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catfished 10-11-2009, 12:09 AM :mad:I've finally reached the end of my rope!!! As much as I love WHT and have been an active member for many years, I will not continue to deal with the ridiculously slow loading pages that you serve thanks to some ad feeding software named hostingcatalog.com. I have complained about this several times and get nothing but lip service but the good news is I will never have to see the below image again: http://catfished.com/whtgoodbye.jpg:mad:
UNIXy 10-11-2009, 12:23 AM Interesting. Can anyone else confirm the hostingcatalog bottleneck? I'm not hitting it for some reason.
Regards
Aussie Bob 10-11-2009, 12:28 AM Hey Ed :) are you on dialup or broadband?
Moonster 10-11-2009, 12:30 AM Im have slow browsing at times, but I myself get tired of seeing the same old ads. get new ads people! (to the ones who are using the ones from back in '91)
mainstreamnet 10-11-2009, 12:35 AM Fast loading for us. Slow at 12 am cst sometimes but im guessing thats for backups. Other then that no problems.
Steven 10-11-2009, 12:55 AM I repeatedly get pages that do not load for several minutes. Often times it just flat out times out for several minutes.
their server structure really is not the best it could be... Come on guys softlayer offers load balancing... you still are using round robin dns.
Side note..
catfished:
edit your hosts file and point that domain to 127.0.0.1
it will probably stop your problem.
Steven 10-11-2009, 01:10 AM http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/1440/meh.jpg
It ended up taking 58 seconds.
This happens every day several times a day.
On both my vpn to los angeles and off my vpn.
mainstreamnet 10-11-2009, 01:14 AM I just cleared my cache and cookies rebooted and tried again. WHt still loads fast for me 1/ 1/2 2 sec max. Maybe im not hitting the same ads as you guys are?
Steven 10-11-2009, 01:16 AM I just cleared my cache and cookies rebooted and tried again. WHt still loads fast for me 1/ 1/2 2 sec max. Maybe im not hitting the same ads as you guys are?
Average page load for me is 3 to 4 seconds.
mainstreamnet 10-11-2009, 01:26 AM Main forum just took
4 secs to load. This may or not be to a backup running.
PAH - Tim 10-11-2009, 02:07 AM Page loads are fine for me. But I am also interested in what type of internet connection you have and how fast it is....
(Stephen) 10-11-2009, 02:10 AM ad block plus fixes it....
Moxie Maxwell 10-11-2009, 02:15 AM I just deal with it. I like this community to much :)
venkatam 10-11-2009, 02:42 AM Hey catfished, this is the first and i guess this will be the last thread that we will ever post on together. I just wanted to say, i'll definitely miss you, and I wish we could have shared more threads together.
Toodles catfished.
Jamson 10-11-2009, 02:46 AM http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/1440/meh.jpg
It ended up taking 58 seconds.
This happens every day several times a day.
On both my vpn to los angeles and off my vpn.
What plugin for Firefox is that?
Pages load really fast here, and haven't slowed down for me.
PYDOT 10-11-2009, 03:01 AM WOW I thought I was the only one with that issue.
Slow loads? It did not loaded to me at all. It stayed trying to load hostingcatalog for ever.
This issue only happened with Chrome on my case.
I was so annoyed I tried with Opera and it worked just fine.
But I don't see this issue anymore for some days now.
TheServerExperts 10-11-2009, 03:01 AM What plugin for Firefox is that?
Pages load really fast here, and haven't slowed down for me.
No problems here also,
I second the request for what plugin that is
040Hosting 10-11-2009, 03:11 AM I did see some slowdowns the past days; but not as bad as the OP is talking about. What is did notice is that firefox in the past did disable disk-caching of images with me which made loading WHT a real challenge. ( somehow this value goes often to false: browser.cache.disk.enable )
MattS 10-11-2009, 03:13 AM For me, WHT craps out about 1AM or so EST. I do get slow loads once in a while, but for the majority WHT loads a ok.
PYDOT 10-11-2009, 03:45 AM I'm getting this issue exactly NOW. This same minute. I now logged with Opera because I cannot use WHT with Chrome anymore.
The first 10 times I tried to load the site it was ad.doubleclic something and now its hostingcatalog
This only happens with Chrome in my case. Right now Chrome freezes as it cannot load something from those servers and the whole site just stays partially loaded.
