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enotchnet 01-22-2010, 01:46 PM I know that there was a big thread not too long ago on this topic but I am looking for more specific experiences from hosts that migrated from other control panels i.e HyperVM, etc to either of these two control panel choices.
What were some of the gotcha or heartache moments?
User Interface - How flexible are the UI's of these CPs?
vePortal seems to be a bit more active but this could be good or bad compared to the release schedule of SolusVM. - What are your thoughts?
We have been testing and wanted to get feedback on these options to help with the decision making process.
I look forward and appreciate any response(s) provided!
njoker555 01-22-2010, 03:03 PM We currently use SolusVM and we like it a lot. Wanted to try out VePortal but never had the chance. I did get to use it on the client side and was not a big fan of it but it was a while ago, I don't even remember everything about it.
Right now we are used to the UI of SolusVM. But with enough time, you'd get used to anything. I never thought I'd get the hang of all those vBulletin options but after a short time, I know my way around there with ease.
VG11489 01-22-2010, 04:27 PM Trying SolusVM from a customer's perspective, its nice, easy to use and simplistic. I haven't tried VePortal as of yet.
BTCentral - Ben 01-22-2010, 04:53 PM I love SolusVM, both from a customer & system administrator point of view.
So easy to use, setup & configure :) - a really well designed piece of software.
IGXHost 01-22-2010, 05:19 PM SolusVM was much more user-friendly to me compared to VePortal.
DashingHost 01-22-2010, 07:22 PM I would also have to agree that SolusVM is a great and easy-to-use piece of software from both a customer and sysadmin point of view. It is extremely fast and responsive, and is very easy to install and configure to your needs.
enotchnet 01-22-2010, 09:13 PM Thanks for all of the responses.
How was the migration experience for you?
IGXHost 01-22-2010, 11:38 PM That may just be your provider. Most providers would at least provide a control panel for the VPS itself even if the service is unmanaged or semi-managed.
DashingHost 01-22-2010, 11:47 PM No, a VPS provider makes the decision as to whether or not you get access to a VPS management panel. The type of management offered with the VPS does not really matter. Some providers just choose not to use one for some reason.
QuickWeb-Roel 01-23-2010, 04:00 AM I have a question, if VPS is semi-manage, it will not have Panel?
I using VPS in appvz.com, it is Semi-manage, and I only manage by SSH, no panel.
Maybe they are reseller so they do not provide you with VPS control panel access...
We use SolusVM, rocks solid, great developer support, easy to use and maintain you won't go wrong with them... so i suggest for got it :agree: they also have migration hypervm migration tool.
inspiron 01-23-2010, 08:09 AM Yeap, I have heard so many good reviews about SolusVM than vePortal.
chhost-VPS 01-23-2010, 10:27 AM Solusvm always be our first priority! Good support, active development team!
I like SolusVM better than vePortal. :)
BTW, What about FluidVM from the viewpoint of the providers?
Matt - Kerplunc 01-23-2010, 05:33 PM We use SolusVM and love it. Gave vePortal a try when we were looking at alternatives to HyperVM, found that SolusVM did a much better job from both the admin and client perspective
BurstNET 01-23-2010, 11:57 PM 100+ nodes running vePortal...absolutely love it.
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enotchnet 01-24-2010, 01:18 AM 100+ nodes running vePortal...absolutely love it.
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Thanks for your reply. I am interested to know your experience for migrating containers between nodes. The cluster configuration doesn't seem to be mentioned much in the vePortal features, wiki or forum threads....so any real world be great.
Obviously a big VPS will take a few mins to copy depending on your network config.
BurstNET 01-24-2010, 01:47 AM vePortal migrate feature works fine, we use it daily, and it is not part of clustering, and is just a normal function of their panel.
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Dougy 01-24-2010, 10:18 AM SolusVM is my choice, but I just have used that.
