Hi,

i currently have a rs server whit plesk5 then looking to buy a new server at RS..

So i want the knowledge from those that have tried ensim & plesk...

I think buying a Rs server whit ensim because its offered free whit the server then since plesk is very costly this save me money that i dont have too mutch to spend...

So i want to know whit your experience pro/cons of ensim vs plesk..

The only thing that disturb me a bit is that i'm new on linux then dont know a lot...

So my major concern was is ensim harder to maintain than plesk for a newbi and is all feature of plesk remain in ensim (apache:asp was not on ensim i think)?

Thanks for any comment !

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I was just going to make a post about Plesk. No one ever seems to talk about it. Maybe it's just cause I"m new here and haven't seen it come up yet. What's the general consensus on the quality of plesk? Do you like it or hate it and why?

thanks.

Originally posted by Reality Host
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I was just going to make a post about Plesk. No one ever seems to talk about it. Maybe it's just cause I"m new here and haven't seen it come up yet. What's the general consensus on the quality of plesk? Do you like it or hate it and why?

thanks.


For myself (newbie in hosting since this year)

Plesk is working pretty nice, the thing i dont like :

-Ugly interface not customizable

-Miss of language support

-Software Upgrade hard (i'm using psa standard not psa rpm) so i'm refrain using up2date that can broke psa.

-Psa 5 still not using the latest php & other thing like perl, and for some reason compiling the latest php will broke someting an not work correctly.

-Even Psa5 have to run on redhat 7.2 (hey we are now at 8.0!!! (outdated).

-Price & sorry to tell that but i have writed and email to know if its possible to have better price for less domain licence like 200 then never had any reply.... What a great disapointing thing that Plesk even not take care of is customer and take the time to just Tell NO or whatever else... Very bad... Just no reply at all...:-( :angry:

- Recently i see a tread in here that reports "spyware" on psa that report all domain name etc to psa... I Think all info from a server IS PRIVATE and have to be private... If its the case its realy bad thing !

Unless that psa5 is working fine for me...

"-Even Psa5 have to run on redhat 7.2 (hey we are now at 8.0!!! (outdated). "

You dont go with a new OS rightaway, go with what works, freebsd is the best way to go.


"Recently i see a tread in here that reports "spyware" on psa that report all domain name etc to psa... I Think all info from a server IS PRIVATE and have to be private... If its the case its realy bad thing ! "

Yea, but then there will be a lot of pirating and yep you guessed it, incressed prices


"-Ugly interface not customizable "

People gotta have their pretty colors


"-Psa 5 still not using the latest php & other thing like perl, and for some reason compiling the latest php will broke someting an not work correctly. "

Go with what works, a small sacrifice

We run Plesk servers and have had no problems. They have help even when I have done something stupid. I just call support and they seem to be more then willing to help.

Plesk may seem to be steep but when you spread the cost over all your customers it's only pennies a day. We you account for the time it takes to manage thier servers is a lot less then managing other servers not run Plesk.

Things you should know about plesk :)

1) It's bandwidth monitoring is next to useless and will cost you money - our average server does about 80GB actual transfer calculated at the switch, plesk reports about 30GB tops - it doesn't include mail, ftp

2) Only supports sub-domains as part of your 300 domains, so you will need to write a script if you want to offer sub-domains.

3) Adds databases with localhost access only and no web panel means of changing this, which means installing phpmyadmin or command line work if a customer wants external access to his database

4) Customers find it difficult to use, the panel is not intuitive, we get 5 support calls for plesk for every 1 support call on cpanel

5) The webmail implementation has been buggy for us on busy servers, goes down twice a day

6) Once you get up to 300 domains per server httpd fails every couple of days but plesk support did come up with a script to check if httpd is up and restart it :eek:

7) No easy way of measuring bandwidth at client level, although matrixscripts did produce a free script which does this

8) there sales response times went downhill after adam left and seem to change sales reps every month now

9) their support is quick but be careful giving them access to your server, they tend to change stuff without telling you and have left our server down on 2 occasions without informing us. They have always responding quickly but in just over a year and about 7 support calls they have only solved the problem once, every other time we have solved it after they failed to.

Ensim is good but its slow...

