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Rockerhard
11-20-2002, 10:03 AM
Hey there,

Spent tons of hours here researching different host for dedicated servers. So much in fact, my head is spinning :) So many choices. I often read about the quality of the bandwidth, and of course the "you get what you pay for" phrases.

Okay, so let's say I don't want to go with the very cheap providers, like rackshack.com, unitedcolo, etc..etc....

What providers for dedicated servers would you consider to be middle line and top line as far as bandwidth , reliability, and support goes?

Thanks in advance,
Chris

runik
11-20-2002, 10:25 AM
Well I would definately recommend rackshack, but since you did specify you weren't looking to go for them, I'd have to say rackspace.com

Rockerhard
11-20-2002, 11:11 AM
Thanks Runik. I also know just because I pay more doesn't necessarily mean it's better than something cheaper. I don't think I checked out rackshack yet. Will now though.

Decisions.....decisions.....

UH-Matt
11-20-2002, 11:14 AM
its rackshack.net not .com :)

Rackshack is good for the money, and i also recommend them as an unmanaged provider - However you can do a lot better if you are willing to spend more.

Look for a box without cogent bandwidth and the pings will instantly increase :)

ThomasC
11-20-2002, 11:20 AM
You should mabye have a look in the dedicated server offers section, and see what bandwidth company's are offering, there should be a few that do not use Cogent in there.

Get some of the better quailty bandwidth.

Good luck.

Rockerhard
11-20-2002, 11:26 AM
there should be a few that do not use Cogent in there.

Thanks Thomas, will do. So instead of Cogent bandwidth, what are the names of the better quality bandwidth providers so I can use the handy search function here?

Apprech..

ThomasC
11-20-2002, 11:46 AM
Level3
Epik
UUNET
Global Crossing
Aleron

UH-Matt
11-20-2002, 11:49 AM
Verio ?

ThomasC
11-20-2002, 11:55 AM
Meh, i had a good list but i hit delete by mistake (no really.)
Undo did not work :( ITS YOUR FAULT MATT! :D

UH-Matt
11-20-2002, 11:56 AM
i swapped your delete and post buttons around!








hax

Rockerhard
11-20-2002, 12:14 PM
i swapped your delete and post buttons around!

So you're the one going around here doing that???? :)

One more thing. Checking out nocster.net now. It says:

The NOCSTER network in our Network Operations Center is connected via PPL Telcom™ & CTSI™ fiber, with Sprint™ OC3 Connectivity & 100MBPS Metro Fast Ethernet drops from Cogent™ & Global Crossing™

As far as connectivity goes, this looks okay because they have Cogent AND Global Crossing? This means if cogent connection is lost, it is backed up by a global crossing connection? Do I have this right? Thanks.

ThomasC
11-20-2002, 12:25 PM
Global Crossing is goooooooood.

What type (spec) of server are you looking for? i could offer a few suggestions.

Rockerhard
11-20-2002, 12:46 PM
Thanks Thomas. Here's the deal.

Well right now I do have a managed dedicated server at bluegravity.com. I am paying $600 per mbit/sec, and could get that down to $400 if I commit myself for 2 years. I have been with them since '97, and have over 220 of own domains on that server. Last month I paid $397, and some of the extra charges included a $50 monthly port charge, $100 managed service fee, $34 for domains over the quota, and $75 for daily backup. I really don't use that much bandwidth. Last month total was 0.23 mbits/sec for a total of $138 in bandwidth fee. This server is very stable, and I don't even remember the last downtime. Good phone support, but I very rarely use it. During the past 5 years only once did I ever have to use phone support after hours, and that was a problem with a script that I had installed.

I want to keep that server for now, and get another dedicated that I can use for slowly building up a hosting business. Specs? Oh I don't really have any particular preferences. I guess I would prefer an intel processor, 60gb storage, at least 512 ram, with at least a 1.5 ghz processor. I am open to any recommendations. Is there really much of a webpage loading speed difference between a 1ghz processor and a 1.5ghz processor? I am looking for something cheaper though with good reliability and uptime, which really shouldn't be too difficult. The nocster sale with $0 setup looks very tempting. It's an Intel Celeron™ 1.7Ghz, 256mb sdram, 300gb bandwidth, 5 ip's, and red hat 7.3. They also say it's a "managed" dedicated. Also, an AMD processor will no way scare me away. No preference really.

24/7
11-20-2002, 01:53 PM
"there should be a few that do not use Cogent in there."


If I use Cogent , I'm dead

DS3 to QWest (45 Mbits)
DS3 to UUNet (45 Mbits)
OC3 to UUNet (155 Mbits)
OC3 to Global Crossing (155 Mbits)
OC3 to AT&T (155 Mbits)
OC3 to AT&T (155 Mbits)

:nuke: :nuke:

BurstNET
11-20-2002, 02:07 PM
<< The NOCSTER network in our Network Operations Center is connected via PPL Telcom™ & CTSI™ fiber, with Sprint™ OC3 Connectivity & 100MBPS Metro Fast Ethernet drops from Cogent™ & Global Crossing™

As far as connectivity goes, this looks okay because they have Cogent AND Global Crossing? >>



NOCSTER uses Sprint OC3 & Cogent FE currently...
We just ordered a Global Crossing FE to be added late next month as well!

Sean R.
BurstNET
System Administration

stp500
11-20-2002, 06:44 PM
I have a server with HostMySite.com. I have been very happy with them & they have a multi DS3 load balanced connection (not cogent). They are not the cheapest, but I've found there prices competitive and they have the best support I've experienced in hosting to date. Good luck!

ThomasC
11-20-2002, 09:12 PM
:D

Rockerhard
11-20-2002, 09:46 PM
Hostmysite.com seems to be a bit on the pricey side of things. $369 monthly fee, $399 setup, for a P3 1.2 GHZ, 256mb ram, 40 GB EIDE harddrive, and a whopping 30gb bandwidth per month. I hope that gets served on a gold platter and the gold platter is ours to keep after using it up.

ThomasC
11-20-2002, 10:00 PM
Have you considered colocation?

Rockerhard
11-20-2002, 10:30 PM
Have you considered colocation?

Yes, and I have a lonely Dell Poweredge 2400 server (http://www.cheaptravel.com/server.jpg) screaming for a home. Don't want to go too much off topic in this thread, so mods take it easy on newbie here :)

I would just like to install a secondary 600 MHz processor before shipping it off, if that is what I decide to do. I've already decided to take the plunge with DV2 for a dedicated server. Shazad was a great help in answering my questions and concerns. I feel like I made the right decision and feel confident choosing them.

But yes, I do have a server I can co-locate if I can find a good deal I can't refuse. Any ideas? It's not one of those slim line type servers, so I guess I will be paying more for rackspace that it will take up?