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nitGreen
11-30-2009, 06:53 PM
Hi
I would like to hear from you about domain registrar for reselling.
I have option from

netearthone
eNome due to SSL reseller account
eNome due to WHMCS

Do you think .com/£7.99 would be a reasonable price for new comer.

What do you suggest to opt,
Customization of already loaded site OR
use API for integration

Thanks

CanSpace
12-01-2009, 03:24 AM
Are you sure you're quoting the correct price? I believe WHMCS users get discounted enom rates of $8.75 per .com to start (no initial deposit).

And if you ARE using WHMCS, there's not much integration for you to do really.... they already integrate with both netearthone AND enom

HH - Josh
12-01-2009, 07:08 AM
Just get an Enom account with your WHMCS license. Its easy and cheap

Hydro_Host
12-01-2009, 07:13 AM
I use Enom. Their API is very good also.

SiberForum
12-01-2009, 09:20 AM
Hi
I would like to hear from you about domain registrar for reselling.
I have option from

netearthone
eNome due to SSL reseller account
eNome due to WHMCS

Do you think .com/£7.99 would be a reasonable price for new comer.

What do you suggest to opt,
Customization of already loaded site OR
use API for integration

Thanks

What is your criteria for the choice? I suppose that is the price and start up fee. I suppose that would be reasonable chose the cheapest one

keserhosting
12-01-2009, 09:32 AM
If you are looking for cheap registrar enom is pretty well for that.

APX
12-01-2009, 10:05 AM
I just got an account at resell.biz $7.49 for .com

ranjitkgupta
12-01-2009, 11:32 AM
I use netearthone, and am very satisfied with the kind of service they provide. They are simply awesome. Moreover you dont need to pay anything while joining. They also have no minimum deposit criteria. You have to try it to believe it.

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unity100
12-01-2009, 06:31 PM
enom

nothing can beat it.

jrianto
12-01-2009, 10:28 PM
I would definitely recommend Enom. It's the best one out there and has the most comprehensive API.

clarencetey
12-02-2009, 03:53 AM
How is Godaddy API reseller?

Brightverse
12-02-2009, 03:57 AM
eNom is definitely your best bet.

HTTPbit
12-02-2009, 08:58 AM
How is Godaddy API reseller?

I don't think Godaddy offers API access to resellers. Please correct me if I am wrong?

Thanks

citycm
12-02-2009, 11:20 AM
Another vote for NetEarthOne. I find their control panel heaps better than eNom's.

larwilliams
12-02-2009, 11:28 PM
I don't think Godaddy offers API access to resellers. Please correct me if I am wrong?

Thanks

You can via Wild West Domains (GoDaddy's reseller service), but it is terrible like GoDaddy is.

unity100
12-03-2009, 12:20 AM
isnt wild west domains a storefront for selling godaddy's domains ? its not like you can use it automated through the api through whcms or modernbill etc.

314Hosting
12-03-2009, 08:20 AM
We use netearthone and we are satisfied with them. If you're planning to sell SSL certificate then i would suggest you eNom.

rootvps
12-03-2009, 08:32 AM
For domains, netearthone is really good, would definately recommend

IT_Architect
12-03-2009, 09:17 AM
Another vote for NetEarthOne. I find their control panel heaps better than eNom's. I haven't tried them, and not sure that I will because it's a TON of work and expense to switch, but I have been a reseller with Enom for several years. The upside is their domains were a little more expensive, but that's a good thing because the very low cost have traditionally had server and financial solvency problems which will take your domains out of the web in a heartbeat. Enom was able to buy some of them. They don't drive you nuts with advertising. The control panel is reasonably well laid out but slow.(Up to 15 second pages) For at least a year, their site had cookie problems with FireFox. You had to remember to use IE. A low percentage use IE in our field. The cookie issue has since been fixed. Their domain transfer software is not sensible nor reliable in all cases, so make sure you move domains at least a month ahead of their expiration to avoid and issues. As far is support is concerned, it depends a lot on what you consider good. Here is a copy of our current support issue.

11/23/09 - Bulk transfer, order #36989147, initiated for a bunch of .us.com domains from Network Solutions to Enom. The status of the order in the control panel says "Order Complete" If you click on the order, the domains individually read:
Canceled - domain contacts did not respond to verification e-mail
None of the verification e-mails were sent nor did the losing registrar get any notification.
11/30/09 - Bulk transfer, order #37013846, with the same domains plus some more. Notification e-mails sent this time. Two are in the process of transfer, all of the rest read: "Canceled - Transfer rejected by losing registrar" We contacted Network Solutions. They state there is no reason for those domains not to be transferred and have no record that they were requested.
12/1 - Attempt a transfer of one that failed domains from the 11/30 bulk transfer, order #37019531. Pending with no problem.
12/1 - Decided to laboriously do them all one at a time. The account runs out of money. Guess what? All of the ones that failed in the 11/30 bulk transfer, still have their funds tied up so we can't even do them one at a time.
---- Support Ticket ----
12/2 - Support ticket #091202-000080 entered on 12/02/2009 08:17 AM.
"We've got a bunch of transfers that say Canceled - Transfer rejected by losing registrar. They are holding up money on my account so I can't even make an attempt to try to transfer them again. Can you clean those out and credit my account back?"
12/02/2009 05:17 PM - First response, exactly 9 hours later.
"Hello,
Thank you for contacting us to assist with your issue. I will be happy to help you. At this time under your account login, I do not show any transfer ins. Are you looking to transfer out domains? If you have any additional questions about this matter, please update this ticket and I will be able to help you during my assigned office hours. We appreciate the opportunity to assist you.

