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View Full Version : What is the point of posting on your own here?
2host.com 11-24-2002, 10:37 AM http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=90749
This is ridiculous. I have my posts edited by Chicken because I don't get along with someone? Perhaps I didn't respond the most appropriate way, but that was in response to posters that did not either. I did not instigate this, and even if I post some sarcasm for humor sake or to illustrate how foolish someone's being, is no reason to go on an editing rampage. I'm warned of being banned if I don't get along with people, even if they make no effort to get along with me?
If someone's wrong, I WILL tell them. It is not for Chicken to decide who should be more correct about this topic. If people have the need to whine to a moderator for being wrong about something, then what is the point to questions and answers? Or should I just complain and ask to have any post where someone said I was wrong or didn't agree with me, to have their posts edited as well? I have copies of the threads saved and there's nothing offensive or vulgar.
Maybe some people don't get along, that's life, but to edit all my posts and not touch anyone else's ( whom in my opinion were being irrational and making efforts to blindly discredit me), doesn't seem just. But what the hey, it's out of my control and you'll do whatever you want to do, since you're a mod. If you edit every post that people don't get along in, look at who is instigating it. If you want everyone to get along, or edit their posts, why don't you just post all the threads yourself?
If you want to edit only off topic content, why express that people have this ability to post their opinions and views and other content relevant to a thread? Why not just say you'll censor any portion of a post that is not to your liking? If you want to claim it's due to the off topic nature, why don't you remove posts of people that didn't post anything but inaccurate or false information? If you can decide what's relevant or on topic or appropriate, why not reduce the posts and thread to what you personally want to?
Is it one way or the other, or just who complains first, or whose attitude you personally dislike most? Why not save the hassle and just be fair and remove anything irrelevant or off topic. It seems rather contradictive to warn someone for flaming because they don't get along with someone that makes a specific effort to NOT get along with you, and only remove portions of one person's posts, but not others that are equally as flame-ish. You can assume this is a misguided complaint, but that's some strange policy you've got there.
Well, so long. I know it doesn't matter and I'm not trying to be all dramatic. But how pointless is this when this sort of thing happens? I just don't know that I'll bother to participate at a forum that treats people like this, and acts and claims that people are free to post anything within guidelines. Now anything can be construed as "not nice" or "not polite" and this is the result. Some people need to lay off the caffine.
SoftWareRevue 11-24-2002, 10:39 AM Why are you talking to Chicken here?
Why don't you email him?
2host.com 11-24-2002, 10:41 AM Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
Why are you talking to Chicken here?
Why don't you email him?
Why ask why? It's a post expressing my disappointment and wondering what the point is to this. My public posts are edited for reasons I don't agree with. I wanted to express my feelings about that. If it doesn't interest people, they don't need to read it. It's just a public inquiry about this topic (hence the post).
I also did email him. But do you think that will change his mind, his view or make him care about it? No, I believe I will witness the same attitude I've seen from him in response to anyone else he edit's their posts. I didn't realize until recently that this was basically run by Chicken. I thought Rackshack owned it. But he put (or still allowed) Chicken to be in charge to wave his wand.
Not that I'm saying all his actions are made in poor judgment, but this is a little much. Yes, sure, it affects me personally this time, so I think this. Anyone of you would as well, if it happened to you. This isn't just to complain, but since Chicken will basically think "I did what I did, complain all you like", doesn't help make this forum any better. Again, another opinion of mine.
I'm not attacking him, but I don't agree with or understand what he did this for and why it didn't apply to anyone else in the situation. So it seems strange. Anyway, I know that if there aren't rainbows and flowers in posts and a mod isn't your fiend, that this sort of post will just be seen as mindless complaining and more flaming, but I just say it how I see it. I don't kiss ---, and I shouldn't have to or end up being faced with warnings. It's pretty silly. Well, that's all I have to say.
I came here to contribute (my posting history will show this and I offered what I could, and I think it was a lot), but I'm not interested in a forum that's run like some kid with a free geocities board. No one should hold someone else's rights above anothers. I know the reaction this will receieve, especially from Chicken, so I digress, and I'm sure we all have better things to do.
Lippy 11-24-2002, 10:49 AM Just to let you know, techniclly Chicken can do what ever chicken wishes, as this is his(or her) site. Though the editing my not seem right to you or others it may be Chicken's idea of approriate.