It doesn't even show the topics, just a big blank space and it tries to load some ad.
venkatam 10-11-2009, 03:52 AM I'm getting this issue exactly NOW. This same minute. I now logged with Opera because I cannot use WHT with Chrome anymore.
The first 10 times I tried to load the site it was ad.doubleclic something and now its hostingcatalog
This only happens with Chrome in my case. Right now Chrome freezes as it cannot load something from those servers and the whole site just stays partially loaded.
It doesn't even show the topics, just a big blank space and it tries to load some ad.
It always seems to load quickly for me but i only use Firefox.
jojoboy 10-11-2009, 04:01 AM I am from India and my connection speed is very slow compared to you guys. But WHT loads very fine without any issues.
Those who have problem with Ads can make use of Ad Block Plus FF Extension
Just my 3 Cents... lol
Aussie Bob 10-11-2009, 04:19 AM ad block plus fixes it....
Yeah, thank goodness for that. :)
Flumps 10-11-2009, 05:16 AM Im have slow browsing at times, but I myself get tired of seeing the same old ads. get new ads people! (to the ones who are using the ones from back in '91)
thats odd...
Join Date: Oct 2009
two accounts?
but anyway back on target...
cant say WHT loads slower then any other site, I am on broadband whats your connection?
sounds like adaware / spyware to me, scanned your hardware lately?
Flumps 10-11-2009, 05:47 AM also...
if you do have broadband can you go to device manager..click on your network device go to propertise and advanced and tell me what the speed/duplex is set too?
if its set to auto neg or 100mb full duplex can you change it to half duplex and tell me if the speed changes at all.
but I guess youve gone now...
oh well, 3248657534523453 other members sure wht wont notice.
(Stephen) 10-11-2009, 06:11 AM that is LORI plugin, I use it multiple times a day :)
Sc00by22 10-11-2009, 09:07 AM I'm using FireFox with the FasterFox add-on and the pages take about 2-5 seconds to load.
WireNine 10-11-2009, 09:19 AM I never had an issue, but you can use your HOSTS file in windows to block the domain so it doesn't load at all that should fix your loading times.
Outlaw Web Master 10-11-2009, 09:51 AM rofl....the Cat dude's thrown his toys well and truly out of the pram.
Ed'll be back for sure.
WHT loads fine for me, it's maybe pumped a little slower than usual from time to time, but that's only lasted a few minutes or so.
I'm curious to know if Ed's getting these slow loads with other browsers.
owm
Stevie21 10-11-2009, 11:16 AM I never have pages load slower than 3 seconds :S
MH-Andy 10-11-2009, 11:21 AM I use AdBlock Plus never had any ad or problem at all
Mekhu 10-11-2009, 11:28 AM I still have a huge issue with people running adblocker software. Yup, I know... it's the Internet and everyone will do as they wish.
I find it disrespectful / rude that you guys block the one thing that keeps this place going... ads.
Maybe if you're a supporting Premium / Corporate member I would understand but not us guys who get to use everything hear for no cost.
bdnero 10-11-2009, 11:44 AM I still have a huge issue with people running adblocker software. Yup, I know... it's the Internet and everyone will do as they wish.
I find it disrespectful / rude that you guys block the one thing that keeps this place going... ads.
Maybe if you're a supporting Premium / Corporate member I would understand but not us guys who get to use everything hear for no cost.
If this is the case, may be WHT can showing add to free member only.
HD Fanatic 10-11-2009, 12:22 PM hostingcatalog gives me problems on some occasions too. Perhaps, they should go back to litespeed. :stickout:
their server structure really is not the best it could be... Come on guys softlayer offers load balancing... you still are using round robin dns.
WHT is back on Rackspace since almost a month ago.
Steven 10-11-2009, 01:44 PM WHT is back on Rackspace since almost a month ago.
Ah yeah thats right. I noticed that replying to a earlier thread. However, my point is STILL valid, they still do not use load balancing.
[root@barricade ~]# host webhostingtalk.com
webhostingtalk.com has address 69.20.37.48
webhostingtalk.com has address 69.20.37.49
webhostingtalk.com mail is handled by 10 mail.inetinteractive.com.
