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NodeHost
11-26-2002, 05:33 PM
Offer closed due to issues with the old owner of Node Hosting/X9 Integrated, company has been sold. Sorry for any problems this may have caused.

123x
11-26-2002, 10:28 PM
IP PLS

wmac
11-27-2002, 02:17 PM
You tell www.nodehosting.com will be x9i.com very soon but when I try to see your new site it is empty and your previous domain redirects to http://www.1stamendmenthosting.com/

Your prices are great but I did not finally know who is the owner of the company. It is not easy to work with a company with so many identities.

I am looking for the exact thing you advertised but I don't think I can trust this.

ProNorthern
11-28-2002, 12:10 PM
Frank A = NodeHosting formerly Immenet Networks.

He's been ripping people off over and over again, he just keeps changing his name once he get's into a little bit of trouble with customers.

Customer support is nonexistant, oversells everything, offers the world and delivers nothing over and over again.

I was with Frank for about 6 months before he ripped me off and screwed me and my customers and shut down. :angry:

Hopefully he disappears from Hosting all together, I hate watching people get ripped off.

Regards,

ProNorthern

NodeHost
11-28-2002, 12:13 PM
And who are you, and what did he do to you?

Why do you not mention your name or site so that there is a chance to respond to this, as there are always 2 sides to every story?

One more point, if you really knew him, or what happened at Imme, you would know he was nothing but an employee at Imme, and had nothing to do with how it was ran, or had any decision on the business side of things there. Richard ran that, and after he closed it with no notice to the customers or employees, Frank then went on his own. Richard's answer to everyone wanting refunds was to contact Frank as he bought the equipment from there, and since he took the client base from there to get started on his own. He never got anything from Imme except for a paycheck, and more than me or Frank can vouch that Richard did alot of bad things to alot of people (including one of the partners of Node, Jeff) beyond what happened at Imme, and just tried to disappear after closing it. Basicly, knowing the inside to that situation, I do not see how having been an employee at a company prior to trying to start your own should effect or take you out because of how that company was ran. (I would not blame a single developer at Microsoft for all the bugs in every piece of software just becasue they worked there)

BTW - regardless of what you really know about Frank or the situations with him, or the company he had control over (Not Imme), Happy Thanksgiving to you.

ProNorthern
11-28-2002, 06:15 PM
What happened with Richard was a known issue, but Frank kept telling us over and over again about how much bandwidth they were pulling in, how many new servers were going online, moving from here to there, typical of a company that has no control nor real business sense.

Frank was the "Chief Technology Officer", obviously, he would have to know what was going on from time to time and would hopefully have had enough business sense to advise customers of the current situation. We could not even get that out of him. And then one day, our websites and e-mail were no longer working. A quick phone call to Frank to ask what was up, and he never returns your call. Figures.

I have been a CTO for about 4 years now and I know every single bit of grumblings and what not that occurs within our company. Even as a EVP I knew what was going on. If I knew something was going to happen that would "potentially" affect our customers, they would be advised.

We were also told when we signed up with them that they had on OC3? Well it was hardly that, it was a shared DS3 and we were lucky to get 130MS response times out of that.

Now Frank colocate's everything out of a Sprint NOC? Or is that no longer cause he screwed more customers.

We have now moved on to another provider that provides us with excellent customer service and advises us of every little problem or potential problem. No big outages in the last 2 years! With Frank we were down for well over a week with no explanation. Once again, no return on any phone calls.

And now he's changing names again, no sorry he's changing names even after that, so that makes 4 name changes in the last two years. I'd be nervous.

Regards,

ProNorthern

NodeHost
11-28-2002, 09:06 PM
Once again, we would like to know who you are......

We can not post what happened on our side with you, or even confirm or deny what is going on with you and your story without knowing who you are.

We were never on a shared DS-3, we were on a full one to ourself in the Sprint NOC, and it was widely known that is why we moved into downtown KC on our own lines because of the issues at the Sprint NOC at that time. No offense to Sprint, the facility was new, the bugs were not worked out at the time, and we found out later that we were the first ones to drop into there here in KC. We never pulled the OC-3 because of Southwestern Bell wanting over $10,000 for loop only per month, plus buildout to the location, not to mention the port charge. It was not within the bounds of the company budget and just could not do it.

Either way, it is no longer, but I would still like to see who you are and IF we ever even hosted you. At this point with the research I have done on you, I can find no ties to our company whatsoever, so I can not trust that you know what is going on.

