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Mesum
11-29-2002, 12:53 AM
Hey guy, I think its the right forum for this, for the friends in US (not sure if out of US and Canada can enjoy this offer too) Maxtor 80 GIGs hard drive is for only 49.99 after mail in rebate.

Here is the link.

1) Maxtor 80GB 8MB Ultra Series

2) Regular Price $129.99
3) Maxtor Rebate: $50
4) Additional Maxtor Rebate: $30
5) Final Price = $49.99

http://shop2.outpost.com/product/3493763

I ordered 2 of em, I think it's a pretty sweet deal, if someone knows a better one, please let me know.

ChickenSteak
11-29-2002, 12:57 AM
Maxtor are the worste grade of hard drive you can get besides a tin can :D.

Acroplex
11-29-2002, 12:58 AM
Great deal, but it says "Offer limited to one rebate check per
household." so buying 2 was not a smart idea.

Acroplex
11-29-2002, 01:07 AM
So I went ahead and ordered one :D
Thanks for the pointer Mesum, much appreciated :D

Mesum
11-29-2002, 01:35 AM
One as a gift ;) and one for me, 2nd one is going to my parents house.

Acroplex
11-29-2002, 01:38 AM
Gotcha. Smart move :D
Now, I am kind of curious...the rebate PDF consists of 2 separate rebates, one for $50 and one for $30. But there is a spot to stick the UPC and sales receipt in both. What if they deny one for not having the UPC and receipt? Also it now doesn't make sense to me, one rebate is for the sale from 11/22 to 11/29 and the other is for sale on 11/29 only.

Oh well, evern with a $50 rebate that's a good deal for this HD.

PorkChup
11-29-2002, 03:15 AM
If you ordered it on 11/28, you just ruined your own rebate, cause the second one is valid 11/29 ONLY.

Also, they both require the original UPC, so take caution.

Acroplex
11-29-2002, 03:33 AM
Ordered on 11/29 seven minutes after midnight :D
As for the second UPC, I am equally confused. If Maxtor won't honor the $80 total rebate, I will file a nice chargeback against Outpost.com for posting false information.

bwho
11-29-2002, 04:38 AM
rebate expires on 11/30/02

does the mail in rebate have to be post marked / or in by that date?

Acroplex
11-29-2002, 04:41 AM
One retail packaged Maxtor 80GB 7200 RPM Ultra
Series Hard Drive. Offer good on purchase made on
November 29, 2002 at Fry's Electronics or
Outpost.com only. Offer good only in US and Canada.
All rebate requests must be postmarked by December
20, 2002 and received no later than January 02, 2003.
Any requests postmarked or received after applicable
dates will be returned as ineligible. Receipt must
include a date that falls within the promotional period.
No reproductions of the UPC code will be accepted.
Maxtor is not responsible for late, lost, misdirected or
postage due mail. If terms and conditions are not
met, rebate will not be sent. Incomplete or illegible
submissions will be returned. Rebate checks are void
if not cashed within 90 days of issuance and cannot
be reissued. Offer limited to one rebate check per
household. Must be a resident of the US or Canadian
to be eligible. Void where prohibited, taxed or
restricted by law. Sales tax not refunded. Inquires
regarding this offer received later than 90 days after
last date of this promotion will not be acknowledged
records. Please allow 6 to 8 weeks, after receipt of
rebate request, for processing. If you have not
received your rebate after 8 weeks, please call 1-888-
241-6208.
To track the status of your rebate, log on to:
www.RebatesHQ.com

DJiMPaCT
11-29-2002, 06:28 AM
Just ordered mine,
Hopefully their shipping isn't as bad as buy.com (took 28 days to get an mp3 player). Or I will be out of a rebate.

