Since resellers can sell "reseller accounts", is there anyway to tell that you are puchasing from a secondary reseller rather than from the primary?

You can't really tell it though... but if you search it deeper, contact DC, trace ip, etc... you might succeed.

If you are the "second reseller" would you tell your prospective customers about that? I guess no.

I think you will struggle to find out. Try backtracing the IP.

if you want to resell.......the hosting..to your subresellers......then why you are going to track the reseller..........as you know your subreseller also have the same question for you................no matter a reseller is primary or secondary

is there anyway to tell that you are puchasing from a secondary reseller rather than from the primary?
Try to ask some questions that require server admin knowledge?
Like can you install custom dll on windows server. Can't think of any question for linux yet :D

It might be hard to tell unless asking directly from the customer service. I would suggest getting own reseller account and not a subreseller.

Hello,
As a host that provides this type of service (also known as Master Reseller Hosting), I can say that we do make it very hard to find out. This is actually our goal in most cases. There are a few ways that you can still find out however :D.


Ask the host to check to see if an IP Address is blocked (Just provide any valid IP Address). Master Resellers are normally not able to access the Firewall Interface and may take a bit longer to resolve because they have to contact the server owner.
Ask the host if they allow Jailed Shell Access. This is a wild card, there are some hosts who really do not allow shell access, however some are willing to provide with proper justification. Master resellers do not have this access.
From WHM create a new account, On the screen that is creating the account, you will see an e-mail address. Does this match your hosting company? Some root users will use an unbranded e-mail address, so this may or may not work.
Find the servers hostname via a phpinfo() command. This will sometimes be servername.realhost.com. Some root users will use an unbranded hostname.
Look for a Master Reseller Plugin. Do you see a program in WHM called "ZamFoo", "WHMPHP", or "WHMReseller". If so this is a good chance. Of course this could also mean the host is offering Master Reseller Hosting or investigating the ability to offer this.
Ask the host if they are a Master Reseller. A Legitimate Host should be honest. There is no shame at all in being a Master Reseller at all. If they do, do you want to be with a dishonest host?
May I ask why you are trying to find this out?

Hello,
As a host that provides this type of service (also known as Master Reseller Hosting), I can say that we do make it very hard to find out. This is actually our goal in most cases. There are a few ways that you can still find out however :D.


Ask the host to check to see if an IP Address is blocked (Just provide any valid IP Address). Master Resellers are normally not able to access the Firewall Interface and may take a bit longer to resolve because they have to contact the server owner.
Ask the host if they allow Jailed Shell Access. This is a wild card, there are some hosts who really do not allow shell access, however some are willing to provide with proper justification. Master resellers do not have this access.
From WHM create a new account, On the screen that is creating the account, you will see an e-mail address. Does this match your hosting company? Some root users will use an unbranded e-mail address, so this may or may not work.
Find the servers hostname via a phpinfo() command. This will sometimes be servername.realhost.com. Some root users will use an unbranded hostname.
Look for a Master Reseller Plugin. Do you see a program in WHM called "ZamFoo", "WHMPHP", or "WHMReseller". If so this is a good chance. Of course this could also mean the host is offering Master Reseller Hosting or investigating the ability to offer this.
Ask the host if they are a Master Reseller. A Legitimate Host should be honest. There is no shame at all in being a Master Reseller at all. If they do, do you want to be with a dishonest host?
May I ask why you are trying to find this out?


These are some very creative suggestions :agree:

Hello,
As a host that provides this type of service (also known as Master Reseller Hosting), I can say that we do make it very hard to find out. This is actually our goal in most cases. There are a few ways that you can still find out however :D.


Ask the host to check to see if an IP Address is blocked (Just provide any valid IP Address). Master Resellers are normally not able to access the Firewall Interface and may take a bit longer to resolve because they have to contact the server owner.
Ask the host if they allow Jailed Shell Access. This is a wild card, there are some hosts who really do not allow shell access, however some are willing to provide with proper justification. Master resellers do not have this access.
From WHM create a new account, On the screen that is creating the account, you will see an e-mail address. Does this match your hosting company? Some root users will use an unbranded e-mail address, so this may or may not work.
Find the servers hostname via a phpinfo() command. This will sometimes be servername.realhost.com. Some root users will use an unbranded hostname.
Look for a Master Reseller Plugin. Do you see a program in WHM called "ZamFoo", "WHMPHP", or "WHMReseller". If so this is a good chance. Of course this could also mean the host is offering Master Reseller Hosting or investigating the ability to offer this.
Ask the host if they are a Master Reseller. A Legitimate Host should be honest. There is no shame at all in being a Master Reseller at all. If they do, do you want to be with a dishonest host?
May I ask why you are trying to find this out?


nice questions to ask the hosting provider:agree:

mostly a starter hosting company, using master reseller as their service.
but you can trace their IP or check reverse DNS

You can also check the Server Information in WHM, this shows the host name, and all the info about the server. Very helpful.

Also see to it that you sign up directly with company and not a reseller, it will help you in long run.

Since resellers can sell "reseller accounts", is there anyway to tell that you are puchasing from a secondary reseller rather than from the primary?

I think, it's hard to find. You can always ask your host. Just anxious, is there any real benefit by knowing that?

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Like KDisk suggested, you may try those methods but the result may not be accurate. The ip address block trick is good but sometimes the server owner will respond quickly to the master resellers ticket or there may be a live chat facility available so that the master can just come to the server owner company site and get the ip unblocked within seconds

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I would suggest you to search thoroughly, ie, Tracerouting IP, etc..etc..

To be honest, as long as you are not having a problem, what is the issue with being the customer of a resellers reseller, or a resellers reseller reseller? I'd assume Markup may be a problem, but that being said, as long as the service is preforming as expected and you are paying what you believe to be a fair price, then roll with it.

Doing a reverse IP and traceroute may help you. If you prefer to deal with non-reseller web hosting companies, you can always go for companies that are reputable and known.

Telling the secondary reseller apart from the primary would be next to impossible unless the reseller tells you.

Doing a reverse IP and traceroute may help you

No it wont; a rever IP and traceroute at best will let you know who the actual hosting company is. At the end of the day; the primary and sub-reseller won't be distinguishable from that bit of information.

Yes, it's best to just ask them.

Personally, I wouldn't want to use a reseller of a reseller. I would prefer to use a reseller account from a company that leases or owns the dedicated server and has "Root Access" to it.

To be honest, as long as you are not having a problem, what is the issue with being the customer of a resellers reseller, or a resellers reseller reseller? I'd assume Markup may be a problem, but that being said, as long as the service is preforming as expected and you are paying what you believe to be a fair price, then roll with it.

True, many people new to hosting are using a reseller of a reseller and don't know about it, or maybe they do, but just don't care as long they receive a good service.