[JSH]John 01-24-2010, 11:26 AM I prefer SolusVM out of them both.
macaws 01-24-2010, 02:00 PM Hi,
I don't have much experience with the back-ends of these softwares, but I do know that vePortal is a bit buggy. SolusVM from the client's perspective would be the easiest choice.
wormy 01-27-2010, 04:26 PM I am currently running trials of both solus and veportal. I noticed something odd in solus on one particular page:
http://i48.tinypic.com/vwq26e.png
I assume that my bandwidth monitoring applet are broken along with the "VPS disk usage" and "VPS memory" applets so keeping that in mind I donno if anyone can claim VePortal is less buggy than SolusVM. But bugs aside can anyone explain to me what the point would be to know the summation of burst ram and guaranteed ram? This isn't even a bug, it's a "feature" that was hardcoded by the Solus team. :rolleyes:
njoker555 01-27-2010, 04:42 PM I am currently running trials of both solus and veportal. I noticed something odd in solus on one particular page:
http://i48.tinypic.com/vwq26e.png
I assume that my bandwidth monitoring applet are broken along with the "VPS disk usage" and "VPS memory" applets so keeping that in mind I donno if anyone can claim VePortal is less buggy than SolusVM. But bugs aside can anyone explain to me what the point would be to know the summation of burst ram and guaranteed ram? This isn't even a bug, it's a "feature" that was hardcoded by the Solus team. :rolleyes:
You need to set up a cron for the bandwidth to be counted there. The solusvm wiki page has the commands.
As for adding the burst and guaranteed RAM, I can't comment too much on that since It confuses me as well at times. At first I thought it was just to tell you how much you've been overselling but even if you don't put extra burst, it'll still add on the burst (e.g. 256mb) there. I don't pa attention to that though.
Other than that, I think solusvm is still pretty good - gets the job done.
wormy 01-27-2010, 04:57 PM You need to set up a cron for the bandwidth to be counted there. The solusvm wiki page has the commands.
As for adding the burst and guaranteed RAM, I can't comment too much on that since It confuses me as well at times. At first I thought it was just to tell you how much you've been overselling but even if you don't put extra burst, it'll still add on the burst (e.g. 256mb) there. I don't pa attention to that though.
Other than that, I think solusvm is still pretty good - gets the job done.
If someone wanted to know how much they were overselling then they would subtract the guaranteed ram from the burst ram, not add them both up. It's mind boggling firstly as to why someone presumably with a post-grade school math education would not realize that and secondly as to why they would not correct it in succeeding version of solus. My guess is it's a sloppy disjointed "group effort" and nobody really cares enough to correct it. I shudder to think about how many potential security bugs are being brushed aside by the coders if this is their attitude towards covering up something that makes them look like clowns.
Anyway, I'm going to ignore this blooper against my better judgement and keep testing it and comparing it to Veportal which I am also running. :(
hertzwebsolutions 01-27-2010, 06:13 PM If someone wanted to know how much they were overselling then they would subtract the guaranteed ram from the burst ram, not add them both up. It's mind boggling firstly as to why someone presumably with a post-grade school math education would not realize that and secondly as to why they would not correct it in succeeding version of solus. My guess is it's a sloppy disjointed "group effort" and nobody really cares enough to correct it. I shudder to think about how many potential security bugs are being brushed aside by the coders if this is their attitude towards covering up something that makes them look like clowns.
Anyway, I'm going to ignore this blooper against my better judgement and keep testing it and comparing it to Veportal which I am also running. :(
If it bothers you just submit a ticket, their Support Department will be more than happy to assist.
My personal view is that the panel works (all features) great and has done since their initial public release, something as small as this isn't worth losing sleep over.
wormy 01-27-2010, 06:36 PM If it bothers you just submit a ticket, their Support Department will be more than happy to assist.
My personal view is that the panel works (all features) great and has done since their initial public release, something as small as this isn't worth losing sleep over.
I'm not in the least bit bothered by this oddity in of itself. What bothers me is the thought that if they could produce something which has such a blatently visible sign of incompetence then what other hidden blunders could they have they made which might end up getting people's servers compromised the same way hyperVM bugs got so many nodes compromised.
