Just wondering if anyone knows a host that offers Windows virtual private servers cheaply. I googled for over an hour, and the cheapest I can find is $55/mo. I guess that Windows license really makes them high.

It seems that 99.999% of virtual private servers are *nix.

Cool. I am not sure about that but am looking for something like it. If you could PM me the host which provide that, I would really be greatful.

Sorry that I cannot be of better help.

Originally posted by chrisb
Just wondering if anyone knows a host that offers Windows virtual private servers cheaply. I googled for over an hour, and the cheapest I can find is $55/mo. I guess that Windows license really makes them high.

It seems that 99.999% of virtual private servers are *nix.

To be honest, I don't think you cn do "true" VDS virtualiztion with Windows. I have never seen it.

Originally posted by UmBillyCord


To be honest, I don't think you cn do "true" VDS virtualiztion with Windows. I have never seen it.

True. It cannot be done, unless there was some magic overnight that I am not aware of.

Originally posted by AceWeb


True. It cannot be done, unless there was some magic overnight that I am not aware of.

Well, the $55 one was not a VPS as I had thought. Here are some others though.

Here's one for $25/mo.... http://www.mightyserver.com/NT_hosting.htm

Here's some more...
http://www.maximumasp.com/default.aspx?c=products&p=prices
http://www.hugehosting.com/hosting/virtualprivate.cfm
http://onsol.com/advanced_hosting.html
http://www.pakhost.com/?sect=8&subsect=46&PHPSESSID=715284500b346a36eb1b4758301d47b4

Whaddayathink? :)

I did a quick look, and I do not know, really. To my knowledge I cannot see it being done as TRUE VPS. I will have to look at it more closely, but as far as I know, it cannot be done.

Originally posted by AceWeb
I did a quick look, and I do not know, really. To my knowledge I cannot see it being done as TRUE VPS. I will have to look at it more closely, but as far as I know, it cannot be done.

What do you mean "it cannot be done"? I posted websites above that offer it.

Can VPS with 2% or 5% of the CPU resources and 128MB of RAM can handel Win2k + MS SQL.

MS SQL shouldnt be on the same box anyway, that would create severly bad performance. Win2k is fully capable of putting sites in there own processor and memory space.

Windows is a BAD server. Why? Because it's entire base is for single users. You can not have a real VPS because you can not chroot because there is no root. Windows just sticks things places. Plus everything for windows is so WAY over priced its not worth it. Lets not even mention the total lack of reliability do to the 400billion viruses and hacks for windows servers. You want to host a real site use a POSIX based server.

My favorite saying I heard somewhere once was"Point, Click, admin!" and "MCSE = Must Consult Someone Experienced".

Don't get me wrong, windows makes a great desktop and I get just as frustrated with those crazy people trying to make a POSIX based desktop beat out windows. Each software has its own home.

Mort

It can be done, atleast a control Panel called Sphera claim it can (http://www.sphera.com/)

Now this I will HAVE to lookinto! Anyone want to place bets how long it would take me to hack and take full control of a WINDOWS VPS?

acameron, please confine your comments to the relevant topic. I don't recall anyone asking your opinion about the "quality" of a windows server in this thread. :)

My point was security. Which would be very relevent to a hosting company. M$ has a lot of bugs and VPS is still very new on POSIX boxes, a windows version could have many security holes which could allow a VPS user to break out of the VPS and into the real server. I was trying to give you some advice and make a joke;) I will keep my funnies to myself.

aNc

I wouldn't want to comment here about the quality of a Windows VPS system but the Linux servers are not really free from hacks, bugs and security issues too. We still do hear Linux sites being hacked and so on. The point is not to discredit a Windows system because you do not like them. They have their own merits too.

I tried very hard to understand Linux but until now, my knowledge is relatively limited and each time I ssh to my server, I fear I type the wrong thing. I looked at the linux scripts and do not seems to understand a bit and commands are somewhat difficult to comprehen for a newbie like me.

You are probably more knowledgeable and I do not want to doubt that but as far as deployment platform choices, it is a personal one.

Agreed. I am aware of some of the chroot hacks but atleast it still doesnt give them root access to the server if they hack out:)

Back on topic... :)

I haven't noticed any Window virtual servers specifically saying that they offer root access; but I think I saw at least one that said you could edit configuration files, so I guess that's just as good.

Virtuozo for Windows should be released Q3 of 2003. We shall beta test this on Q2 2003, and start offering to our clients first.

As Virtuozo is, it will provide true VDS solutions under the windows enviroment, not much info has been released yet about this to me yet, but it will be a great project.

Just watch out of it ;)

As Virtuozo is, it will provide true VDS solutions under the windows enviroment, not much info has been released yet about this to me yet, but it will be a great project.

Not sure how this is possible. MS Windows is not open like Linux. So you do not have access to it like you do Linux or FreeBSD. Also, I doubt it will be a true VDS where the OS will allow full root access to install programs or other software. Plus M$ sure as hell isn't going to allow for the breaking up of their software unless they get some more money out of it.

I think the VDS will be just an advanced CP that intigrates what virtualization is already built into Windows.

Who knows for sure? :)

I bet they will want a whole license for each "virtual" copy of the windows OS;) I think I heard about that somewhere in fact.

Originally posted by chrisb


Well, the $55 one was not a VPS as I had thought. Here are some others though.
http://www.pakhost.com/?sect=8&subsect=46&PHPSESSID=715284500b346a36eb1b4758301d47b4

Whaddayathink? :)

Can anyone try there VPS.... They call the reseller package VPS. Hosting companies still dont know whats VPS.
:D:D:D:D

I recently discovered that Pakhost is not a good representation of Windows VPS. Did you check out maximumasp or some of the other URLs that I posted? I just skimmed them, so I don't know much about them.

Originally posted by chrisb


What do you mean "it cannot be done"? I posted websites above that offer it.

I will look into them more how they do it, but a TRUE vps (as far as I know) can't be done in windows (becuase of the kernel, I think). It has been a while, so I will do some more reading.