[root@barricade ~]#
Litespeed is not the solution. I have never utilized litespeed for any forum server I manage. It is not needed.
To everyone saying adblock will fix it.... 90% of the time the site wont load for me, it has nothing to do with the ads, its the actual site failing to load. The screenshot I posted on the first page of this thread is a perfect example.
I VPN to a server in los angeles so I can have consistent routes + reverse dns at my home office. Viewing the site on and off vpn results in the same issue, pages failing to load or loading very slowly.
Sam [Vissol] 10-11-2009, 02:07 PM I've never had a problem with WHT's load time...
Flumps 10-11-2009, 02:13 PM I still have a huge issue with people running adblocker software. Yup, I know... it's the Internet and everyone will do as they wish.
I find it disrespectful / rude that you guys block the one thing that keeps this place going... ads.
Maybe if you're a supporting Premium / Corporate member I would understand but not us guys who get to use everything hear for no cost.
I dont use ad blocking software, other than what I get with vista and with kasparksy.
I see the wht adverts and I still dont have slow loading times. hence why a page ago I said it could other adawre on the users computer causing it to load slow or his internet connection again windows set to the wrong settings.
but i guess we will never know for sure if he / she has left wht.
darkeden 10-11-2009, 03:59 PM Interesting. Can anyone else confirm the hostingcatalog bottleneck? I'm not hitting it for some reason.
Regards
Yeah I have not had any issues either. This page alone loaded in 1.5 seconds on a 8mb line.
PEAK-Bobby 10-11-2009, 08:28 PM AD Block Plus dude, its a free plugin. We use it on all of our office machines as well as everyone uses it at home. No need to wait for the ads to load, with AD Block Plus there are now ads!
Steven 10-11-2009, 08:45 PM I know all of you are saying to use adblock. Really there should be no need for this. The system administrators of the servers should be handling these issues, but time and time again we are experiencing problems.
MattS 10-11-2009, 09:10 PM AD Block Plus dude, its a free plugin. We use it on all of our office machines as well as everyone uses it at home. No need to wait for the ads to load, with AD Block Plus there are now ads!
I feel ads give a bit of "color" to WHT. Otherwise it's all blue / white to me cept for the smileys/ buttons.
Jamson 10-11-2009, 10:06 PM that is LORI plugin, I use it multiple times a day :)
Thanks buddy. It's definitely a feature i miss from Opera on my swap back to Firefox, and i have it again. Yay. :)
GameFrame 10-11-2009, 11:28 PM I am connecting from Finland (about 6000 miles distance) and this site loads nearly every time really smooth.
Original thread opener is a Canadian presumably so itīs kinda odd to read about slow loading times unless connection is dial-up.
Outlaw Web Master 10-12-2009, 12:14 AM I give Catfished 3 days and he'll be back. :)
He's probably away on a planned cat fishing expedition.
owm
railto 10-12-2009, 11:47 AM well it loads perfectly fine for me in Ireland, even on my rubbish 3mb line
SenseiSteve 10-12-2009, 12:06 PM Haven't had any problems here with load times. Not using ad blockers either. Maybe I'm just lucky?
catfished 10-12-2009, 02:21 PM After all this hullabaloo, I felt compelled to clarify a few things:
I'm running a broadband connection.
I'm using Firefox version 3.5.3 with Ad Block plus.
It does it when I'm running Windoze XP and or when I'm running Ubuntu with or without Ad Bloc.
I don't experience this on any other websites.
It doesn't happen all the time, for instance it's lightning fast right now, but it happens way too frequently.
Bye yu-all.
venkatam 10-12-2009, 02:26 PM You came back!!!!!!!! =)
freeO 10-12-2009, 02:47 PM For me, it takes up to 5 sec for first page to load and than 1-2 sec for next ones.
Fairly fast assuming thees are heavy pages with lots of MySQL queries :)
robertk1 10-12-2009, 03:00 PM Usually it takes about 2 seconds for the text portion to load, the ads themselves load simultaneously and take 4-5 seconds. For the benefit I receive, I can't complain. Especially since I am usually reading the posts as the ads finish loading.
No problems here in Chicago!