Regards,
Daniel T.
Technical Support Team
__________________________________________________
Work Hours: Saturday thru Wednesday, 9:00am - 6:00pm Pacific Time
Out of Office: Thursday & Friday"

12/02/2009 05:32 PM - My response a few moments later after checking it out to see if something changed in our account.
>At this time under your account login, I do not show any transfer ins.<

Take a look at #37013846. We did a bulk transfer and it has all of our money tied up in failures: See the "Canceled - Transfer rejected by losing registrar" Those domains were never sent to the Network Solutions to ever get canceled. Then we started doing them one at a time. We found with your system when doing .us.com domains, that if we wait a couple hours between domains, the ones that we could get your system to submit the domains to Network Solutions and then we get the notification from Network Solutions of the transfer request. So what we must have now is our money back in our account from all of the failures of 37013846 so we can do them one at a time until you get your system fixed. We cannot afford to wait, because now some of the domains are getting close to expiring. That's something else that needs to get fixed in your programming. Any time a request is canceled, it's common sense that the funds need to become available again as soon as that happens so this situation doesn't occur.

No response yet.
---- Support Ticket ----

Salient points:
1. The control panel shows "Order Complete" even when they fail. You need to click on the detail.
2. It shows pending even when all but one in the bulk transfer have failed. Apparently the customers know about this problem, but "support" does not.
3. Your money is tied up for transfers that fail, either because of an Enom problem, or legitimately. Thus you cannot use the funds for the failed transfers if one of them doesn't fail in the bulk transfer until at least after the transfer is complete for that domain.
4. It's Thursday today. My assigned support has Thursday and Friday off.

People normally do wait somewhere near their expiration to transfer them so their money isn't tied up. My advice is start this process at least a month ahead of time if you go with Enom. Often it goes very smoothly. Sometimes it's a mess. Perhaps they can't do 3rd level domains like us.com very well.

Concerning Enom support, it depends on your definition of good. You be the judge.

In the mean time, I need to devise a way out of my immediate problem with these domain transfers.
1. If I cancel the transfer request and renew at Network Solutions where it costs twice as much, I still cannot reverse the deposit at Enom meaning I have triple the money tied up.
2. If I transfer the failed domains one at a time to get them through, I will have twice the money tied up because I will need to add the amount of the bulk transfer plus the cost of doing them individually to the account funds. However, there is some risk if they have trouble in which case I would still have to go back to Network Solutions, and then I would have 4 times as much tied up.

Decisions, decisions. Decisions an Enom reseller needs to make.

IT_Architect
12-03-2009, 06:42 PM
No reply to ticket after 24 hours

nitGreen
12-03-2009, 09:09 PM
Thank you all guys for your thoughts, after going through both enome and netearthone, I personally feel its better to go for better for some reasons like.

Domain Names are cheaper for small budget companies [No initial deposit]
Control panel is simpler etc

But for SSL I again need to go to eNom.

andrewtees
12-03-2009, 09:32 PM
I would go with Resellone.net - .com 7.25, .net 6.49 - Has SSL reseller also.

They are excellent.

CanSpace
12-04-2009, 12:48 AM
Thank you all guys for your thoughts, after going through both enome and netearthone, I personally feel its better to go for better for some reasons like.

Domain Names are cheaper for small budget companies [No initial deposit]
Control panel is simpler etc

But for SSL I again need to go to eNom.

Bear in mind it's free to open an account with enom if you have WHMCS. There's nothing stopping you from using enom for just SSL certs and netearthone for domains for example.

Only catch is that enom requires a minimum $100 deposit when you first deposit money...

Bannaz
12-04-2009, 07:05 AM
Enom. :) www.enom.com

assistanz247
12-04-2009, 11:11 AM
I don't think Godaddy offers API access to resellers. Please correct me if I am wrong?

Thanks

Yeah. Godaddy doesn't offer API instead it offers affiliate like setup with different slabs. All the functionality will be simliar to Godaddy website..with tons of links and forcing to signup for Webhosting :(

How about Resellerclub? they offer API and readymade website setup.

clarencetey
12-04-2009, 11:15 PM
Is netearthone really good.I still remember the bad experience with small company like registery.

citycm
12-05-2009, 07:03 AM
Is netearthone really good.I still remember the bad experience with small company like registery.

I've been using NetEarthOne for a couple of months now and they have been great. I have transferred 80% of domains to them (still trying to find time to do the rest) and it's pretty straightforward. The only problem is with .uk domains. You need to get a security key off the registered domain owner (which NetEarthOne will send them), but even that's a simple process. Their live chat support is also really good.

I did open an Enom account and compared all the prices and on majority, NetEarthOne were quite a bit cheaper. I will be keeping the Enom account for SSL Certificates etc, but other than that, I'll stick to NetEarthOne.

citycm
12-05-2009, 07:09 AM
Thank you all guys for your thoughts, after going through both enome and netearthone, I personally feel its better to go for better for some reasons like.

Domain Names are cheaper for small budget companies [No initial deposit]
Control panel is simpler etc

But for SSL I again need to go to eNom.

Also, it would be worth pointing out that if you want to use PayPal to fund NetEarthOne, it needs to be verified. If it's not, they will only allow you to use it once. Other payment options, such as Bank Transfer, etc, do require a minimum deposit. In the UK, the minimum is £50.

Andrew S
12-06-2009, 11:55 AM
We use NetEarthOne and so far they have been great and there support as been top notch cant fault it at all :)

IT_Architect
12-07-2009, 09:20 PM
Enom technical support responded to our tech support request 5 days after our post. During that time the transfers timed out on their own, we spent hours to determine the conditions under which the problem occurs, and came up with our own work-around.

Mike - Limestone
12-07-2009, 11:55 PM
ENom is probably the best reseller option right now. I am not personally too fond of Go Daddy's Wild West Domains.

-mike