I noticed at the staminus.net page that they offer AMD Duron XP 1200+ Server. When you click on "Order My Server" it also says under configuration that the processor is AMD Duron XP 1200+.
As far as I know, no such processor exists.
AMD Duron is a cheaper and slower version of the AMD Athlon XP. By naming the processor AMD Duron XP 1200+ instead of AMD Duron, the advertisement misleads people with the impression that the processor is faster and has higher value than the AMD Duron processor.

They maybe mean a Duron 1.1GHz
AMD processes are really complicated :angry:

maybe they are tryin to pull a nocsol, with the whole CogentXP bs. everybody knows cogentXP never existed, just a cheap scam.

Matt (from staminus) is a good guy, im sure he will post here and explain the situation.

There is AMD Duron XP 1200+. It runs at 900 MHz.

That's interesting. I had seen some Ebay auctions that list a Duron XP 1200+. I had never heard of one so I contacted AMD. According to the service rep. the Ebay auctions were a scam because AMD NEVER produced a Duron XP.

You may want to check those specs again.

Originally posted by toro
There is AMD Duron XP 1200+. It runs at 900 MHz.

No. There's an AMD Duron 1.2 GHz that runs at 1.2 GHz.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_1274_1202^609,00.html

(Broken link. Go to http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_1274_1202,00.html and click on "Competitive Comparison")

I bet it runs at 900mhz if you don't bump up the bus speed :D

The distributor markets as duron 1200+, thus we turn around and use the same naming. The chip runs at 900 mhz as recognized by the bios.

The distributor markets as duron 1200+, thus we turn around and use the same naming. The chip runs at 900 mhz as recognized by the bios.

Yes, I have seen a few distributors claiming to offer these chips. They are however, misleading people. I am sure that you have had no intentions to mislead people. I do suggest that you look into this situation or informed people will think that you are trying to mislead them.

This is not meant to be critical of you or your business. I'm just trying to give you some wise advice.

Originally posted by toro
The distributor markets as duron 1200+, thus we turn around and use the same naming. The chip runs at 900 mhz as recognized by the bios.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22duron+1200%2B%22&btnG=Google+Search

Google returns less than 2 pages for "Duron 1200+"

If your servers are running at 900 MHz, you should indicate that the cpu is a Duron 900. There is no such thing as a Duron 1200+, let alone a Duron XP 1200+. Just because your distributor may be scamming you, that does not give you the right to scam your customers.

Originally posted by atr


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22duron+1200%2B%22&btnG=Google+Search

Google returns less than 2 pages for "Duron 1200+"

If your servers are running at 900 MHz, you should indicate that the cpu is a Duron 900. There is no such thing as a Duron 1200+, let alone a Duron XP 1200+. Just because your distributor may be scamming you, that does not give you the right to scam your customers.

Quite the bold statement there. Scamming implies intention to deceive when in fact, none exists on our part :)

because your distributor may be scamming you, that does not give you the right to scam your customers. First, there is no basis for believing he is attempting to scam anyone. Second, this model was referred to by AMD as a Duron XP 1200+. It was first 850mhz, then 900. Is AMD's labelling misleading? Absolutely. Would I recommend using the processor speed, not the model? Absolutely. However, I strongly object to the scamming word, as I just looked and found over 40 other sites referrring to an AMD Duron XP 1200+ and know that they used that label initially themselves.

As posted by the BIOS, the chip reads Duron XP 1200+...

that settles it.

case closed!

heheh.. Nicely handled Matt.

Matt,

I owe you an apology. I never meant to make it look like you were being dishonest. I admire the way you handled the situation. I tip my hat to you.

Brett

I'm sorry for my poor choice of words.

Well that definitely settles that then :)

Hugs all round :D

but there still is no such thing as a Duron XP 1200 + CPU.

i can take screen shots of some of my bios's post screens of some celeron 1.7 CPU's, but the bios reports it as a P4 1.7. also in winxp system properties it says the cpu is an Intel Pentium 4 1.7 ghz CPU.

there are people selling/leasing servers as P4's when they are in fact Celerons.

so what's the right thing to do? to advertise what you know you put in the system or what a misprogrammed bios register says it is?

Originally posted by rastoma
but there still is no such thing as a Duron XP 1200 + CPU.

i can take screen shots of some of my bios's post screens of some celeron 1.7 CPU's, but the bios reports it as a P4 1.7. also in winxp system properties it says the cpu is an Intel Pentium 4 1.7 ghz CPU.

there are people selling/leasing servers as P4's when they are in fact Celerons.

so what's the right thing to do? to advertise what you know you put in the system or what a misprogrammed bios register says it is?

The processor is registering as a Duron XP 1200 and not an Athlon XP 1200, thus your analogy of a Celeron registering as a P4 is false.