As far as the IMME deal, I can not talk about what happened there as there is still a pending lawsuit there, and other issues with Richard and the whole mess.

ProNorthern
11-29-2002, 12:06 PM
Reseach you have done on me? Not much to find.

I hosted a few websites with Imme, then you shut down without any notification and I was stuck looking for an alternate provider.

So now the truth comes out though. It was only a DS3, not an OC3 as Frank stated to me. So much for having to suspend the fiber in the air, the OC3 switch being so hot that Frank had to wear firefighter mitts to handle it.

Man, you just dig yourself in so much deeper with every reply, because I am finally starting to figure out that Immenet and Frank were the biggest scam around.

Regards,

ProNorthern

P.S - This forum is about dedicated hosting, you want to continue this until you figure out who this is, please PM me.

Planetseti
11-30-2002, 02:44 AM
I was notified yesterday after making a offer to frank for a RAQ4 that the Department Of Justice is handling a fraud case against Nodehosting whether this allegation is valid that i do not know. But i personally can state the following Frank Arena has frauded customers, employees. People trusted him and he screwed them for everything to ignore this is only to ignore reality i was offered cash in the past to retract statements and since i was never paid i feel there is no reason to with hold such true comments.

Pursuant to my constitutional rights i will release the following:
*Nodehosting has never had a dedicated line of any sort.
*Nodehosting was based out of a apartment area with complimentary showers and all located of Wyandotte.
*Nodehosting has been both under Federal, State and Local investigation.
*Nodehosting has a very outstanding complaint record with the IFC and BBB.
*Nodehosting has neglected to pay employees wages and has neglected to pay back customers it over charged or who cancelled services.
*Nodehosting administration has sold servers they did not own.
*Nodehosting is not a legal business registered with any applicable state or federal agencies (I did some investigating)
*Nodehosting is surely liable for : Not Reporting Wages, Not Paying Wages, Electronic Fraud, Bad Checks, and various other crimes.

All statements above are of a factual basis and are released pursuant to my constitutional rights and pursuant to the freedom of information act. I am not under any non-disclosure policies and am aware of all related laws to such a disclosure.

If you have any information related to Nodehosting it is reccomended you provide it directly to the Federal Bureau of Investigation via www.ifccfbi.gov

I donot reccomend doing business with partners who may be involved in Nodehosting's Operations.
(Although I would say 1stAmmendmenthosting has there business running good i enjoyed working with mike during the last duration of my duties as systems admin.)

Planetseti
11-30-2002, 02:45 AM
And frank why talk in 3rd person when we both know you are making the posts.

1stamendment
11-30-2002, 03:03 AM
Pro N

If you would like to come back and give us a try and see It really is a new owner and things have changed I will offer you 100mb and 2 GB of transfer for 60 days. During those 60 days you will receive the same treatment as a paying customer. 1st Amendment Hosting took over Node because we are their largest reseller and did their support for them for the last 45 days before we bought the company from Frank. If you look at my recent posts you will see I have bought dedicated server space for cPanel, Win2k and IRC since they closed and all sites are being mygrated to these new servers. Once the mygration transfer is completed, nodehosting.com will become ownership of me and Frank will no longer have any involvement with the company. I am sorry if you feel you been burned in the past. I was not their to judge, but I want to make good on your feelings and offer you the above.

1stamendment
11-30-2002, 03:10 AM
Originally posted by Planetseti

Pursuant to my constitutional rights i will release the following:
*Nodehosting has never had a dedicated line of any sort.



I can verify that Node did indeed have a single T-1, anything past that I can not. But I did have several Conf calls with Frank and their Sprint Rep about transfering the circut with a life cut to here in California to keep the same IP range. Yes I do know it was really from Sprint has I have returned calls to his Sprint office.

[QOUTE]
I donot reccomend doing business with partners who may be involved in Nodehosting's Operations. [/QUOTE]

Ben, I do not understand why you would say that. When doing support for Node you know everytime you called us the phone was answered by myself or a staff member. nly time you did not receive an answer was when Frank had the phone calling back to Kanas City.

NodeHost
11-30-2002, 03:15 PM
*Nodehosting has never had a dedicated line of any sort.

-This is completely false, and can be backed up at any time whatsoever to anyone that ever had a question about anything.
Per ARIN and Sprint: http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl?queryinput=!%20NET-204-118-130-0-1

*Nodehosting was based out of a apartment area with complimentary showers and all located of Wyandotte.
Apartment, Shower, COMPLIMENTARY???