SoftWareRevue 11-24-2002, 10:52 AM The first two paragraphs you talked 'about' Chicken. The next four, you talked 'to' him.
If you have a problem with your posts being edited, state that. And stick to that topic.
If you don't like posting here; why post?
2host.com 11-24-2002, 10:55 AM Originally posted by Lippy
Just to let you know, techniclly Chicken can do what ever chicken wishes, as this is his(or her) site. Though the editing my not seem right to you or others it may be Chicken's idea of approriate.
And I never disagreed with that. But that is sort of a blanket reason. My post was that what's the point of different people posting, if it has to remain within such confined parameters that it becomes non expressive and conformative to how you personally respond to people, events and what person you are.
If you don't say anything offensive, then anyone can still apparently label something as being rude. Yes, I'm guilty of not smiling and agreeing when someone goes out of their way to discredit a post and incite issues. Apparently it's all my fault if they complain.
Anyway, I just was saying I don't see the point if someone else can censor your posts to actually not end up being the content you posted in the manner you did (but anything can be technically against the rules).
Yes, it's not my site, but I didn't know it was his, but again he is put into the position to do what he wants. Sucks for me, works for him. That's all that matters. I guess it's just not for me. Fair enough. :-)
SoftWareRevue 11-24-2002, 10:58 AM It's a community forum. Everyone has their own opinion. You have to expect that not all will agree with you. When they don't agree with you, you have to accept that. If you can't; maybe you should reconsider your involvment with a communty.
2host.com 11-24-2002, 10:59 AM Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
The first two paragraphs you talked 'about' Chicken. The next four, you talked 'to' him.
If you have a problem with your posts being edited, state that. And stick to that topic.
If you don't like posting here; why post?
You seem really worried about this. I don't deny I talked about and then to him. For goodness sakes, I was going with a thought. I did stick to the topic, thank you very much. Why worry so much about why or what I posted? It's not a big deal. And just because I post about this issue, doesn't give way to a patented "If you don't like it, why post here".
I believe I was expressing my thoughts about this. Don't make more out of it. Why is this so personal to you? Goodness. lol See, this is the sort of stuff that can be deemed as a flame, challenging why I would post, not being nice (of course I'm already on the outs anyway, so that will be overlooked. I won't complain, I promise).
Anyway, I'll stop posting in a thread I started, so it won't bother you so much. I didn't realize you have such a passion for challenging people that want to express any negative feelings about the policies or actions. Sorry, really. And to not beat a dead horse, I'll end on that note.
interactive 11-24-2002, 11:00 AM 2Host before this I had a decent amount of respect for you. Even though I can agree with you in that thread I think that you were an arrogant ass to those 2 users.
2host.com 11-24-2002, 11:03 AM Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
It's a community forum. Everyone has their own opinion. You have to expect that not all will agree with you. When they don't agree with you, you have to accept that. If you can't; maybe you should reconsider your involvment with a communty.
I saw your post after I submitted mine. I never said people can't or don't have their own opinion. I also never indicated I had a problem with it. I don't know where you're getting this stuff from, but why are you attacking me? Why do you care so much what I think? I mean, do YOU have a problem with my opinion where you'll actually act like this for a reason?
No offense, but maybe you don't see how this is coming off. Maybe something like how I look to you. Anyway, I shouldn't have to explain or prove that I don't suffer from denial of people having their own opinions, since I do not. This scenario was never an issue, even if you see that it was for whatever reason. Now, I will finally go, which should make you happy for some reason. I'd just recommend you not read or get involved in threads if it bothers you so much (at least that's how you are coming off to me, no offense meant by it).
2host.com 11-24-2002, 11:05 AM Originally posted by interactive
2Host before this I had a decent amount of respect for you. Even though I can agree with you in that thread I think that you were an arrogant ass to those 2 users.
No problem, you're entitled. I thought the same of them, actually. I could go as far as to say that it seems that such a comment as this might come off that way. It's okay to think what you wish, I know that I obviously think differently. Good luck everyone. :-)
interactive 11-24-2002, 11:06 AM And one more rant. Going around saying you know everything is about equal to saying you don't know anything.
2host.com 11-24-2002, 11:24 AM Originally posted by interactive
And one more rant. Going around saying you know everything is about equal to saying you don't know anything.
