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pattox 11-19-2002, 12:13 AM acmn - RUSSIAN IT COMPANY have a 3 million USD worth datacenter in Moscow,Russia and they are privately selling dedicated servers at VERY VERY VERY CHEAP PRICES,they are reliable and very fast they are selling them PRIVATELY for sum reason and dont have a website or anything,you can email me for more information eg.theyre email for an i.p to ping,they info i have received is like this:
YanMar 2400
60 gig hd
400 gig bandwith
Linux redhat 8.0 ?
price: $39 USD a month
i CANT OFFER ANYMORE INFO but you can email thunderbird55@email.com for an I.P to thing anyway i am in no way affiliated with this company i just thought i should let you all in on the info i have found...
Wrong forum ;)
$40/month for 400gb, either it's a scam or incredibly bad connection with a horrible server ;)
Also, having no website makes this deal look even more shady.
skelley1 11-19-2002, 12:22 AM lets see, if i were to set up a scam and not be traceable, how would i do this....?
Andrew 11-19-2002, 12:30 AM but I wanna thing the ip now! :D
The Prohacker 11-19-2002, 12:43 AM From Russia with love :D
GPS-Chickon 11-19-2002, 02:34 AM I WANT TO SIGN UP!.......NOTTTT
pattox 11-19-2002, 02:47 AM No the reason that this is so cheap is that it is not in america,no bad connection or scam,do i sense a bit of jealousy? ya cant underline it a scam just cause you cant offer the same deal
pattox 11-19-2002, 02:54 AM and maybe its because the computer or server is made by YanMar,a discount chinese computer manufacturer,theyre not bad but they can be less reliable,you can get a yanmar LER hd with like 2600 mhz for like $USD 40
pattox 11-19-2002, 02:56 AM i do not own one of these servers but im thinking that its a good deal worth sharing with you people,not trying anythin just being friendly
dTuesday 11-19-2002, 03:00 AM pattox,
Do you currently rent a box from them? You sound so absolute that this is the mother-load.
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pattox 11-19-2002, 03:03 AM No i do not rent a box from then,i never even considered it,simply because im tied to a 1 year contract with my 2 other servers.but otherwise i probably would...
Well maybe you could give us a url then?
dTuesday 11-19-2002, 03:07 AM Then how do we know it's not a scam. I mean, it sound like a very great deal.....But, you know what they say "if it sounds to good to be true....". I think that saying is pretty true world wide.
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pattox 11-19-2002, 03:15 AM maybe so all that i am saying is that i actualy found the deal in a classified and i emailed the guy and traced the i.p and it was reasonably fast so i just thought i would share it,anyway if its a scam its a scam although i do not beleive it is....
dTuesday 11-19-2002, 03:19 AM That's fare.
:)
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argonblue 11-19-2002, 03:23 AM Hmm, how about NO you frickin' psycho.
dTuesday 11-19-2002, 03:28 AM ...ok, That's not fare.
:)
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skylab 11-19-2002, 05:10 AM so let us in on the secret. were they a spam group desperate for emails? did they get their cash and move on to their next scam? or what?
<thunderbird55@email.com>:
205.158.62.27 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 <thunderbird55@email.com>... User unknown
Giving up on 205.158.62.27.
silversurfer 11-19-2002, 05:18 AM in any case, isn't email dot com some free web-based email service like hotmail? for a company doing business, that's really highly unlikely. Wait... could it be that they are not doing business? ....
skelley1 11-19-2002, 05:26 AM So you're saying that we're jealous because we see a price for a server from Russia that has prices that are too good to be true? I, for one, don't even offer dedicated servers, so I don't see how I could be jealous.
I'm certainly no expert in Moscow colocation, but if bandwidth were so cheap there, don't you think you'd see a bunch more people doing this?
There is no contact information other than a generic free email address. How do you even know that the IP address he gives you is his?
You post this information in the forum, and then when we put our opinions on it that are painfully obvious to everyone but you, you insult us by saying that our reservations are born out of jealousy? Get a life.
rusko 11-19-2002, 06:40 AM guaranteed bandwidth in russia is expensive. no way they can be doing this.
as for the thread starter, please stop giving russians a bad name.
pattox 11-19-2002, 07:29 AM hosting in russia costs about 1/4 of what hosting here costs.....maybe these guys are discount,notice how it is called wtf? thats cause even i couldnt beleive it but i dont think its a scam because they were listed where i found them,another reason i dont think its a scam is that the guy offered me a month free to try it,usualy scamsters dont do this....anyway loook this is not an offer? im not offering you these servers im openly discussing this deal because i found it too good to be true,otherwise i would have started this thread in another forum...:bawling:
thomas830 11-19-2002, 08:05 AM Originally posted by pattox
hosting in russia costs about 1/4 of what hosting here costs.....
:eek: Where did you get that information from ?
This is one big scam, I wouldn't give them my credit card details, they only have free email address ? why don't they set up email on one of their dedicated servers ? okay wait, there is no dedicated servers :D
silversurfer 11-19-2002, 08:08 AM Alright it isn't a scam. I am sure the 56kb/s modem they connect to your server will provide excellent speeds and uptimes ;)
pattox 11-20-2002, 06:36 AM Typical
GeorgeC 11-20-2002, 07:11 AM This has scam+spam written all over it, and the poster is getting pissed off? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
flitcher 11-20-2002, 11:28 AM Why don't you just post the details instead of enticing everyone. By holding back the details and making someone contact you I'm getting the feeling that your an affiliate or something and will make money off the sale.
