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dev1
11-21-2002, 07:35 AM
Hi there.
I wanted another ip address for my rackshack server, but before I submit a request I need to have a valid reason why..
The reason why i want another ip address is a purpose a static ip for project development side for my small business. Now this reason won't do i assume.. So if anyone who has a rackshack server and requested additional ip address could you tell me what was your reason..

besides: SSL, Nameserver/DNS, Anon FTP

thank you.

Darth
11-21-2002, 07:43 AM
You can only get an ip for nameservers, ssl etc


The reason why i want another ip address is a purpose a static ip for project development side for my small business

Not good enough ;)

silversurfer
11-21-2002, 07:54 AM
are you thinking of bluffing rackshack with a fake reason? I would go and think carefully in the background myself instead of broadcasting to the world that I am about to lie :D

Azuretek_1
11-21-2002, 08:22 AM
What are valid reasons for IP Justification? -
The following are all valid reasons for IP Address
Justification: IRC Virtual hosts, Private Name servers, Mail servers, Private FTP Access, SSL Sites.


What aren't valid reasons for IP Justification? -
The following are all invalid reasons for IP Justification:
Because i want them, IP based web hosting (unless the site has private FTP or private SSL), more then 16 IRC
Virtual hosts (we don't currently permit shell boxes).

sigma
11-21-2002, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by Azuretek_1
What are valid reasons for IP Justification? -
The following are all valid reasons for IP Address
Justification: IRC Virtual hosts, Private Name servers, Mail servers, Private FTP Access, SSL Sites.


What aren't valid reasons for IP Justification? -
The following are all invalid reasons for IP Justification:
Because i want them, IP based web hosting (unless the site has private FTP or private SSL), more then 16 IRC
Virtual hosts (we don't currently permit shell boxes).

Did you invent these rules yourself or copy them from somewhere? ARIN does *not* preclude IP-based Web hosting as a legitimate use of IP allocations, or justification for further allocations. Any host who thinks otherwise is wrong.

I see people who believe this say it on WHT all the time. I frequently post to correct them. No one ever listens.

Kevin

GordonH
11-21-2002, 11:31 AM
Private Name servers

Unique IP's are not required for this purpose since Verisign-grs changed the rules for the .com registry a couple of months ago.
You can have hundreds of name servers with the same Ip address

Here is an example of two name servers with the same IP:

http://www.crsnic.net/cgi-bin/whois?whois_nic=216.171.64.233&type=nameserver


Gordon

zerphyte
11-21-2002, 11:54 AM
just tell em you need it for ssl and for a special in house application which requires unique ips they won't give you any problems over it.

UH-Matt
11-21-2002, 11:54 AM
Rackshack have been pretty good to us with IP's

We use the reasons they provide in the drop down boxes.

I have 25 IP's on one of my RS boxes

LionHeart
11-21-2002, 01:02 PM
if you have two ip's how does that work with only one nic do they forward the ip's to your server with your server setup on NAT ?

ShadowJK
11-21-2002, 05:01 PM
You can bind the additional IP's to your eth0. You don't need a unique NIC for each IP.

AnonFTP which RS lists as one of the choices for your IP need is almost the same as cvspserver that a development site would need, just different protocol.

LionHeart
11-21-2002, 05:38 PM
how would that work in windows 2000 ?

ShadowJK
11-21-2002, 07:08 PM
If you don't know the system you use, then don't use it. It's as simple as that.

LionHeart
11-21-2002, 08:22 PM
And I can tell you have no manners. I was always taught if you have nothign nice to say then say nothing at all.

But I can tell that you must be lackin that common sense.
Then again its not your fault your parents were to lazy and or ignorant to teach you right.

GoogleBot
11-22-2002, 12:08 AM
I have to agree with ShadowJK, if you do not know the system you are using do not use it at all, and Liqdfire there is not reason to be saying things like that, if you do not like what he or anyone else has to say, then find another forum to post on, and have them answer your questions, but if you had common sense you would know this, right?

LionHeart
11-22-2002, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by Darkfiles
I have to agree with ShadowJK, if you do not know the system you are using do not use it at all, and Liqdfire there is not reason to be saying things like that, if you do not like what he or anyone else has to say, then find another forum to post on, and have them answer your questions, but if you had common sense you would know this, right?

Edit: I found out else where

eddy2099
11-23-2002, 12:29 AM
Well, I have a Cobalt RaQ box and they do have a feature which does bandwidth throttling but require a unique IP address for that to work. So I asked them for additional 2 IPs for that and they gave me without a blink.

Why not explain why you need your IP, I am sure that they would be understanding. Tell them that your project requires a static IP address.

interactive
11-23-2002, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by Liqdfire
how would that work in windows 2000 ?

It's rather easy. If you're not using DHCP it works. Just goto Network settings or whatever (the panel where you enter in subnet mask ip and all that( click advance doto the ips part, and add them.

mushrew
11-23-2002, 05:22 AM
RS needs to work on their IP allocation systems - my subnet always seems to be full even if I need just 1 single IP =/.