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Nightflames
02-11-2000, 06:36 AM
Any company using the Alabanza unix based control panel and looking to add a new reseller with an existing 10 domains and more on the way please give me a contact point. I love their system and if I could afford the $480 a month to get a dedicated server with them I would. I have used it extensively at Jumpline but need someone who's pricing is seriously interested in resellers.

bww
02-11-2000, 07:42 PM
We use Alabanza servers - they are GREAT!
We also offer a resellers program.

Please stop by our website and check out our plans at: http://www.businesswebworks.com

Nightflames
02-13-2000, 12:09 PM
Thanks for the info and I've looked through your site several times since I go the message. Its almost what I was after and I might take a small domain at some time to test it but its just a little short of my total needs. Thanks tho.

Matty
02-16-2000, 07:13 AM
Have you tried contacting Alabanza directly. Perhaps they "can" tell you who they host (if you ask politely and state your purpose).

Nightflames
02-16-2000, 08:45 AM
Good idea Matty and I will try it.I already have a couple of "resellers" I am evaluating but should I need to go direct you are right maybe they can even find someone to co=share with us.

EWeird
02-18-2000, 05:17 PM
Any chance you could share any info you learn? I've looked at a few alabaza resellers too, and would be interested to know what you find out!

whatuwant
02-18-2000, 08:48 PM
linuxwebhost.com

Ask for James Rogers

Tell them Matt From Whatuwant.com sent you.
He is a real pro.

Nightflames
02-18-2000, 11:46 PM
Thanks Matt (of whatuwant) but given this exact (extract)copy of a James Rogers' reply to a request for basic info and the possible activation of special features to swap multiple domains to linuxwebhost I am not as sure of his attitudes to individual customers as you are.
QUOTE
We offer the features that we want to and others offer what they want. Anyone who leases a machine from Alabanza can turn on or off what ever they do not wish to offer.

So I guess the answer would be no I would not change the way I want to do business to gain you as a customer.
END QUOTE

Nightflames
02-18-2000, 11:51 PM
I should make two things clear about linuxwebhost.com ....Their packages are very good and the less than encouraging response was prompt from them.
Like the stories of halfprice hosting, if you dont want your individual situation dealt with and are content to take what you are given, this is a good host site

Nightflames
02-21-2000, 07:31 AM
E Weird it looks like the best way to beat them is to join them. I'm thinking of getting together with a small group who are tired of taking 2nd rate deals and start our own direct to Alabanza group, seems about the only way to get a true break.

Brian Farkas
02-21-2000, 10:48 PM
NIGHTFLAMES- Actually, I am starting a group like that myself... and we need one more member. Please contact me via ICQ (11531753) or email: brian27@pacbell.net
so we could discuss this further.

Thanks!

Brian Farkas

Nightflames
02-22-2000, 07:12 AM
Done Brian *smiles* check your mail. Until something concrete comes about though I will keep searching because there are so many of us tired of the companies who believe that you can't have service and price.

whatuwant
02-24-2000, 05:46 PM
Nightflames...
Just wondering, what specific services of an Alabanza host were you looking for?

Nightflames
02-26-2000, 12:13 PM
well linuxwebhosting is pretty damn close...shame they have such a poor attitude to individual customer questions ...it raises the concern of how they would deal with an individual support problem but other than a couple of small features I'd say they are the best overall offering for the price. Had they responded with something more than a politely worded "screw you" to this exact question our 12 domains would be there now

quote "Three vital shortcomings seem to be in the ability to customize (brand) the control panel we give to our resold customers currently, the customised DNS service we already have and use at jumpline as a reseller and the shopping cart which is a part of our jumpline account."unquote

ab
02-28-2000, 08:20 AM
Nightflames : What exactly do you mean by customizing the control Panel? How exactly do you do it and what are you expecting to paid?

Nightflames
02-28-2000, 10:38 AM
ab a standard feature of the packages supplied by Alabanza (to those who lease the servers) is the ability for resellers to "Brand" change the control panel of the accounts they resell. Most of the companies leasing servers at Alabanza make a big deal of this as a marketing tool to give resellers their own identity.
Why James Rogers would say:
QUOTE
We offer the features that we want to and others offer what they want. Anyone who leases a machine from Alabanza can turn on or off what ever they do not wish to offer.