-You have no clue as to the building we are in as it is a "Executive Suite" building, not this apartment that you think. Our landlords page is here: http://www.kcicehouse.com/

*Nodehosting has been both under Federal, State and Local investigation.

-I have contacted the Department of Labor, the City of Kansas City, Missouri, the Secretary of the State of Missouri, AND the Department of Justice to try and verify your claim, and guess what, NO INVESTIGATIONS!!! Anyone can do this and find out that what I am saying is true.

*Nodehosting has a very outstanding complaint record with the IFC and BBB.

-We have one on file that was "informational only" and not deemed wrong with IFC and BBB - and guess who it was, YOU! The filing party was Ben K.!!!! No other complaints were ever filed, once again, this can be proven.
http://www.kansascity.bbb.org/commonreport.html?compid=99121432&national=Y

*Nodehosting has neglected to pay employees wages and has neglected to pay back customers it over charged or who cancelled services.

- Do you wanna make a bet on this? You are still pissed that we dropped a dedicated server provided to you because we got dos'ed every other day from people that you have pissed off! Yes you were getting this in trade, but also, we did not ask you for anything after dropping the server since we dropped our end of the contract. Alan has got his check, along with every other employee that has been promised a check ON TIME EVERY TIME!

*Nodehosting administration has sold servers they did not own.

- We have??? I do not ever remember selling anything that we do not own....

*Nodehosting is not a legal business registered with any applicable state or federal agencies (I did some investigating)

- Once again, guess what, FALSE!! We have a Federal Tax ID, State Incorporation Number (how else do we have a business checking account, need these to get that), and Liability Insurance though AllState. Man you make up so much sh*t that I do not know if you know what is true.

*Nodehosting is surely liable for : Not Reporting Wages, Not Paying Wages, Electronic Fraud, Bad Checks, and various other crimes.

- We are not liable for any of these or anything else. We had one (1) bad check when a chargeback came through at the wrong time (when we used 2checkout - was not notified), which was taken care of.

Ben, I am soooo happy that you have posted all of this here, and filed the BBB report, because now I have your address to file a deflamation case against you! Man I can not wait till Monday....

Also I ask, since when does the constitution grant you right to say what you want, when it is damaging to the character or can have fiscal impact on someone. Furthermore when you know what you are saying is NOT truth, to any extent? It does not. It protects the freedom of speech, but that does not mean you can lie and try to yell fire in a building full of people when there is no fire....

Planetseti
11-30-2002, 03:35 PM
Righty, Frank have a good one in court and its defamatory not deflamation. And the fac you only have Fictitious name registration and are not registered with the IRS or city of kansas city gives you 0 claim. But anyways you know where i live send the papers .

NodeHost
11-30-2002, 04:03 PM
And the fac you only have Fictitious name registration and are not registered with the IRS or city of kansas city

1) Kansas City does not have anything but a occupancy permit that you are required to obtain, we have one hanging on the wall as you are not allowed to have a office without one. I will scan it later and post it for the world to see.

2) We have a Incoproration in Missouri, number MO-239035 (S-Corp) filed by "Business Filings" out of Madison, WI which acts as our Registered Agent as they handle the paperwork and yearly filings with the state.

3) Our IRS Tax-ID is 22-3865069 filed Aug, 20, 2001 under the name Node Hosting Internet Services

You want to post any more up that I can prove you wrong at? You forget, we are a legit business, not a kid that thinks the world revolves around him. All of this is pointless in the process as we have closed, and our client base has been taken over. I do not understand why you are doing all of this, and that is where myself and my attorney have deemed that you are attacking me personally, and not the business, in such we feel we have the case. If you feel that you want to discuss this further and try and clear up some of the issues that you do not realize that you have started, I am at the office at 816-931-7018, not that I think you will call as you are to afraid to confront someone face to face.

I mean come on, here is the recent list of things that you have been caught up in:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84887&highlight=nodehosting
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62234&highlight=nodehosting

Then of course who can forget about this one that you tried this one before, where you got away with posting a retraction instead of us taking you to court that time (not agreed to pay you cash as you stated above):
The initial thread: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58261&highlight=nodehosting
The retraction for the intial thread: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59134&highlight=nodehosting

ProNorthern
11-30-2002, 06:20 PM
A T1??? Man, I was told over and over and over again that you had an OC3, you even stated it on your website. I was a paying customer, I paid for the connectivity, so I guess I'll have to file suit against you on Monday for False Advertising.