If I were to make a ticket asking them to remove this pointless feature it would do absolutely nothing to ease my suspicion that their coding is dangerously sloppy.
hertzwebsolutions 01-27-2010, 06:42 PM I'm not in the least bit bothered by this oddity in of itself. What bothers me is the thought that if they could produce something which has such a blatently visible sign of incompetence then what other hidden blunders could they have they made which might end up getting people's servers compromised the same way hyperVM bugs got so many nodes compromised.
If I were to make a ticket asking them to remove this pointless feature it would do absolutely nothing to ease my suspicion that their coding is dangerously sloppy.
With regards to vePortal you could say the same... Some of their features (beta and not working status) and the previous security scares they've had. I wouldn't make accusations you can't backup, your 'suspicions' are harsh to say the very least and could easily be said of most other panels on the market for one reason or another...
I'm not here to sling mud as I said in another thread I think they're both a credit to the vps panel market. I chose SolusVM right from their first release and I haven't looked back, some have chosen vePortal and also not looked back.
ITEXPERTS-Vimal 01-27-2010, 07:24 PM VePortal is much better now with Version 2.1.900
Soluslabs 01-27-2010, 07:25 PM I am currently running trials of both solus and veportal. I noticed something odd in solus on one particular page:
http://i48.tinypic.com/vwq26e.png
I assume that my bandwidth monitoring applet are broken along with the "VPS disk usage" and "VPS memory" applets so keeping that in mind I donno if anyone can claim VePortal is less buggy than SolusVM. But bugs aside can anyone explain to me what the point would be to know the summation of burst ram and guaranteed ram? This isn't even a bug, it's a "feature" that was hardcoded by the Solus team. :rolleyes:
Those bars will only show if the node is xen based. It's not a bug.
hertzwebsolutions 01-27-2010, 07:28 PM Those bars will only show if the node is xen based. It's not a bug.
OpenVZ based node... Not Xen ;-)
wormy 01-27-2010, 07:38 PM Those bars will only show if the node is xen based. It's not a bug.
They shouldn't show at all if the functionality is not there. It's not that hard to make them invisible if the platform solusvm is installed on doesn't support it. Unfortunately though it seems that they are supposed to be there and also of course supposed to be working with openvz which they don't.
hertzwebsolutions 01-27-2010, 07:45 PM They shouldn't show at all if the functionality is not there.
Again the same could be said of vePortal.
wormy 01-27-2010, 09:21 PM Again the same could be said of vePortal.
And if true the same should be said of VePortal. Repeatedly. There is absolutely nothing wrong with criticising a product in a public medium because as far as consumers are concerned we can only benefit by it. Either the coders will improve the product or the consumers will move to a better control panel after some good old bashing exposes flaws we might not even be aware of.
hertzwebsolutions 01-27-2010, 09:23 PM And if true the same should be said of VePortal. Repeatedly. There is absolutely nothing wrong with criticising a product in a public medium because as far as consumers are concerned we can only benefit by it. Either the coders will improve the product or the consumers will move to a better control panel after some good old bashing exposes flaws we might not even be aware of.
Amen to that, a fair statement, the likes of are rarely seen on this forum.
SunShellNET 01-28-2010, 04:26 AM Hi
3 pages of posts and just 2 posts in favor of VePortal ?
Seems like SolusVM is doing some magic !!
QuickWeb-Roel 01-28-2010, 04:44 AM Hi
3 pages of posts and just 2 posts in favor of VePortal ?
Seems like SolusVM is doing some magic !!