DJiMPaCT
11-29-2002, 06:30 AM
Is there any other deals like this going on? Possibly for some ram :)

ATST
11-29-2002, 08:56 AM
I got a Western Digital 60 gig with 7200 rpm for $79 before a $20 rebate at Officemax making it $59. I'm pretty happy with that. I got the rebate back already, and I didn't even installl the HD yet.
You do have to read the fine print though as I have seen rebates that say "$xx.xx after rebate" only to find you are ineligeble for some, or all of that rebate. Even though it is misleading, as long as you are able to find that out before you buy it, it is your fault if you buy it anyway. Actually if one of the rebates is from the store where purchased, they should accept a copy of the UPC because they know there is another rebate attatched to that item, so it isn't likely that you will buy it, get the rebate, and then return it to the store.
At the same time I got the above mentioned HD, I also picked up a mailstation ($50) that was suposed to be free after rebate. My buddy called while I was in the store and had me pick him up one too. When we read the rebate instructions, it required you to sign up with earthlink. Nowhere, not in the newspaper ad, or the in store ad, or the sign where the mailstation was, did it say you had to sign up for 6 months with earthlink to get the rebate. Only once you opened the box, it said that. Well, we already have an internet connection, and we didn't need another one, plus even someone who already is an earthlink customer would also not get the rebate. My buddy called the store first, then the general manager in Monday, and we were told to bring them back to get an instore rebate. We brought them back, and they refunded the sale, and we got to keep our mailstations. The lesson learned: Carefully read all ads on the item, and keep copies of the ads. If it is their fault, and they are a reputable company, they will have to make good on it.
Anyway, good luck with your Maxtor. Some say they are great, some say they are junk, but I have an 8 gig one that has been dependable for the last three years, and it's still going . . .
I hope my Western Digital turns out to be as good.

gagsplus
11-29-2002, 09:23 AM
There are plenty of deal sites out there, none of which I run so here are the sites I visit. Careful these sites are supposed to help you save money but I think sometimes I spend more money.

http://www.gotapex.com/deals.php
They break down deals very nicely, always have the dell specials listed and some great deals on big screen HDTV's sometimes

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/
http://www.fatwallet.com/

A great site, the list the codes for coupons and some more deals than apex does.

http://forums.anandtech.com/
Another site similar to Fatwallet. They can't post codes or links to coupons, I don't know why but you will see Fatwallet mentioned like FW or F@tw@llet stuff like that. They have a good rebate tracking thread to let you know when others are getting rebates.


BTW, on the double rebates, ussually you can send one to the rebate company and the other to the manufacturer (copy goes to the man) that is how most do it.

BTW, CircuitCity has a nice 120GB drive on sale by Western Digital, you can buy it this week and then pricematch next week as either Officemax or Officedepot is going to have the drive cheaper, can be work but some people do it save $20

TheComputerGuy
11-29-2002, 09:52 AM
10 dollar burners at Best Buy after rebate!

get there fast!

Acroplex
11-29-2002, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by TheComputerGuy
10 dollar burners at Best Buy after rebate!

get there fast!

Damn, I'm at work today. But I'll take an early lunch break :D

phantasywork
11-29-2002, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by ChickenSteak
Maxtor are the worste grade of hard drive you can get besides a tin can :D.


I have to agree :rolleyes:

Andrew
11-29-2002, 10:51 AM
I have to disagree 100%. My experiences with Maxtor are exactly the opposite. IMHO they make 100 times the drive WDC does. And their customer service can't be beat.

sigma
11-29-2002, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by lightnin
I have to disagree 100%. My experiences with Maxtor are exactly the opposite. IMHO they make 100 times the drive WDC does. And their customer service can't be beat.

Our failure rate with Maxtor was markedly higher than with WDC. Of course, both are dwarfed by the horrible problems with IBM drives (thankfully they are giving up that business).

Kevin

interactive
11-29-2002, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by ChickenSteak
Maxtor are the worste grade of hard drive you can get besides a tin can :D.

Maxtor beats the hell out of WD. WD is very quiet but has loads of problems.

Acroplex
11-29-2002, 11:28 AM
I've had the notorious IBM's, the WD (good), Seagate, Quantum and Maxtor. The latter has been very dependable - have an 80 Gb that has a smaller cache. No bad sectors, no noise, no errors.

interactive
11-29-2002, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by timechange
I've had the notorious IBM's, the WD (good), Seagate, Quantum and Maxtor. The latter has been very dependable - have an 80 Gb that has a smaller cache. No bad sectors, no noise, no errors.