You see Frank, in this business, people pay you for the amount of bandwidth you can provide, if it's Cogent, they pay less, if it's a T1, they pay less, if it's an OC3, OC12, OC48, then naturally we pay more because the speed is always there.

Your a joke, a has been, a never will be. Give it up Frank and go back to working at Wendy's or something.

"Would you like to supa' size that?"

Regards,

ProNorthern

NodeHost
11-30-2002, 08:17 PM
Once again, that was under IMME, and I had no control. If you want to file lawsuit against them, I will be more than happy to give you the old owners address.

There, I was told to do alot of things that I did not agree with, and were told to say alot of things that were not normal. Anyone that worked there will stand behind this, as we were promised alot that never came through. I was in the position of keeping a paycheck and insurance on my family, or being fired and loosing everything. In retrospect, I lost everything when Richard closed it anyway, but I was just doing as told then.

Here in KC, we had more than a T1 - but not a OC3 under Node. With Node, we never said we had a OC3, as with the stuff with IMME that was tossed around, I started this with a different concept. One where I never hid what I had. Right now, everything while waiting for the move has been reduced to a T1 - and as far as 1stammendment, they wanted a 3MB up there, which is what Sprint was going to pull I assume. I just know going out of business, and not billing, we are not even using a T1 while the move process is going on, so why should I have more than that active right now?

This has really gotten out of hand. Not only do I have to deal with accusations about Node that are far from the truth, I have to defend a company that has not existed for 1 1/2 years because I worked for them? I am not going to do it, it is that simple.

You can post what you want from here forward, I am done, Mods, you can leave it open to listen to the grype fest, or you can close it. It is WAY off topic at this point.

Incognito
11-30-2002, 09:04 PM
Once again, that was under IMME, and I had no control There, I was told to do alot of things that I did not agree with, and were told to say alot of things that were not normal. If you knowingly lied, then you are just as accountable for your actions as the owners are for theirs. If you knowingly participated in fraudulent schemes, then you are just as accountable for your actions as the owners are for theirs.

You had choices and you made the wrong choices. While I feel for the pressure you were put under, that does not excuse your actions or decisions. No, you don't have to defend the actions of the Company. But, you are responsible for your own actions. Hopefully, next time you face the choice of right versus wrong you will choose to take the better path.

But, morally as well as legally, you admit to being guilty of misleading and taking advantage of people as an employee of your former employer. And when you post offers, your past is never off the point.

One final point....have you changed? Well, I don't know. But, what I do know is that you came in here today pretending not to be Frank, lying about that, until confronted.

Planetseti
11-30-2002, 10:24 PM
Frank, again quit talking and take action if you feel you can do something. ProNorthern he doesnt tell anybody the truth he lies to everyone he has told everyone a different story. And actually frank you and Nelson made a offer of $600 which was negioatiated by Nelson and you rejected to pay at which point i contacted the BBB for your neglect to file wages with the IRS and business practices. You donot wanna screw with me Frank if you do ill file papers first thing tommorow and fax irc logs, e-mails, and various other information including customer statements and information obtained under the FOIA which can be sent both to the IRS and IFC and i didnt file the initial investigation with the IFC a former employee of yours and a old client did i was named and provided further info including contact info for all employees that were named.

Planetseti
11-30-2002, 10:27 PM
Provide a lawyers or attorneys name ill be sure to call them as any lawyer would know that defamatory statements arent against the law pursuant to both constitution and general U.S. commerce laws allow any individual to provide info on a company to consumers.

WII-Aaron
11-30-2002, 10:34 PM
And that, folks, is a picture of the hosting scene in Kansas City. :eek4:

Aaron

Planetseti
11-30-2002, 10:49 PM
Quotes About Nodehosting:

Edwin's Quote:
I just hate being scammed over and over again. I am pretty dissatisfied with their service and had requested for cancellation on several occasions last month but have yet gotten any resolution in regards to this. I think they are delibrately avoiding that. My account is not worth a lot of money and probably doesn't quite cause a dent in their pocket cancelling it.

After reading this post, I decided to contact 2checkout directly to mediate the situation. I hope I get better luck there.

It is really sad that the company has to resort to this to survive. I know Frank has personal problems but the non-response for over 3 weeks is really too much.