Well it seems unless you have more than 100 nodes then you won't have problem with vePortal :D
hosteur 01-28-2010, 04:48 AM Well it seems unless you have more than 100 nodes then you won't have problem with vePortal :D
Lol... This is another story... And it just a money purpose like mentionned...
keserhosting 01-28-2010, 09:34 AM Most of vote are leaning towards SolusVM. Its seems SolusVM rocks.
james_2020 01-29-2010, 07:47 AM hi WHT members, I vote for easy to use SOLUSVM and its more cheaper than vePortal
SunShellNET 01-29-2010, 07:50 AM its more cheaper than vePortal
Ya, I think most of the above posters missed this point.
enotchnet 01-30-2010, 04:29 PM It would be great to hear examples of peoples migration experience with SolusVM. After looking on their forum and places like here: http://forum.soluslabs.com/showthread.php?332-about-hypervm-migration, it just looks like migrating to SolusVM with our volume would be a nightmare. I may be wrong here so looking to the community for their experiences.
The vePortal migration process looks so simplistic. It almost looks as if you could do this during a lunch hour. :) - Just kidding.
MattS 01-30-2010, 04:47 PM I have played with both, and as said before I chose SolusVM because it met my needs better. In fact, ever since I migrated away from HyperVM and had some tickets (which btw the staff is top notch and awesome), I have been loving the SolusVM interface even more and more, plus there's a bonus, it's customizable! Yes you can skin it to make it look and feel how you wish :)
BurstNET 01-30-2010, 06:06 PM I have been loving the SolusVM interface even more and more, plus there's a bonus, it's customizable! Yes you can skin it to make it look and feel how you wish :)
...as is vePortal since day one pretty much...they had feature since long ago.
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BurstNET 01-30-2010, 06:08 PM Lol... This is another story... And it just a money purpose like mentionned...
Story? NO...it is FACT.
150+ vePortal nodes on our network currently and rising daily...
Our recommendation has nothing to do with money, and everything to do for the product working well for us.
I assure you, if it was not working well for us, we would not be recommending it to others, let alone sticking with it.
We are not going to risk our fast growing VPS business on something that is not working, that would make zero sense...
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ITEXPERTS-Vimal 01-30-2010, 06:23 PM Am quite fed of these type of post every few days.. It has become a business of trashing VePortal here (Nothing to do with them)
SolusVm customers sings praise of them that's very good, but no praises of VePortal does not mean the script is bad. It could be that most of their customers are not on WHT also.
I have been with VePortal and am happy with the program. Every program has bugs. They have worked close with their customers to sort out problems. they are really quick to issue fixes once it is confirmed.
VePortal has become a much advanced script which is really great now.
dedivirtual 01-31-2010, 09:36 AM never tried vePortal however it looks promising and loaded with features.
I best feature I liked when I saw its demo was 1 click install of cPanel and DirectAdmin. :)
I'm using SolusVM on 3 nodes and it works pretty fine for me. neat & clean, Professional Design and easy to understand. :)
Gryal 01-31-2010, 07:21 PM We are using SolusVM, its very good and easy to handle even the support is very good. No control panel can be compared to Solusvm. :)
lbakalinsky 02-01-2010, 05:27 PM We are using SolusVM, its very good and easy to handle even the support is very good. No control panel can be compared to Solusvm. :)
What about Virtuozzo? Don't forget that it is thanks to their grace that we have such an amazing virtualization enviroment to work with. Also, have you tried every type of openvz based control panel to come to such a conclusion? If not, I think you should retract your post and apologize to the community and the OP for wasting precious thread space. This goes to all WHT members who have been using these forums as a battleground and a means to slander a competitive product. I think that many of you have completely lost sight of what the OP originally wanted to find out. Should he use SolusVM or vePortal, and why? Tell him about your experience with working with each product. If you didn't try one of them then don't trash that product. If you had a problem with an older release, then tell the OP which version you had difficulty with; as the issue may have been resolved long ago. That's all I have to say for now folks. Just be nice.
dedivirtual 02-05-2010, 05:29 AM I love the new feature of SolusVM, you can see Loads for each VPS separately under a single page with numbers and graphs, :)
This new feature is awesome, :)
BurstNET 02-05-2010, 05:53 AM I love the new feature of SolusVM, you can see Loads for each VPS separately under a single page with numbers and graphs, :)
This new feature is awesome, :)
vePortal has had that feature for months, and it is quite useful indeed.
