I was just looking at pixelbrick designs and portfolio.. they look, well.. awesome,, but im scared to know what they cost.. anyone here have one, whats the range?

Minimum 5,000.00

Some sites such as hostrocket.com are rumored to have gone for I believe it was either 30,000.00 or 40,000.00 USD

30-40k for a website design. Im not exactly sure if thats sane!

I mean,, wow, 30k for a website design. Do they offer 30 year fixed mortgages on those things?

lol
Do they require mortgage insurance?

hehe..

PixelBrick designs are very expensive, minimum range is 10,000 to 25,000 USD. However, you get what you pay for. With PixelBrick designs they record custom music, do custom flash and even take stock photography for you.

However, they are most likely out of everyone-but-a-few-people's budgets.

Best wishes,

Dan

Definatelly out for mine, i couldnt see it for a startup or mid range service..

I see the quality though, but i dont think it weighs against the price, looks like more of a luxury for when you get way up in the industry.

if you have tons of money and you need to lower your bottom line....

http://www.rackfast.com was even more than the HR design.

They really won't want to talk to you unless you are willing to part with $10k or above.

$5k wouldn't get you much with them...

Yes, good web site deisgn costs a lot of money. But their stuff isn't that hard. If you have a really good flash person, and a great sound artist, you can make their flash stuff.

I used to be in the design business, and with specialists, we were doing some flash stuff like that.

I would be highly interested to see some of the flash stuff you did. Any URLs?

damn those sites are nice, pixelbrick, TDD, if you are watching this thread may I offer you congratulations on your site designs. Keep up the good work :)

voxtreme-matt ... don't have anything anymore ... company closed down a while ago. I'm working on a design for my webhosting business right now. I'll post a link when I'm done. (a number of weeks)

I know that Gap paid 30k for its web site, for company that big that is nothing, but I wouldn't pay 30k for a web site

just few things i would like to mention :- (not advertisements)

I know the designer who does flash for them.

I also know a good flash designer who can do as good as the above one.

On my personal site (coming out in a week), i never used flash music due to some reasons.

last time i talked to pixel brick, they emailed me the following :-

Dear Saeed,

Thank you for your inquiry.

Our prices for full website business solutions range from as low as
5000-10000USD to as high as 30000 - 70000USD

If you provide us with more details of what you are looking for than
we can give you a much better idea of what that would cost.

Kind Regards,
Shawn
P.S. Where did you hear about us?




I personally think if u have the right resources, u can get the same work or better from almost the same people with less than $1000 :)


Anyway i do like flash menu's they are superb but then dhtml menu's can give u almost the same effect and without jeopardizing your customer base (people whoz browsers dont have flash enabled)

Wow, HostRocket must be doing alright, since they own RackFast. That's 2 Pixelbrick designs they've had to pay for...

Good for them.

Vito

Originally posted by vito
Wow, HostRocket must be doing alright, since they own RackFast. That's 2 Pixelbrick designs they've had to pay for...

Good for them.

Vito

not just 2 , i've seen other sites designed by Pixel brick that are also owned by them. so basically the amount they paid was to build a couple of sites not just 1..

that surely increases their chances of attracting more and more customers

Regardless, I'm sure each site's design did not come cheap. Damn, those are nice designs.

Although, I hate looking at PB designs. Every time I do, it makes me want to go back and redesign my sites...

Vito

Not sure if I'll lose my head for this, but http://fuseblast.com is another pixelbrick designed site that we own. Its not quite HR or RF caliber but its decent IMHO. I'll tell you straight up that we are a horrible horrible host, maybe the worst on the planet, and not to buy hosting from us.... :) that way I don't have to catch crap for advertising as i'm just trying to take part in a conversation.

-Brendan

These are very nice designs, however I know people who can/will do just as good and unique work for much cheaper.

Nice collection of sites there, Brendan. Of the three, I like RackFast the best. Any more?

I don't know how tough it will be to answer this, but here goes. Did you find a marked increase in business after getting any of these sites redesigned? In other words, how much impact does one of these designs really have on getting new business?

Vito

Brendan I never thought you'd use a control panel skin designed by one of your competitors ;). They will probably be proud to see it publicised in one of your sites.