I personally like the IBM deskstars but thats just me. Never have had a problem with maxtor. We wont go into all the stuff thats gone on with WD drives.

progex
11-29-2002, 11:43 AM
Maxtor beats the hell out of WD. WD is very quiet but has loads of problems.

Probably in your opinion, but if you go over to Anandtech or Arstechnica, for that matter, here's the run-down:

WD > Maxtor > IBM

richy
11-29-2002, 03:04 PM
maxtors are quality drives. comparing them to tin cans just shows your complete lack of any judgement whatsoever.

ChickenSteak
11-29-2002, 03:58 PM
Trust me i've dealt with enough hard drives ;). Seagate i've had the best look with then IBM/WD maxtor are just crap maybe I get deffective ones everytime or something but they always end up burning out or so in at most a month.

Lately we've been using IBM, and for scsi seagate.

MGCJerry
11-29-2002, 04:12 PM
Figures, I see a good deal when I'm broke. :bawling:

Every HD failure I've ever had was to a WD HD... I have a 130MB Maxtor HD, and it is still running fine just fine. I think it has 2 or 3 bad sectors though, but it has been moved a lot. I just recently had a 300MB maxtor go out on me, but I knew it was going to go. I had that drive for 3 years.

interactive
11-29-2002, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by ChickenSteak
Trust me i've dealt with enough hard drives ;). Seagate i've had the best look with then IBM/WD maxtor are just crap maybe I get deffective ones everytime or something but they always end up burning out or so in at most a month.

Lately we've been using IBM, and for scsi seagate.


Seagate makes the best scsi drives in the world. I' msure everyone agrees with me there. But their IDE drives suck big time. I like the IBM deskstars personally thats what I run in most of my machines. But maxtor makes some real good drives too. WD Plain sucks like I said.

richy
11-29-2002, 07:09 PM
indeed, seagate make the best scsi, their ide isnt bad, we have a server with two seagte ide drives and its been fine. at home i have virtually all maxtor, running 24 7. to this day i have yet to have a maxtor fail. had an ibm deathstar fail, but the travelstar in my laptop is great. i guess a lot is down to personal experience, but when i worked in a computer shop our returns rate was higher on wd and fujitsu and these were sold as budget models as apposed to maxtor \ ibm \ seagate which were sold as premium models. when your shifting 50-150 units a week depending on time of year you get an idea of which drives work and which dont.

fudge ide drives are poor, excelstore is poor. maxtor ibm etc are all perfectly fine with the exception of one range of ibms.

as for you knowing about hard drives, your 13 lol, that doesnt equate to a lot of years of experience. Maybe you should impart some knowledge to your staff, more specifically the rules as making offers in repsonse to requests. i have a pm sat in my box from your company offering something i explicity asked not to recieve.

maxtors are great drives with a proven good track record. if they were as bad as you claim, how come they are still in business?

ChickenSteak
11-29-2002, 07:23 PM
Rich age dosen't matter for one. As for your question how are maxtor still in business? Thats like asking how is C eye Host still in business. As far as *my* staff there not *mine*, anyways anyone from RE who pm's people are people who have made an request if they haven't you wont get anything. Email me what your complaining about brandon@rackeasy.com. Anyways let's keep this on topic.