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janak 02-05-2010, 06:09 AM SolusVM is more user-friendly. Support is very good. It is cheaper than vePortal.
Soluslabs 02-05-2010, 08:47 AM Most of our clients seem to love the reverse DNS and clustering features.
james_2020 02-05-2010, 09:23 AM oh.. maybe i will change to solusvm...
hostun208 02-05-2010, 10:53 AM we started using solusvm, so far so good
dedivirtual 02-05-2010, 11:35 AM vePortal has had that feature for months, and it is quite useful indeed.
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yep, but vePortal is about 1.5 time expansive of SolusVM.
SolusVM is cheaper and awesome functions. vePortal is also good but a little bit expansive.
I never tried vePortal but if Price of vePortal comes equal to SolusVM, I will definitely prefer veportal, :)
Also, can anyone confirm if vePortal works with both openvz container and XEN [paravirtual and KVM] ?
SolusLabs-RichardM 02-05-2010, 11:38 AM Also, can anyone confirm if vePortal works with both openvz container and XEN [paravirtual and KVM] ?
vePortal only support OpenVZ, though I'm sure Donna will be able to tell you whether they plan to support Xen or KVM or both in the future.
dedivirtual 02-05-2010, 11:45 AM vePortal only support OpenVZ, though I'm sure Donna will be able to tell you whether they plan to support Xen or KVM or both in the future.
Ah, SolusVM supports both openVZ and XEN, but not KVM.
I've to use VirtPanel for my Windows VPS nodes cluster and SolusVM for Linux VPS nodes cluster.
As soon as SolusVM starts supporting KVM, I can use all VPS nodes cluster under one Panel, That would be amazing, :D
SolusLabs-RichardM 02-05-2010, 11:47 AM Ah, SolusVM supports both openVZ and XEN, but not KVM.
I've to use VirtPanel for my Windows VPS nodes cluster and SolusVM for Linux VPS nodes cluster.
As soon as SolusVM starts supporting KVM, I can use all VPS nodes cluster under one Panel, That would be amazing, :D
We're hoping to have KVM support within 3-6 months, though if we can sooner we will.
dedivirtual 02-05-2010, 11:52 AM We're hoping to have KVM support within 3-6 months, though if we can sooner we will.
I really love your VPS Panel. Its amazing, :)
Just missing the KVM support, i have to buy a different Panel for that.
Well, Just waiting for that, :)
Also, One thing more, the new version have nice theme, :)
SolusLabs-RichardM 02-05-2010, 11:53 AM The Admin/Client default themes will be concentrated on in greater detail soon, the current theme is indeed much better than the previous but we're still not over pleased with it. Still, glad you like it!
dedivirtual 02-05-2010, 12:01 PM The Admin/Client default themes will be concentrated on in greater detail soon, the current theme is indeed much better than the previous but we're still not over pleased with it. Still, glad you like it!
That's the thing i like, the Development Spirit ! That's why your Panel seems more ahead of the other panels.
Anyways, good luck. let's see what next releases bring to us, :)
enotchnet 02-05-2010, 12:20 PM So since we started this thread we've been testing both panels in our lab to see what the experience would be like for SolusVM or vePortal in our environment.
For starters cost does not matter. I see some folks say "if cost was equal then I would consider it". Are you serious? If you want to complain about cost try Virtuozzo, try moving 500+ VE's to them. Anything that does not charge you per VE is affordable in my book.
Based on what I have seen both control panels are pretty good.
SolusVM has a pretty good interface but you can skin it so why does this make it any better than vePortal which you can also "skin" and theme as per your requirements. I will say that vePortal has a much simpler interface out of the box and the features are not outlined very well so you will need to click around to find some things.
SolusVM also has DNS management which I think is a big plus. However, SolusVM starts to fall down when it comes to migration from one panel to another - at least under OpenVZ. The migration process is terrible to say the least. The fact that you need another console username makes no sense to me why not build the functionality so it connects to that users IP and then they can login as they would normally with putty or any other ssh program? The sequential VE increment of ‘1’ and the inability to change it is also annoying.