These are very nice designs, however I know people who can/will do just as good and unique work for much cheaper.

... Any portfolios? ;)

Just out of curiousity, and please feel free not to answer if you don't feel comfortable.

HRBrendan: About how many requests do you receive for web design projects a month? :)

anyone else finding the HR sites down right now? i cant get to rackfast or fuseblast...

still, the PB work ive seen is pretty impressive, although a little too flashy for me (im not a huge flash fan)

Originally posted by tagalaxy.net
anyone else finding the HR sites down right now? i cant get to rackfast or fuseblast...

still, the PB work ive seen is pretty impressive, although a little too flashy for me (im not a huge flash fan)

I can access them without a problem.

They work for me. I can reach all 3 sites.

Vito

Pixelbrick does put out some pretty sweet designs but I think that with the amount you pay you should not have any spelling mistakes. If you check out the hostreflex(www.hostreflex.com) site they did, it has a spelling mistake in the flash animation.

"SECURE AND LIGHTING FAST SERVERS"

Just out of curiosity last month, I went a little "surfing".
I increased the IP by .1 for host rocket, hehe found out they own more then just 2 or 3 pixel brick designs. :P

a previous employer paid an unnamed Candian company $50,000+ for an "intranet" "extranet" solution that never worked. they're idea of authentication for the "extranet" was to give customers full privledges to our network. in other words... Joe Schmo from ABC Corp. comes to MyEmployer, Inc. and sits down at a desk... logs in.. and tada... now that's what i call properly designed security.

I've heard from many sources that on the outside PixelBrick claims to charge $5K all the way to $40,000 but if you actually get them working on a site the total cost is about $1000-2000... mutal benefit for all.. the client gets to claim they paid top dollar, whilst the designer gets to claim they got paid top dollar thus = quality, while in the meantime the actuall money that the client gives to the designer is much less...

See the crazy thing is that they pay 30-40K for something at a realy profesional design company but my boy can do a design with better flash for 2-3k and in half the time. Its basicly just because they have money.... If you got it, Flaunt it/ :D

BTW hostreflex does look great!

I'm sorry, but paying $30k for an uninspired, cheesy, much to large site is absolutely ludicrous. For $30k you could easily have world reknown designers like www.kioken.com, www.vir2l.com, www.weworkforthem.com, www.2advanced.com or even www.thedesignersrepublic.com (all of which, IMO (and many many others) are much better design houses).

Originally posted by universal2001
I've heard from many sources that on the outside PixelBrick claims to charge $5K all the way to $40,000 but if you actually get them working on a site the total cost is about $1000-2000... mutal benefit for all.. the client gets to claim they paid top dollar, whilst the designer gets to claim they got paid top dollar thus = quality, while in the meantime the actuall money that the client gives to the designer is much less...
I wouldn't doubt there's sponsored development. Web sites are dynamic, if anyone's crazy enough to pay 70k for a static site - regardless of flashy animations - they'd be dumb, soon bankrupt, or most likely both. Clients likely have the option of showcasing their great site for pixelbrick at a discounted rate.

Speaking of which, if someone can do a nice front page w/ flash for RackNine between 2-5k I'm most certainly interested and would like you to get in touch with me or my web staff :)

-Matt

Have you guys ever seen http://www.whoswe.com/ ? The lowest project they take is 50k ... but the are freaking awesome.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by pattox
See the crazy thing is that they pay 30-40K for something at a realy profesional design company but my boy can do a design with better flash for 2-3k and in half the time. Its basicly just because they have money.... If you got it, Flaunt it/ :D QUOTE]

Funny.

1) Your homepage looks like it was inspired by their style.

2) I looked at your site. You may want to have you "boy" do some redesign. ;)

I'm sure a $30k website looks great, in my text browser, which is how I try to surf the web most of the time, or at the very least in Mozilla with Flash uninstalled.

Waste of money. Sorry, design isn't everything. I would rather see valid code, good prices, great support, and reasonable prices than to have some website play music it me and have blinking lights and flashing text. It's annoying and contentless and I hit the back button right away.

And any webpage that plays music at me will not get my business if they are the last business on earth.