I will have to agree with Jolly on this one.

Originally posted by time-to-go
Things you should know about plesk :)

1) It's bandwidth monitoring is next to useless and will cost you money - our average server does about 80GB actual transfer calculated at the switch, plesk reports about 30GB tops - it doesn't include mail, ftp

You have 50GB of mail and ftp going through your server...? :)

We don't seem to have any problems. The figures provided to us by various providers are usually within a few hundred MB of what our stats systems report.

2) Only supports sub-domains as part of your 300 domains, so you will need to write a script if you want to offer sub-domains.

Some custom modification gets around that.

4) Customers find it difficult to use, the panel is not intuitive, we get 5 support calls for plesk for every 1 support call on cpanel[QUOTE][B]

Completely opposite experiences here. Interesting how different providers can have completely opposite results. Good stuff though.

[QUOTE][B]5) The webmail implementation has been buggy for us on busy servers, goes down twice a day

We've only had one problem with Webmail (with a specific piece of email that a client received). It never goes down.

6) Once you get up to 300 domains per server httpd fails every couple of days but plesk support did come up with a script to check if httpd is up and restart it :eek:

Again, no such problems here. We 've only got a few servers with over 300 domains, but none of them cause any problems. One in particular is up 145 days and sits at around 0.02

7) No easy way of measuring bandwidth at client level, although matrixscripts did produce a free script which does this

Plesk 5 does.

Overall we're more than happy with Plesk and have no end of trouble with WHM/Cpanel to date.

Cheers

Gary

"-Ugly interface not customizable"

Plesk 5 interface is easy to customize if you read the fine manual

"-Miss of language support"

Language Packs can be obtained for Plesk

"- Recently i see a tread in here that reports "spyware" on psa that report all domain name etc to psa... I Think all info from a server IS PRIVATE and have to be private... If its the case its realy bad thing !"

I don't know, as I don't work for plesk, but all I have heard from support, and after monitoring my server with a packet sniffer, all I have seen, is the key number, admin info, and domain numbers being hosted to plesk. In which case they allready have your key number, they allready have you info if you bought the key, and they are also making sure their software hasn't been modified to support more domains then what was purchased. A small price to pay to keep the price down due to less piracy going on if you ask me. You would be surprised how many 100s of companies use this method.

Originally posted by frozen
"-Ugly interface not customizable"

Plesk 5 interface is easy to customize if you read the fine manual

"-Miss of language support"

Language Packs can be obtained for Plesk

"- Recently i see a tread in here that reports "spyware" on psa that report all domain name etc to psa... I Think all info from a server IS PRIVATE and have to be private... If its the case its realy bad thing !"

I don't know, as I don't work for plesk, but all I have heard from support, and after monitoring my server with a packet sniffer, all I have seen, is the key number, admin info, and domain numbers being hosted to plesk. In which case they allready have your key number, they allready have you info if you bought the key, and they are also making sure their software hasn't been modified to support more domains then what was purchased. A small price to pay to keep the price down due to less piracy going on if you ask me. You would be surprised how many 100s of companies use this method.


For the v5 is better in lot of point, i think plesk is starting to learn more from customer so the result was a better product, they have now more options on v5 then lot of other still need to add...
Btw i have get another licence of plesk since less learning for me...

Btw they seem to not having my language... So i'm will look to build it myself but currently no prob for the button since in v5 they now have a "Skin" button to change the skin.. but where is the language file or someting similar, (where is the text), only button is modifiable there. So if you know let me know :-)

the think that sending # of domain/admin not disburb me at all (i'm legal and paying my license) , but actualy this is why i dont agree whit a "policy" like that... this worth nothing anyway nothing at all... Do you think if i use a pirated copy of psa i will let psa send that ? if your smart enough you will hack psa to make sure they not send anyting... The fact is this is a break in privacy then when you buy psa you will not see "psa will send information to make sure your not using pirated copy " , pirating exist for anyting, and for sure this will never stop, but this is not a reason to track information from a VALID customer.

More and more this break in privacy will append if you let that goes and tell " ho well no prolem" then one day you will goes out of your bed and have 3 cameras in each room watching you "ho its for your security , only for that " .. Well... Its not what i want in the future for myself or my familly...


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