The concept that having a username which is your hostname and you have no way to change it also does not sit well with me.
The WHMCS module for SolusVM is by far one of the worst software products for WHMCS I have seen released. We do not use auto provisioning but this module does not make it any easier for us to consider it. So this is a problem because we would likely have to build our own WHMCS module for this and by looking around on the forums it doesn’t look as if a new and improved one is coming anytime soon.
The times we reached out to SolusVM support the tickets were responded to very quickly.
I also love the fact that SolusVM has given some thought to providing explicit support and recommendation for hosts to serve the control panel in a VM or outside of the cluster in their pricing model or just in general.
vePortal stands out when it comes to migrations and it doesn't matter from which CP. Our test migration of 100 test VE's was so seamless that we literally tried it over from scratch and again it surpassed our expectations. This is a clear indication that if we try to migrate the remaining population that it will be pretty seamless.
vePortal does not offer any DNS management.
Our tests show that vePortal will perform much faster that SolusVM will under load even on a node that is also serving VM’s. I have also tried leaving the admin consoles logged in up just to see if my session will time out and my session times out after about an hour with vePortal but it never times out with SolusVM. I prefer vePortal in that regard.
vePortal support was also "OK" in their response times, etc.
Now with both panels there are some features that I am missing:
I am not seeing the VE graph usage page in vePortal. I see it in SolusVM and I saw that @BURST mentions that its there but I don't see it. - I am sure its just me.
Change Location - HyperVM had this feature where you can change the private directory storage volume of a VE without having to shut down the VE.
Welcome Emails - I am not seeing a way in either control panel to send a welcome email to the client upon VE creation or to send a client another copy of their welcome information post VE creation. Unless I am mistaken I think this is a big problem. I do see the email templates there in both CP’s. However, it looks as if SolusVM sends you your welcome email after you login to the panel and so they rely on WHMCS to send the welcome email. It looks as if vePortal sends the email upon creation but this is not working for me so I cannot confirm.
This is just our experience with testing these two CP’s in a quasi production environment with real loading with the assistance of a few of our beta testers.
SolusLabs-RichardM 02-05-2010, 12:43 PM However, SolusVM starts to fall down when it comes to migration from one panel to another - at least under OpenVZ. The migration process is terrible to say the least.
I'm disappointed to hear you're unhappy with the migration process with OpenVZ, however as we have two-three different methods available I'd like to know which migration instruction/method you used? Also if you wouldn't mind explaining in further detail as to how you feel the process was terrible I'd appreciate it, feel free to reply here or submit a ticket regarding this or email me personally on richardm@soluslabs.com
The fact that you need another console username makes no sense to me why not build the functionality so it connects to that users IP and then they can login as they would normally with putty or any other ssh program? The sequential VE increment of ‘1’ and the inability to change it is also annoying.
I'll get confirmation from Phill but the sequential VEID increments was flagged for changing, ie being customisable. With regards to the console username this was intended as a security feature.
The concept that having a username which is your hostname and you have no way to change it also does not sit well with me.
Is this following migration or using the WHMCS module? The username during manual VM setup/addition can be set to (within reason) anything you wish.
The WHMCS module for SolusVM is by far one of the worst software products for WHMCS I have seen released. We do not use auto provisioning but this module does not make it any easier for us to consider it. So this is a problem because we would likely have to build our own WHMCS module for this and by looking around on the forums it doesn’t look as if a new and improved one is coming anytime soon.
There are currently a large number of clients using the module without issue; with that said the module and API are being rewritten and should be released shortly after Xen HVM which is due out within 5-7 days.
The times we reached out to SolusVM support the tickets were responded to very quickly.
Thank you for your kind words regarding Support, we do our best to go above and beyond for all clients who contact our Support Department.
I also love the fact that SolusVM has given some thought to providing explicit support and recommendation for hosts to serve the control panel in a VM or outside of the cluster in their pricing model or just in general.