FOR GOODNESS SAKES! Some people really have a knack for dragging people into responding. Please don't try and argue about this. You have your opinions about what you see. However, I did NOT (even if you wish to think I did) EVER say I knew everything. It's SO annoying when people resort to saying someone's acting like that. I KNEW about this topic, I KNEW the facts, I posted the facts and URL's, yet I was told I was wrong and to prove it even after that! Why should someone have to concede that "maybe they don't know what they know after all, since the other person says they don't". Of course I'm going to defend that position, since I knew, this is MY JOB (to know). Why people choose to see that as me thinking I know everything, or claiming I ever said that I did, is a little much. Indeed, with this sort of attitude, this is NOT the forum for me.
I just can't imagine where you got that idea, but it seems people get way too touchy and choose to assume anyone that is adamant about a topic they know, even with posting proof, still is only going to be seen as an arrogant, know-it-all SOB that can't accept anyone not agreeing with them. Truly, if that's what anyone got from that and didn't consider anything else, I truly do not hold such opinions highly. I'm not saying that to insult you, but just that I really don't get bothered by people that think such things, because I know that wasn't what I thought or how I think. I never said that and just being right about something, doesn't make me an arrogant jerk. Really, it doesn't. It really just might simply mean that I do know and I've studied and applied this knowledge to not question it.
I guess the other side of that debate/argument did manage to convince people that I was arrogant anyway, even though I posted the proof of what I said and did nothing more than not allow them to discredit me or present inaccurate claims to oppose what I said. Apparently that makes me arrogant. Fine, so be it then. I'm just not going to comment again. The irony of the responses to this, after I was the one that was warned for not getting along with people, is too thick to breathe. I really mean it. Yet dragging it out and saying this about me. You choose to see things how you want, but I never did this and I choose to see the irony in these responses here. Too funny. (Yeah, I know you're thinking: "Wow, look at this guy going on about it" and not thinking beyond that). Thank you for motivating me to finalizing my decision. I need a break. Good luck.
SoftWareRevue 11-24-2002, 11:26 AM Originally posted by 2host.com
You seem really worried about this. . . . . . . . You see?
Sheesh. Not everyone sees things the way you do.
I can accept that not everyone shares my views. As demented as they often are. :)
But, I read the thead you reference. I read it as posts were happening. I will withhold comment on that and just state that your reaction here sums up your interaction there.
Incognito 11-24-2002, 12:06 PM Your facts, your knowledge, your apparent omniscience do not justify your tone or your personal derogatory remarks.
From the board rules:We take the "be polite" rule VERY seriously! We do not tolerate ANY rudeness. Any member who is intentionally unpleasant or disruptive will receive one warning (at our discretion), and if the member offends again the member will be banned without warning. You were clearly in violation of that rule and being right in every other aspect of your posts would still not reverse that fact.
In fact, I believe the response by the moderators in tempering some of your posts and allowing the thread to continue as long as they did was quite tolerant. Personally, I would have pulled the trigger much quicker and might well have banned you for a brief period.
The moderators have a difficult job and, in my opinion, do it quite well. Do I always agree with them? Of course, not. But do I respect them and try to show that respect? Yes.
You may be brilliant and extremely knowledgeable. However, those are not the words that would first come to mind when thinking about you after reading your posts. The words would be much more centered around your behavior and attitude.
What is the point of posting here? To share ideas, not to pound them into people. To learn in a congenial atmosphere, not one filled with tension and anger. To assist others, not to try to prove how brilliant and perfect we are ourselves.
Chicken 11-24-2002, 12:17 PM Originally posted by 2host.com
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=90749
This is ridiculous. I have my posts edited by Chicken because I don't get along with someone? Perhaps I didn't respond the most appropriate way...
No, you didn't and that's why the posts were edited and the thread locked. I gave up editing.
To answer your question: "What is the point of posting on your own here?"
It is to share information and discuss things in a civil manner. if you are not able to do that, then no matter how much good information you have, we cannot permit you to post on the forum. I assume you're able to control yourself and that this won't be an issue.
As I told you via email...
I had to remove entire paragraphs and posts which did not address the thread topic. You went on and on about the person posting the comments, accusing them of being someone else, etc., instead of dicsussing the topic I'm not going to list the things posted, you posted them, look what is missing and what I gave up on. The thread is locked because of this, and if you have any more questions, feel free to write in.
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