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Snitz
11-07-2009, 05:56 AM
Hello there,

Yesterday I found out that my domain name expired on september 22th 2009 which 45 days ago and not until yesterday that the domain stopped working. Any ideas on that one?

But my question is, the redemption period is 30 days and the domain has been in there for more than 40 days, shouldn't be already out of the redemption period so I can purchase it back normally?

I'm currently hosting my domain name at Netfirms.com and they're asking 150$ to pull the domain out of the redemption period which is fine but shouldn't it already be out by now?

woods01
11-07-2009, 06:06 AM
This link (http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/gtld-lifecycle.htm) should be of help.

I wouldn't always count on domains being released however. If the domain is of any worth you may find it at auction or immediately taken by a squatter.

NotanAngel
11-07-2009, 07:56 AM
Hello there,

Yesterday I found out that my domain name expired on september 22th 2009 which 45 days ago and not until yesterday that the domain stopped working. Any ideas on that one?

But my question is, the redemption period is 30 days and the domain has been in there for more than 40 days, shouldn't be already out of the redemption period so I can purchase it back normally?

I'm currently hosting my domain name at Netfirms.com and they're asking 150$ to pull the domain out of the redemption period which is fine but shouldn't it already be out by now?

after domain expires some registrars won't release it even after redemption and auction it. If they don't auction, there is anyway about 3 months to wait until domain becomes available for registration. Should you dare to wait and re-register domain, make sure to backorder it (though even this often doesn't help :S)

woods01
11-07-2009, 10:49 AM
I wouldn't suggest any backorder service that won't refund you if the domain is lost. Theres alot of backorders companies and they can't all get the domain.

I don't recall any that don't give you refunds however if there are i'd like to know who they are.

mbulent
11-07-2009, 05:28 PM
please use timeanddate.com to calculate the 75 after the expiry. Try to register the domain around 2:00 PM EST the day after 75th day. Somethimes it is released few days later.

NotanAngel
11-07-2009, 05:30 PM
please use timeanddate.com to calculate the 75 after the expiry. Try to register the domain around 2:00 PM EST the day after 75th day. Somethimes it is released few days later.

oh.. did you ever succeed?

mbulent
11-07-2009, 05:32 PM
not tried personally. I know the time though being a registrar.

Most of the time, you cant get it if tehre is any value on the domain from a domainers point of view.

Best to redeem before release;

Zaffer
11-07-2009, 07:16 PM
Well one needs to figure the domain status at the time.

Registrars may change NS on domain expiry and monetize it. But the domain is technically auto-renewed at the Registry and the Registrar has time until 45th day to explicitly Delete the domain to slip in to Redemption Period (otherwise renewal is confirmed at Registry, even if Registrar is not obliged to let the owner use it, if not renewed by the owner).

During Redemption, the domain would be completely inactive and its Whois would indicate "RedemptionPeriod" (Refer http://www.wsmdomains.com/help/registrystatuscodes.html).

I believe most Registrars have a fixed pricing for Restoration of the domain name, and if that is as high as $150 (as you mentioned), you'd have to pay that amount to get the domain Restored.

At the end of 30 days in Redemption period, the domain gets in to "Pending Delete" (may last up to 5 days) and during this time even Registrar cannot restore the domain.

However, the domain can be restored and given away through back-ordering process, just at the end of Redemption period.

There are more opportunities for Registrars to monetize post-expiry and pre-release of the domain for the outside world, so the best way would be to identify the actual status of the domain (from Internic WHOIS) and contacting Registrar for a renewal/restoration as may be applicable.

Dave Zan
11-08-2009, 03:46 AM
please use timeanddate.com to calculate the 75 after the expiry. Try to register the domain around 2:00 PM EST the day after 75th day. Somethimes it is released few days later.

Or to be exact since it sounds like the domain name's actually in redemption period, count 35-36 days after its last updated date. If it's last updated date is October 30, 2009 and it's indeed in redemption period, count 35-36 days after October 30 to get a "guesstimate" when it'll be available.

mrzippy
11-09-2009, 04:19 AM
I can pretty much guarantee that if you've visited the domain name more then a dozen times in the last few days.. the registrar will most likely keep the domain and put a parking page on it.

Basically, they can see the traffic it gets, and if they think a parking page will bring in more revenue then the cost of them keeping it for themselves... then it makes good business sense for them to keep it.

I think you should consider the $150 redemption fee a lesson learned, and next time don't forget to renew your domain before it expires. :(

jackpx
11-09-2009, 07:31 AM
I think you should consider the $150 redemption fee a lesson learned, and next time don't forget to renew your domain before it expires. :(

Right; I agree; pay usd$ 150 if the domain is important for you.