Thinge 11-20-2002, 11:37 AM Originally posted by pattox
hosting in russia costs about 1/4 of what hosting here costs.....maybe these guys are discount,notice how it is called wtf? thats cause even i couldnt beleive it but i dont think its a scam because they were listed where i found them,another reason i dont think its a scam is that the guy offered me a month free to try it,usualy scamsters dont do this....anyway loook this is not an offer? im not offering you these servers im openly discussing this deal because i found it too good to be true,otherwise i would have started this thread in another forum...:bawling:
Are you not listening?
Russia's bandwith is way more expensive than US's bandwith and why would they have an ultra fast connection,servers and yet no website and a free e-mail address?
Go figure.
Oh my gosh .. this the second missile crisis.. first in Cuba(1962) and now in Russia.
Maybe they are not scamming after all, :confused:
to share some info.
I remember how much heat united colo took when they first started, same with server beach on other forums. Not every amazing deal is a scam.
But I will say, if a comapny was that well to do, then you would expect a website, 1-800 number. Real email address and some other things, and not a personal ad in some classified.
But maybe it's all over the place in russia, and just some small ad here in the U.S. Who knows.
The main point is, the poster shared the info, and now we all get to make up our minds.
I personally like things located closer to home, it doesn't really make a difference, but it's just how I feel.
Everyones made some really good points, and people can make their desions, with the info that was put out.
Sainthax 11-20-2002, 04:47 PM Bandwidth in Russia is high because 1) they can't afford to have a large number of fiber lines running all over the place so they have to make the best of what they have and 2) they arn't stupid enough to give it away for those kinds of prices and 3) who the hell would get a server thats hosted in Russia?
this has SCAM written all over it
Kulman 11-20-2002, 06:04 PM Originally posted by pattox
acmn - RUSSIAN IT COMPANY have a 3 million USD worth datacenter in Moscow,Russia and they are privately selling dedicated servers at VERY VERY VERY CHEAP PRICES,they are reliable and very fast they are selling them PRIVATELY for sum reason and dont have a website or anything,you can email me for more information eg.theyre email for an i.p to ping,they info i have received is like this:
YanMar 2400
60 gig hd
400 gig bandwith
Linux redhat 8.0 ?
price: $39 USD a month
i CANT OFFER ANYMORE INFO but you can email thunderbird55@email.com for an I.P to thing anyway i am in no way affiliated with this company i just thought i should let you all in on the info i have found...
This is not possible. Here's why:
1. Traffic is way too expensive in Russia for anybody to give out 400 gigs for that money.
2. There are only a few datacenters in Moscow that cost over 1MM (C&W owns two of them). And these people wouldnt sell dedicated servers for that money.
3. Just think logically. No matter how bad the server is and how cheap your bandwidth is - you will not make any profit if you sell it for $39 per month.
phpcoder 11-20-2002, 06:12 PM True, but nothing is impossible. Just highly improbable ;)
skelley1 11-20-2002, 06:48 PM Has anyone gotten the IP yet? Maybe we can do some checking if we had that.
Originally posted by 24/7
Oh my gosh .. this the second missile crisis.. first in Cuba(1962) and now in Russia.
Maybe they are not scamming after all, :confused:
The Russian Server Crisis? :dgrin:
I could sort of stomach someone selling servers for $39/month, although I'd fully expect it to be a 'second-hand' computer (really slow), on a Cogent line in someone's basement. I could still see some people (maybe even me) not minding that.
What I don't get is why someone (well, most people) would want a server in Russia -- nothing against Russia, just that it's practically on the opposite side of the country. I'd suspect that even with multiple load-balanced Tier-1 OC-192 lines, ping times and all will be really long. Plus, with United Colo supposedly trying to get some more $49/month servers (using AMD chips this time), I'd rather pay a $10/month "premium" to host with a company that has their own domain, and is located at least on the same continent, not to mention same country. (Now if there would be more super-cheap dedicated places on the East Coast... I'll give free rackspace to anyone who runs some Internap lines to my house? ;) )
silversurfer 11-20-2002, 10:36 PM Fog.. sure I run them. You just got to pay for it :D
Doh! Should've been a bit clearer.
Although I never did say that your rackspace would include power or a connection to anything... ;)
EDIT: Plus the cost of running InterNap to my house would probably entail digging up hundreds of miles of roads, so you might actually be better of paying for the bandwidth and letting me do the install. :)
hostingsp 11-20-2002, 11:06 PM :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:
Not going to say anithing about this, beacuse there is nothing good to say :)
skelley1 11-21-2002, 12:04 AM hah.
They've already been shut down i would think....
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Received-From-MTA: dns;mail.hotmail.com
Arrival-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 20:03:08 -0800
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freakysid 11-21-2002, 12:10 AM I'll take ten.
Erich 11-21-2002, 01:58 AM Truly ridiculous
Either not post it at all or post all the info. Trying to save us from falling for a scam huh?
:rolleyes:
jolly 11-21-2002, 05:17 AM Any more info about data center.
silversurfer 11-21-2002, 07:57 AM Give it a rest. I doubt it's authentic. Price incredible, No website, Email at a free web based email site don't work. So what do you guys think should be the conclusion?
Furthermore, I doubt Russia has outstanding bw that's comparable to what you can get in the states.
jolly 11-21-2002, 11:36 AM Russian server like thunderbird55@email.com account.
:D:D:D:D
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