Again, thank you.
Our tests show that vePortal will perform much faster that SolusVM will under load even on a node that is also serving VM’s. I have also tried leaving the admin consoles logged in up just to see if my session will time out and my session times out after about an hour with vePortal but it never times out with SolusVM. I prefer vePortal in that regard.
Again if you could provide me with further details regarding the issues you've seen with SolusVM as we would like to improve use this feedback to improve the product.
Now with both panels there are some features that I am missing:
Change Location - HyperVM had this feature where you can change the private directory storage volume of a VE without having to shut down the VE.
Welcome Emails - I am not seeing a way in either control panel to send a welcome email to the client upon VE creation or to send a client another copy of their welcome information post VE creation. Unless I am mistaken I think this is a big problem. I do see the email templates there in both CP’s. However, it looks as if SolusVM sends you your welcome email after you login to the panel and so they rely on WHMCS to send the welcome email. It looks as if vePortal sends the email upon creation but this is not working for me so I cannot confirm.
I'll speak with Phill about these for you and get back to you.
Thank you for the feedback provided, I'm sure vePortal will agree it's great to see a review with some flesh on its bones!
Gryal 02-05-2010, 01:17 PM What about Virtuozzo? Don't forget that it is thanks to their grace that we have such an amazing virtualization enviroment to work with. Also, have you tried every type of openvz based control panel to come to such a conclusion? If not, I think you should retract your post and apologize to the community and the OP for wasting precious thread space. This goes to all WHT members who have been using these forums as a battleground and a means to slander a competitive product. I think that many of you have completely lost sight of what the OP originally wanted to find out. Should he use SolusVM or vePortal, and why? Tell him about your experience with working with each product. If you didn't try one of them then don't trash that product. If you had a problem with an older release, then tell the OP which version you had difficulty with; as the issue may have been resolved long ago. That's all I have to say for now folks. Just be nice.
Hello
We used Virtuozzo. And we tried different openvz control panel before like virtpanel, hypervm, Panenthe. From this all I find solusvm better. AS for your panel while I saw lots of complaints and bug in your panel and never think to give a try.
BurstNET 02-05-2010, 01:40 PM SolusVM is more user-friendly.
That is a matter of opinion, not fact.
Support is very good.
Good to hear! We feel the same about vePortal...
It is cheaper than vePortal.
Yes, it is....$9.95 vs. $14.95
We feel vePortal is worth paying more due to large environment automation, as well as several new features/tools we are aware of coming out in the future.
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DD-Mark 02-05-2010, 02:40 PM weird most people say solusvm, but i like veportal...
BurstNET 02-05-2010, 04:05 PM Welcome Emails - I am not seeing a way in either control panel to send a welcome email to the client upon VE creation or to send a client another copy of their welcome information post VE creation. Unless I am mistaken I think this is a big problem. I do see the email templates there in both CP’s. However, it looks as if SolusVM sends you your welcome email after you login to the panel and so they rely on WHMCS to send the welcome email. It looks as if vePortal sends the email upon creation but this is not working for me so I cannot confirm
vePortal DOES indeed have welcome emails, and it is part of the WHMCS module as well. The welcome emails are controlled by the email templates for modification of the content of the welcome email. We do not use them ourselves, as we use the WHMCS welcome emails, but they are indeed there in the vePortal system.
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QuickWeb-Roel 02-05-2010, 04:26 PM SolusVM's Windows support is coming in about a week so this is a big plus for anyone considering a multi platform solutions that works!
SolusLabs-RichardM 02-05-2010, 04:35 PM The fact that you need another console username makes no sense to me why not build the functionality so it connects to that users IP and then they can login as they would normally with putty or any other ssh program?
Hi,
With regards to this the reason a username is given is that the console isn't regular SSH it allows you to access your VPS should you be locked out via iptables/firewall issues, it's not just regular old root SSH.
VW-Donna 02-06-2010, 07:56 PM SolusVM also has DNS management which I think is a big plus.