Originally posted by KIAHost
Have you guys ever seen http://www.whoswe.com/ ? The lowest project they take is 50k ... but the are freaking awesome.
For a 50k offering you'd think they could afford a faster web server.

-Matt

Originally posted by RackNine
For a 50k offering you'd think they could afford a faster web server.

-Matt

It doesn't work at all from here.

--Shaun

Originally posted by PWH_anthony
Just out of curiosity last month, I went a little "surfing".
I increased the IP by .1 for host rocket, hehe found out they own more then just 2 or 3 pixel brick designs. :P

I count over 10 (dont want to say how many brands they have,just in case he get mad) ;)

Great designs though on all of them!

If a customer has two site designs lined up next to each other and they offer the exact same specs, chances are they will choose the design which looks nicer. I know that I feel safer giving my credit card number to a site with a professional looking site design.

-Graham

Originally posted by graham
If a customer has two site designs lined up next to each other and they offer the exact same specs, chances are they will choose the design which looks nicer. I know that I feel safer giving my credit card number to a site with a professional looking site design.

-Graham


True, but there are lots of people (companies) that could design MUCH more professional looking sites for much less than pixelbrick.

Originally posted by RobotDSquad
True, but there are lots of people (companies) that could design MUCH more professional looking sites for much less than pixelbrick.

Really? Where?

Where are you located? I'll try to name some in the same city.

Southern Cal.

You have to take into account that "professional designs" are defined differently depending on industry.

PixelBrick's design style appeals to many in the hosting industry, but due to that style, they wouldn't make any corporate project manager's short list in other industries such as accounting, consulting, insurance, banking etc.

Originally posted by UmBillyCord
Southern Cal.


http://www.65media.com/

http://juxtinteractive.com/ *Top 3 flash studio, Doubt they'll get you much for less than 30k but they are in the LA area non the less.

http://www.mach18.com/

http://www.evocentrix.com/

http://www.triplecode.com/

http://www.nervecreative.com/

http://www.genex.com/

*Note, most of these are more "Interactive" type places not your straight old php site. There's so many people in LA it's hard to narrow it down, lemme know if non of these will work and I'll list some more. Also, none of these places will be selling you a $100 template. ;)

I'm having a stie designed that will compete with all the site of PixelBrick and it has serious backend programming as well. It is only costing me around $800.

If you find a kid that does work for fun that is elite at making websites, he will do it for 10 times cheaper than you could get anybody else to make it for.


-dennis

In most cases you get what you pay for. ;)

Originally posted by RobotDSquad
http://www.65media.com/

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*Note, most of these are more "Interactive" type places not your straight old php site. There's so many people in LA it's hard to narrow it down, lemme know if non of these will work and I'll list some more. Also, none of these places will be selling you a $100 template. ;)

You said much cheaper. Some of these guys are much higher. :)

My point is that PB/Ceonex does nice work for the price. Don't believe the hype that they did Host Rocket or Rack Fast for $45,000. Until I see an actual cashed check, I would bet the tag was more like $10,000. To me $10,000 for a site with a lot of content, isn't that much. it took me 6 months to design our second site. Our third site took 9 months with three people working on it. I will never do in house again. For us, it really is cheaper to outsource.

Now, if you are a new host and have design skills, then it isn't cheaper. Biut when you consider time is money and that your site will grow over the years, outsourcing to a place like PB is not a bad choice.

Also, I can confirm from in house stats, that a web site will increase sales. We removed all variables on our third release. No new ads, marketing, SE;s, etc... Just a new site. We saw a 25 - 30% increase in sales. Leads to sales really improved. If I can get 25% on a $10,000 investment again, I would be in damn good shape. :)

Originally posted by Dmax
If you find a kid that does work for fun that is elite at making websites, he will do it for 10 times cheaper than you could get anybody else to make it for.
I would be one of those "kids" :)
Ive developped 3 business sites so far, 2 of them for 500$ and one for free :)

Originally posted by UmBillyCord
You said much cheaper. Some of these guys are much higher. :)



Who is much higher? I know for a fact that even Juxt Interactive isn't hire than $30k to start.