Originally posted by toro


The processor is registering as a Duron XP 1200 and not an Athlon XP 1200, thus your analogy of a Celeron registering as a P4 is false.

I didn't make an analogy... I made a statement concerning the fact that what the BIOS reports is not always accurate.

I'm not saying what they are advertising is wrong or not... I'm saying there is no such CPU as a Duron XP.

Hello,

Rastoma. The Celeron's 1.7Ghz+ are based upon the P4 with 400Mhz FSB. That may be why.

:confused:

AMD Duron XP? LOL... I'd really reconsider advertising something like that... You might get in trouble with AMD if nothing else.

OTOH, you might keep it on the site and avery second customer will laugh his ass off. ;) I bet it'll do wonders for your sales...

Don't get me wrong, I wish you all the best but after seeing something like this, I'd leave the site and never come back.

Originally posted by Ales
AMD Duron XP? LOL... I'd really reconsider advertising something like that... You might get in trouble with AMD if nothing else.

OTOH, you might keep it on the site and avery second customer will laugh his ass off. ;) I bet it'll do wonders for your sales...

Don't get me wrong, I wish you all the best but after seeing something like this, I'd leave the site and never come back.

AMD would probably be pleased to see that their 900 MHz CPU is rated against Intel's 1.2 GHz Celeron. You might judge our entire company based on your quick judgement of one advertised machine, but it's doubtful that others will mimic your thought-process :)

Originally posted by Ales
AMD Duron XP? LOL... I'd really reconsider advertising something like that... You might get in trouble with AMD if nothing else.

OTOH, you might keep it on the site and avery second customer will laugh his ass off. ;) I bet it'll do wonders for your sales...

Don't get me wrong, I wish you all the best but after seeing something like this, I'd leave the site and never come back.

lol did you just come in here to ramble some bs and try to add another post your post count? actually read the post and matt which i've never even talked to before he has acted more mature than you, rastoma or any other kiddies in this thread , why not drop it, i understand what he is saying weather you do or not is your deal.
^^ probably have some typos oh well

Originally posted by Ales
AMD Duron XP? LOL... I'd really reconsider advertising something like that... You might get in trouble with AMD if nothing else.

OTOH, you might keep it on the site and avery second customer will laugh his ass off. ;) I bet it'll do wonders for your sales...

Don't get me wrong, I wish you all the best but after seeing something like this, I'd leave the site and never come back.

I guess this is why someone made the saying "ignorance is bliss."

Why would it get him in trouble with AMD if they made the duron xp 1200+? Are you just trying to stir something up?

You leaving the site and never coming back is your choice, but before you judge why don't you ask his customers what they think? If you can find a truly dissatisfied customer then I will be amazed.

Originally posted by zdwebhosting


lol did you just come in here to ramble some bs and try to add another post your post count? actually read the post and matt which i've never even talked to before he has acted more mature than you, rastoma or any other kiddies in this thread , why not drop it, i understand what he is saying weather you do or not is your deal.
^^ probably have some typos oh well

Zac,

if i were you, i would try to learn the construct an understandable sentence when trying to be an ass to us kiddies next time.

all i've commented on the fact is there is no such cpu as a duron xp. if that makes me a kiddie then oh well.

and we see who is making useless posts to increase their post count when adding nothing of any value to the topic at hand.

i'm not here to argue with you but for it to stop? and I also know there were errors I was hurrying and did'nt bother me

i can stop... but calling someone names just because they were trying to point a fact about a cpu and since not once did i make any negative remarks about the person/question offering the cpu, is not called for.

dk2: If somebody made up a non-existing product and attributed it to my firm, I would certainly warn him not to do it. I don't know how has AMD registered the use of "duron", "XP" and "AMD" but my guess is that they have done it properly.

They also most certainly have enough solicitors to make it stick. That's the only thing I have had in mind when I talked about AMD in my previous post. It was actually ment to be a fair and well ment warning. Don't know how this attributes to ignorance, don't really care either...

Anyway, I'm not saying that Staminus or toro are not quite ok othervise, I haven't got any personal experience in doing business with them and this is not a personal attack.

zdwebhosting: I have read the post, I'm simply expressing my view. You don't have to agree with it, it wasn't written for that purpose. If you have a personal bone to pick with me, feel free to PM me, othervise lay off the personal flames (post-count, etc.) As to the "kiddies" remark, I happen to be gray haired, so I'll take it as a compliment... ;)

why don't you ask his customers what they think?

I'm a customer of Staminus Communications and what I'm caring about is the performance of the server. I have an AMD Athlon XP 1600+ (1.4Ghz) at Staminus and it is performing very well.

There were some issues initially with the first server but they were hardware related and Matt dealt with them in a professional manner. Response time for support requests are also very fast. It is not appropriate to talk about dishonesty here. Their servers do deliver.