Mesum
11-29-2002, 07:25 PM
Soooooo....... Did anyone else get any of em? :D

interactive
11-29-2002, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by richy
indeed, seagate make the best scsi, their ide isnt bad, we have a server with two seagte ide drives and its been fine. at home i have virtually all maxtor, running 24 7. to this day i have yet to have a maxtor fail. had an ibm deathstar fail, but the travelstar in my laptop is great. i guess a lot is down to personal experience, but when i worked in a computer shop our returns rate was higher on wd and fujitsu and these were sold as budget models as apposed to maxtor \ ibm \ seagate which were sold as premium models. when your shifting 50-150 units a week depending on time of year you get an idea of which drives work and which dont.

fudge ide drives are poor, excelstore is poor. maxtor ibm etc are all perfectly fine with the exception of one range of ibms.

as for you knowing about hard drives, your 13 lol, that doesnt equate to a lot of years of experience. Maybe you should impart some knowledge to your staff, more specifically the rules as making offers in repsonse to requests. i have a pm sat in my box from your company offering something i explicity asked not to recieve.

maxtors are great drives with a proven good track record. if they were as bad as you claim, how come they are still in business?


I don't think age has any effect. I got MCSE certified/A+ when I was 13 and got a job offer immediatly after that. I've been working in the computer industry for quiet a while. Like I said never had a problem with Deskstars. One other person I knew though did and it had to do with partitions. Anyways. Fuji or whatever and Quantum are probly the worst drives in the world.

secludo
11-29-2002, 07:48 PM
maybe I get deffective ones everytime or something but they always end up burning out or so in at most a month.

A month? Wow, I've been using the same 30GB Maxtor drive for over 3 years and it hasn't once given me a problem :D I'm replacing it in January, but only because I'm out of space.

richy
11-29-2002, 08:06 PM
sorry i just have no respect for that company. they dont obey rules on the forum and their opinion carries no weight with me. i worked in computing when i was 13, nearly 9 years ago now. i knew jack back then compared to what i know now, and ive spent a good 4 years dealing with components at a high turnover retail level. kids cant just come along and shoot their mouth off about how maxtor are rubbish. what kind of insane babble is that. they make great drives. they may not be the best there is, but they are more than acceptable. we only ever had problems with one series of deathstar drives and id happily put them in any server along with seagate or ibm. quantum \ excelstore \ fudge ide goes in over my dead body. we rarely ever got maxtors returned, the only one i remember was one where the owner bought a full rig and clunked it very heavily on a desk on the way out, sure enough he was back the next day with a drive that sounded like a motorbike. we put a batch of 100 machines into a school with excelstores at their techs request and got a 15% return rate doa, and 10% inside the first 30 days. Sufficed to say we never put them in again. theyre connors i think but dont hold me to it.
http://www.storagereview.com has some decent review etc. worth a look.

Mesum
11-29-2002, 08:14 PM
Hey guys, all I wanted was telling people some good gift for his/herself (I thought it was a good deal since I have 2 20s of em for last 3 1/2 years and never got any problem with them) and people starting to bashing each other about how less other person knows about the hardware.

ChickenSteak
11-29-2002, 08:19 PM
Richy who are you to say what my level of knowledge is? Also how don't we obey the rules? I advise you keep your mouth shut as it seem's your the one with an IQ of 20. My opinion is my opinion, and it is that maxtor's are crap. Enough said let's keep this on topic.

richy
11-29-2002, 08:21 PM
exactly, but some kids think its clever to say maxtors are rubbish. thnx for the heads up, shame they arent doing that in the uk :( 50 bucks for a drive i just paid 110 for, dollars that is lol.

and quite frankly age does matter, you cant have the years of experience that an older person could have.

sorry cross posted didnt catch that, how did you break the rules, not sure if i can spell it out clearer, i posted a request for a server, and one of your morons offered me something i had explicity asked not to recieve. as for having an iq of 20 , i somehow doubt that. anyone who can use a search button can see what your opinions worth.

ChickenSteak
11-29-2002, 08:27 PM
Richy I don't think it's clever to just *say* maxtors are crap, but in my opinion they are but in no way do I think saying that is *clever*. Also age matters in diffrent aspects of life for diffrent people. Can you program in c, c++, php, mysql? I seriously doubt you can. There are young people out there such as me who are smarter then most adults. The major factor age has on people is maturity, and it sure dosen't look like it slapped you yet for you saying your 22.