So I guess the answer would be no I would not change the way I want to do business to gain you as a customer.
END QUOTE
and not ask your question instead escapes me..but perhaps turning off standard features or not wanting resellers to have their own identity... is a service I haven't grasped the value of.

Esper
03-14-2000, 08:49 AM
Nightflames --> any progress on the Alabanza host hunt?

I currently have one domain w/ linuxwebhost.com and as to be expected they have terrible tech support, but they're reliable on the hardware and features end.

I would greatly appreciate it if you posted any progress you made regarding other alabanza hosts!

Thanks -

Esper.

Randy
03-16-2000, 01:00 AM
Nightflame,

What are the reasons that you are leaving jumpline? How would you rate them overall? I am considering using them.

Randy

Client IP:205.148.240.139

racecar
03-16-2000, 07:36 AM
Can you tell me what is their hosting business cost? and do they offer NT server too? Does any one know of another company to compare with?

Thanks for the information

Client IP:24.66.75.173

Nightflames
03-19-2000, 08:04 PM
Esper the unfortunate reality is that there is a certain truth to the old "you get what you pay for" linuxwebhost is the best and most effective of the low end priced alabanzer derived resellers/server leasee's I found. What I have done is go for a blend of hosts using more expensive ones for the sites where I need to have my own identity and linuxwebhost where price is all that matters.
Randy, Jumpline have a good product (the same product as linuxwebhost since both lease it from alabanzer) but are more willing to allow a reseller to have their own identity. My own experience is that they are slow to non existant on support matters but good on sales ones..sound familiar to everyone? (We'll be great TILL AFTER we have your money)...so I'd suggest linuxwebhost if you only need price and jumpline (maybe) if you neet your own identity.

PD01
03-21-2000, 01:09 AM
Hi, I use linuxwebhost... I like what they offer. I do say if you read what the site says, they will support problems, not hold your hand. I recommend it for someone with moderate experience, I have 30+ domains with them, and am quite happy. I may look at paying Alabanza myself, but I would want a larger package like the $960 package not buy a small one and move up.

Client IP:24.26.89.248

chicken nug...
03-21-2000, 09:44 PM
I looked into Alabanza, and correct me if I am wrong, but isn't one of the big selling points the fact that THEY (alabanza) do tech support for you? I only ask because that would mean that no matter what host you pick (jumpline, linuxhost, etc.) the support is coming from the same place? And I have heard it is slow all around (from alabanza and jumpline). This would make sense then.

Client IP:209.178.129.93

Brian Farkas
03-21-2000, 10:58 PM
Nope, they don't do support for you... they do provide the control panel for you with some knowledge base articles I believe... and they will help you with admining the server, but they don't support your users. They do, however, provide a nice admin panel with automated billing features, automatic account setup, etc. It's really very nice.

Brian

Client IP:206.171.33.58

Chicken Nug...
03-21-2000, 11:11 PM
I contacted them and quote, "Yes, we support you and your clients". I guess I misunderstood this, and in reading the email that was sent with all of the plans, there wasn't a mention of supporting my clients. Thanks for the clarification. I thought the prices were a bit steep, but I also thought that they included support. Now I really think that it is steep. Hmmmm. Great servers though eh?

Client IP:209.178.128.63

Nightflames
03-22-2000, 01:58 AM
Chicken Nug first up lets identify the two types of support someone needs/gets using Alabanza. Firstly Alabanza does supply the tech support to the leasee NOT to the end user and this I have no problem with, after all you dont take your car straight to Ford you take it to the dealer you bought it from.
If that dealer is slow or inefficient or plain just doesnt care and doesnt have the current details regarding your car or doesnt ask for them swiftly that is the dealer's lack of support not Ford's (Alabanza).
Second type of support a dealer (leasee such as linuxwebhost, jumpline et al) sells the car (hosting) in their own manner and this includes options, response promises, willingness to go that little bit further for clients. The fact the product originates in one place does not make all hosts equal as it does not make all car dealers equal and I stand by my earlier comments about who goes a bit further and who concentrates on price without the "caring" and yes I CURRENTLY operate servers with both jumpline and linuxwebhost.