School should be the child's choice, if they have one. Obviously if the parent can't afford a private school, then they are going to the Public School no matter what....

not totally. i got a a scholarship. couldn't have gone otherwise.

One of the worst things a parent can do is let a child get used to a private school, and then take them out.

I'm Gonna Tell you a story from a few years back - this happened to a friend of mine:

My Friend was 11, and he wanted to come to my school. His parents were having some difficulties, and they split up. It was the mothers decision. The father was not proud of what he had done - he had abused the whole family, and becuase of this, he was left out.

He told my friends mother, that if anyone found out what was going on, he would take both of the kids out of their schools, which amounted to about $8,000 per term.

My friends mother told her sister, and as a result, they were taken out of the school. The two children were very bright, and they still are, yet they will never forgive their father for what he has done.

That sort of thing can turn someone's whole life upside down.

Regards
Asif

Looing for link to the study recently made by National Geographic. Results are scarry. Something like 60% US teens were not able to point US on the world map. This alone is reason enough not to even conside public school for my son.

Something like 60% US teens were not able to point US on the world map. This alone is reason enough not to even conside public school for my son.

60% I find is a little hard to believe. I don't know a single teen who doesn't know where the US is. Maybe if they were asked to point out a country such as Latvia I could understand, but the US, I don't believe that.

One thing about school that annoys me is that they teach useless things:

Why am I going to need to know how to factoris [z] e equations? Does that help me work out how much my bandwidth bill is going to be?

They teach useless information - the curriculum should be changed.

Private Schools dont have to follow national guidelines as much..

Asif

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Please ignore my above post. It is the biggest pile of crap I have ever talked.

regards
Asif

Things didn't quite work out for me in public school, therefore my parents decided to send me to an independent school. At first, I was reluctant to attend. I had the idea that everyone would be snobbish and make me feel inferior. However, that was not the case. The school I attended was very welcoming, and the students were extremely humble. I had a wonderful time and my experience resulted in a striking new outlook on life and education. I was inspired and encouraged to pursue my dreams.

There are many independent schools that exist for many different purposes. There are schools for the gifted, those with learning disabilities, ESL students, performing arts schools, highly academically oriented schools, and schools for the very rich that work more like corporate institutions.

Overall, there are advantages and disadvantages in attending an independent school - just as a public school. The main focus should be to place the student in an environment where he or she will feel appreciated and valued as a class member.

A few faults may exist in the public educational system, but many of these same faults exist in the independent sector. There are public schools that outrank independent schools, and there are independent schools that outrank public ones.

Originally posted by inogenius


60% I find is a little hard to believe. I don't know a single teen who doesn't know where the US is. Maybe if they were asked to point out a country such as Latvia I could understand, but the US, I don't believe that.


It is hard to believe with reason. I was wrong. I scanned too quickly through that newsletter.
I found the link with the survey results. Only 11% pecent americans could not find US

http://geosurvey.nationalgeographic.com/geosurvey/highlights.html

11%... that's still absolutely terrible.

In the country where i come from we had to learn so many "useless information". School bags were too heavy and school day was too long. I hated it at that time, and spent many schooll days in nearby night club (they were opened 24/7). Now I realize that amount of "useless knowlege" allowed me to make educated choices in my life. There are no many conversations that I feel inferior or not knowledgable enough. I am able to make "my own" opinions and I am too easy to be brainwashed.

There are no such thing as "useless information" or "too much education". Kids' brains can take a lot, certanly much more than noth-american education institutions are able or willing to provide.

Originally posted by retrohelix
What do you think? Are they worth the money? Or should children grow up like everyone else, In a state school [not that it is bad..]

The high school I'm in right now is actually fairly new (about 4 years old or so, and it's a public one). I feel the biggest problem is the people sitting in the big chairs (Board of Education). They have no choice but to spend all their money on the kids failing out rather than on enhancing the education of gifted youth. Example: "degree math" and "degree English" classes taken for credit in order to pass the California High School Exit Exam.

And why are there more kids than ever in remedial programs? The US, as a whole, has become complacent. "Since we're a superpower, why do we have to bother doing our homework every night?" I propose one solution: modifying our compulsatory education laws to exempt kids in middle and high school and hardening elementary school curricula. Of course, it'll cause some turmoil in the short term but eventually you'll have a generation who values education. The ones who don't want education simply won't get the big paychecks every month. It might sound cold, but this might be necessary.