Edit: Richy there is no rule against not offering the correct thing. The rule is for space, bandwidth, etc let me quote it:

Due to many complaints, which we feel are warranted, replies to the requests must match requirements of the thread starter. Any offers not matching will be removed, we've also come to stage now that after this warning we will start suspending accounts who violate this request at our discretion. In addition, pricing, bandwidth and diskspace quotas not within 30% of the original request will be considered a violation. If you can't match the request, then please don't bother posting, it's quite simple really.
Your most recent request: As part of my companies continued expansion its my duty to procure the following. We are looking elsewhere from our normal suppliers due to their recent behavior regarding withdrawing certain control panels.

Managed dedicated cpanel \ whm server required.
Multihomed Only.
Good solid fast expandable Server, fast p3 or p4. min 512 mb ram with options one off to expand to minimum 1.5 gb. 60\80 gb hdd with backup solution, 2nd hdd acceptable backup if you guarantee security as part of your managed work.
Bandwidth has to decent multihomed from at least 3 providers. Amount is up to you.
Ip's , dont mind paying monthly for them but would not be happy with a large setup ala rackshack. No restrictions either.
No new startup companies. please provide details of your company and its age.
24 7 live support is a MUST. no phone a dc tech at the colo for reboots.
Must be a good dc.
Ip's to trace please and a trace out from your network to uk telehouse would be a nice touch (feel free to pm me your ips if you dont want to broadcast them).
As regards cost and setup fees i shall leave this up to you. I dont mind a setup fee that reduces the monthly if i feel the company isnt going anywhere. We are an expanding company and we will be purchasing more servers.So what that means is if he offered you a celeron and you said no celerons thats not against the rules, perhaps you need to read correctly.

richy
11-29-2002, 08:33 PM
my first degree was multimedia systems design, graduated uclan '02, now doing a degree in software engineering, c yes, c++ yes, php not well enough to claim i can, PLSQL yes, Java yes, asm yes but not for a while, cobol yes but again not since i worked for the council. only 21 tho, said nearly 9 years, 13 plus nearly 9 = 21. oh also fitted in a few years for dupont in labs along the way to try my hands at science. got up to designing catalysts but decided to head back to computing.
am i smarter then most people, i wouldnt say, theres plenty smarter then me, theres plenty dumber. as for maturity, i have first hand statistical proof from working in the industry as regards drive quality so yes i will call you when you slate maxtor who by the majority of peoples opinions are a fine company.
end of debate.

richy
11-29-2002, 08:35 PM
and no he made an offering for a non fully managed server. think its about time this was taken to email.
If you can't match the request, then please don't bother posting, it's quite simple really.

ChickenSteak
11-29-2002, 08:38 PM
Richy 13 + 9 is 22 not 21. Now heres your project in c++. You have five minutes to complete a small color simulator. Three buttons red, green, blue, and clear. You press red it makes the window red, you press green it makes the window green, you press blue it makes the window blue, and you press clear and it makes it normal color. your time starts at. 7:40 (1min)

sigma
11-29-2002, 08:38 PM
Of course, the technology in drives is constantly changing, as are the suppliers, assembly techniques, quality controls, etc. So if Company A is crap one year, they might be fine the next. IBM used to make some great drives - but then they turned out several models with incredibly high failure rates. I mean stratospheric. It made the news. Go read about it.

Similarly, Quantum was great a few years ago. Then they allegedly started putting lots of RMA'ed stock into the channel, with bad results. A drive that might do OK as a DOS/Win partition isn't going to be suitable for a 24x7 Unix server.

The best drive I've ever owned, and I've been through thousands of them literally, was my 200MB Connor - oh, look, you can still buy them:

http://www.pcperipherals.com/description.php?II=104

Kevin

richy
11-29-2002, 09:03 PM
lol just to help you, nearly 9 != 9 it = <9 .: 13 + <9 = <22 == 21.
im on the laptop right now so no compiler, lol sorry but at 1 am im not getting outta bed to use a machine with a c++ compiler. however im just replying to your mail so ill include some of the c code from my unis ftp.

just outta interest, how on earth can they afford to do it? they must loose money on the drives. ok they wont sell that many of them, but they must be selling at cost or below?