__________________
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Edwin >> edwin@iredsoft.com
Batch Image Processing Solutions
http://www.batchimage.com

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JTM22's Quote:
This Statement Is Made Under The Freedom Of Speach Act and The EFF Internet and Business Movement Act.

As a former employee of Nodehosting I can say first hand what happend. Frank told us all that we would be getting in with a company on the way to the top, he promised pay, and in some cases free dedicated servers. None of this happend.

Recently his son has had medical problems making it hard for frank to be at home, to do server maintanance, tech. support and all other misc. things. The day I quit there was 57 un anaswered help tickets, many requesting cancellation of service.

Most evenings most staff were busy looking into problems with the servers with 100% network downtime/failure due to poor server maintanance, poor data center conditions, poor DNS hookups, and the load on every server causing network outages. I reccomend a diffrent host, anyone but this company. Many of the plans are fraudgelent ploys to get money with no service.

Quote From Node E-mail:

Ben, what is going on with nodehosting... Frank has said he was going to refund my money it's been several months i am gonna take this bad check to the DA's office today.

Quote From Aim Convo:
XXXXXXX: If we pay you the $600 for working for node will you make the retraction statement?
Codingfreak: Yes, i will
XXXXXXX: Ok ill make sure frank pays you the money

right after that i was called and we had a conference call they got me to make retraction statements and i was never paid for my work.

Planetseti
11-30-2002, 10:52 PM
Indeed Aaron... Frank makes threats and nothing ever happens and he once told his secret to success

"Sometimes you gotta Bull**** and make stuff up to lure customers"

Nodehosting has not only cost myself hundreds of dollars in damages it has costed many users of WHT and former employees similiar damages aswell. And many complaints have been filed this is yet another attempt for frank to protect himself and change names yet again.

And the funny thing is he posted links to devalue my statements yet if you investigate carefully you will notice how the people he had make comments ie: JTM22 were totally against him days before its because he offered them software and hosting etc. etc.

Planetseti
11-30-2002, 10:57 PM
Btw. I donot reccomend purchasing any servers from Frank he has sold 2 in the past and he got the cash but the server was never sent due to a last minute price change and paypal and the person who was tricked are still handling it.

DaveyJ
12-01-2002, 01:30 AM
I too wasn't going to post along this one, but I decided I just had to.

PlanetSeti - you really need to study a little more about the U.S. Constitution and the laws of the United States. My guess, from the broken English in your statements, is that you probably haven't been in this country very long or that you're still under-age, but somebody should let you know that there is no such thing as a Freedom of Speech Act. Also, the FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) applies to a request for information from agencies of the government.

The 1st Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Nowhere in that statement does it give any protection to anyone from libel. Lawyers don't bother with defamatory statements much, but libel is a different story. There's good money to be made by lawyers in libel suits. And since it's in a civil court and not a criminal court, the rules of evidence are much more relaxed.

So before everyone starts slinging too much more BS around the area, you might remember that lawyers read this list too. And I understand they like a good long list of billable hours. Just because something might be true, doesn't give you the right to say it, and when it turns out to be fabricated - well now, lawyers do know how to smile don't they?

Mike
(no, I'm not a lawyer - I just paid attention in Civics class)

DaFreak2002
12-01-2002, 01:20 PM
What I want to know, if Nodehosting is closed, what is the point of this thread?

Why are you going through so much trouble to beat a company that is dead?

ProNorthern
12-01-2002, 03:23 PM
So Frank can't continue to rip off anybody else by starting up another fabricated lie.

Planetseti
12-01-2002, 05:06 PM
Node has never left the scene instead he sells his company and doesnt really sell it or changes company names or lurks elsewhere. This is to protect the consumers of WHT from being ripped as handfuls have already.

1stamendment
12-01-2002, 05:33 PM
I hope everyone will know that 1stamendment.com is a straight forward and honest company and last thing I want to see is our name get tarnished in this thread. We hope to give every customer that node still had when we took over a good home at a fair price with quality service. I honestly don't have anything to say bad about Frank nor Ben.. Ben is a nice guy and Frank has always done me right since I first signed on as a reseller. All my customers are being moved to dedicated servers at Miami Data Vault on Multiple DS3's. Please feel free to trace route to 1stamendmenthosting.com or nodehosting.com to verify this. With that said. I hope I will now be given the chance to prove myself and my services.

Planetseti
12-01-2002, 10:43 PM
Mike, seems like he has everything going good i reccomend him he has a good support team and i can affirm he isnt affiliated with frank. He is based out of Yreka california not to far from me