This is also a Work In Progress for vePortal, Most of the basics have been completed and vePortal is quite close to completion/release now. No Official ETA has been given by our development team as of yet.
SolusVM starts to fall down when it comes to migration from one panel to another.
vePortal Version 2.1.950 (Officially due for release within the next 7 days) Has a fully automated "Universal" migration feature, The ability to import VM's directly from the OpenVZ Interface including limits, hostnames etc
Thank you for the feedback provided, I'm sure vePortal will agree it's great to see a review with some flesh on its bones!
I couldnt have said it better myself, It is indeed a breath of fresh air to have something worth reading about the panels. And a true and fair neutral comparison between the two products :) And from us at vePortal Thankyou for the feedback :) All of which is taken on board and will be acted upon.
I saw lots of complaints and bug in your panel and never think to give a try.
I'm sure you will find if you ask specificly for bugs in the latest release of vePortal (v2.1.900) We have had a whole lot of praise that this version is without a doubt the best so far, All bugs are resolved, And only one very tiny bug report since its release (Over a week ago).
enotchnet 02-06-2010, 10:00 PM Hi,
With regards to this the reason a username is given is that the console isn't regular SSH it allows you to access your VPS should you be locked out via iptables/firewall issues, it's not just regular old root SSH.
Your explanation makes sense. It would help if you reversed the order on the console page. So you would show the 'console-username' instead of the console password. You can even build in some checks to toggle this depending on if the host has SSL enabled, etc.
I just think it would be better to have the console username displayed instead since the format is console-randomcharacters.
I also forwarded my email exchange to your email address as requested.
Soluslabs 02-06-2010, 10:27 PM Your explanation makes sense.
If the VPS loses networking or a firewall decides to play up and locks you out, you can still gain access via the serial console.
The serial console is a standard unix user on the host node that will drop you directly into the VPS just like vzctl enter would.
MattS 02-07-2010, 12:05 AM I know that there was a big thread not too long ago on this topic but I am looking for more specific experiences from hosts that migrated from other control panels i.e HyperVM, etc to either of these two control panel choices.
What were some of the gotcha or heartache moments?
User Interface - How flexible are the UI's of these CPs?
vePortal seems to be a bit more active but this could be good or bad compared to the release schedule of SolusVM. - What are your thoughts?
We have been testing and wanted to get feedback on these options to help with the decision making process.
I look forward and appreciate any response(s) provided!
I have tried both out first prior to making my decision, and well SolusVM won.
SolusVM gives you some wiggle room and also matches my desire to be simple yet powerful.
I love SolusVM's skinning ability, it's simple and uses a template system similar to WHMCS which is great because once you figure it out its not too bad. I never played with vePortal's skin abilities so can't comment on that.
A headache moment was installing SolusVM as you had to remove parts of HyperVM first and figuring out how to migrate (there's a few commands to run that will give you the container ID and such that will make it a breeze).
Opening a ticket was smooth, the staff are awesome in so many ways (they will help fix problems to get you through some hurtles)
Of course don't just take my word for it, play with it. I love SolusVM and will keep using it.
SolusLabs-RichardM 02-07-2010, 09:20 AM I also forwarded my email exchange to your email address as requested.
Hi,
I've not received anything as yet...
EmuHost-Pete 02-12-2010, 07:19 PM Something I have to say I like about veportal is being able to set resource limits from within whmcs.
BurstNET 02-12-2010, 07:48 PM Something I have to say I like about veportal is being able to set resource limits from within whmcs.
Yes, the new WHMCS module is AWESOME :agree:
Being able to use package and UBC sets for setups really helps a ton for automation.
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energetic 02-13-2010, 03:17 AM I prefer solous, just because of their excellent technical support :)
PsyHost 02-16-2010, 09:34 AM I would have to agree that SolusVM is a well designed piece of software, having used it for a few personal clients.
We trialled vePortal and SolusVM and decided that SolusVM was the way to go.
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