ChickenSteak
11-29-2002, 09:05 PM
Yes I know that but why supply 9 if it's not 9? I did the math for 9 ;). I'll look forward to the code.

richy
11-29-2002, 09:16 PM
sigma i think i have one of those, black number right :) ill have a look tomorrow lol. if its in the machine i think it is it still works.

ps email sent, found the drive, link to pic attached lol. is actually a 200 mb connor as well:) and still working.
connor (http://members.aol.com/rpm20003x/connor.jpg)

sigma
11-30-2002, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by richy
sigma i think i have one of those, black number right :) ill have a look tomorrow lol. if its in the machine i think it is it still works.

ps email sent, found the drive, link to pic attached lol. is actually a 200 mb connor as well:) and still working.
connor (http://members.aol.com/rpm20003x/connor.jpg)

Yep, that's the one. And when I bought it was the biggest you could get. I put it in my original PC with its 386sx booster card...

Sorry, back to your flamewar, enjoy.

Kevin

Acroplex
11-30-2002, 01:48 AM
Bah, I remember when my dad got his first 8086 with a huge 20Mb Seagate :D

richy
11-30-2002, 10:18 AM
lol rll and mfm drives. back in the days when it was 2\3\40 mb. used to have an apricot xeni with a 20 lol.

cabalstudios
11-30-2002, 01:43 PM
From our experience, Maxtor are not crap, though your bound to find some hdd which are bad, as with everything you buy.

We use primarily Seagate and WD
IMO how can you call them "crap/rubbish"?, I would love to see you try to make them any better.

You can’t call them crap/rubbish unless you have made them better.... It’s like saying the BMW is rubbish because it broke down on the highway the other night... lol

I agree with richy 100%, must be a first ;)
Put your money where your mouth is.

richy
11-30-2002, 02:05 PM
lol to be fair weve only really talked about religion and politics before so id be supirsed if we did agree much ;)

interactive
11-30-2002, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by cabalstudios
From our experience, Maxtor are not crap, though your bound to find some hdd which are bad, as with everything you buy.

We use primarily Seagate and WD
IMO how can you call them "crap/rubbish"?, I would love to see you try to make them any better.

You can’t call them crap/rubbish unless you have made them better.... It’s like saying the BMW is rubbish because it broke down on the highway the other night... lol

I agree with richy 100%, must be a first ;)
Put your money where your mouth is. \

Its called comparing. When I say/mean that WD/Seagate IDE's are crap I'm comparing them to other manufactures. This doesn't mean I can make better drives myself. I'm just saying. I've had lots of them die on me and lots of other problems, so I come from experience. Again just my worthless 2 pennies..


My 10 cents my 2 cents is free! ;)

Acroplex
11-30-2002, 09:29 PM
Well scr3w all dat :D

My drive will be here on Tuesday so see y'all after the format and installation of windblows :D

Mesum
12-01-2002, 04:17 AM
Well, just got mine by AirBorn today and it's working great!

DJiMPaCT
12-02-2002, 10:40 AM
Did anyone else get their order canceled? I just got an e-mail today saying they were out of stock.

Acroplex
12-02-2002, 11:48 AM
Mine's due to arrive on Tuesday.

BTW, Mesum do you think the double rebate will be an issue?

Mesum
12-02-2002, 03:21 PM
No man, here is the response I got from them:

"...Since they are going to the same addres and both rebates require the original UPC, simply fill out both forms and and mail thento the address provided with a single UPC and the receipt "

I have done this before too, I send the original one to the bigger rebate and smaller one a copy saying "ogirinal UPC was sent to rebate #?????" and I did my rebates.

Just don't think that you will be able to get em untill the end of next 2 months or so.

Acroplex
12-02-2002, 03:24 PM
Thanks for the clarification; the department of Maxtor I called on Saturday was of no help as they didn't have that in their database yet.

I got a rebate from ATI after 4 months once!

Acroplex
12-03-2002, 10:37 PM
woohoo the drive's here, gotta fdisk and brb.