XFactorServers 10-12-2009, 03:26 PM Yeah, lately the forum has been having db time outs , slow loading. This forum is one of the largest forums but there are still solutions out there.
SoftWareRevue 10-12-2009, 03:41 PM For me, WHT craps out about 1AM or so EST...That's when the tape backup runs. We're going to run it less often. So you probably won't notice that again.
Steven 10-12-2009, 03:49 PM That's when the tape backup runs. We're going to run it less often. So you probably won't notice that again.
uhh... why is it bogging down the system? backups tape or not shouldn't do this.
The Prohacker 10-12-2009, 03:57 PM uhh... why is it bogging down the system? backups tape or not shouldn't do this.
Well since a tape backup system normally cannot backup the live table files the system does a mysqldump of each database to file which locks the tables during the process. These are the slow downs at 1am. We are utilizing a multi-tier approach on backups, the tape backup system provided by Rackspace is not our primary solution but it was a good backup of a backup. This is one of the side effects so we'll be turning down the frequency from daily to something a little less intrusive.
Outlaw Web Master 10-12-2009, 04:04 PM I don't understand what all the fuss is about. Tape back ups run at 1am....so why not just go and watch the titty tube for 10 or 15 minutes or even make a coffee, then return when the tape back ups are done. :)
Take some time out.
Oh! ...and welcome back Catfished. :love:
owm
Steven 10-12-2009, 04:07 PM Well since a tape backup system normally cannot backup the live table files the system does a mysqldump of each database to file which locks the tables during the process. These are the slow downs at 1am. We are utilizing a multi-tier approach on backups, the tape backup system provided by Rackspace is not our primary solution but it was a good backup of a backup. This is one of the side effects so we'll be turning down the frequency from daily to something a little less intrusive.
Replicate, stop slave, dump, start slave
No slow down.
Quartz 10-12-2009, 04:09 PM I must be cool, because I do not experience such bog-downs. I think the only time WHT has ever been slow was during obvious times like repairs or maintenance. :D
That and I have adblocks :o
The Prohacker 10-12-2009, 04:10 PM I don't understand what all the fuss is about. Tape back ups run at 1am....so why not just go and watch the titty tube for 10 or 15 minutes or even make a coffee, then return when the tape back ups are done. :)
Take some time out.
Oh! ...and welcome back Catfished. :love:
owm
Well we do want the best experience for everyone all of the time, it is just a matter of what we can accomplish within our infrastructure. I went overboard on our backup routines when we moved back to Rackspace, there are daily tape backups being run on numerous servers along with our own in house backup routines that exist outside of the Rackspace managed backup offerings. Now that things are running well and things seem to be fine, it's alright to step down off of DEFCON1 :) We will still be doing daily tape backups of the DB server, just not the master DB server.
bqinternet 10-12-2009, 04:10 PM Replicate, stop slave, dump, start slave
No slow down.
This is why Steven's management customers like him so much. He solves problems.
The Prohacker 10-12-2009, 04:12 PM Replicate, stop slave, dump, start slave
No slow down.
We do that too, and that is what the basis of the new tape backup routine will be, with the exception of a weekly tape direct from master to insure consistency. My internal scripts always dump from slave, but the managed backup software that Rackspace runs creates the mysql dumps during the process and I cannot really control those except to reschedule them.
gilbert 10-12-2009, 04:17 PM Yea its ok for me most of the time. Wireless could be an issue though when it does crap out? so? I don't know!
Gregborbonus 10-12-2009, 04:30 PM I've personally experienced this for this website a few times.
A couple of things to mention:
rackspace has a horrible backbone structure, which is often confusing massive content streams for attacks, thus the firewall tries to prevent the issue by blocking some of the streams(for those having issues without the ads being a problem).
I know this, only because it was a serious issue with one of my customers, which now resides with softlayer.
For the ads, yeah, they bite, period. One solution I've run, is using a php script to cache the ads for the site, and instead of the ad being called from the outsource directly, it goes through my php script instead(which downloads all content, stores in cache(runs about every 2-3 minutes). When someone visits the site, it loads from my source. MUCH faster load time for the sites.
As for the database backup, Are you rsyncing over to the backup server, restarting the mysql processes, and using that database to do the dump?
I know some people run into issues with certain files being updated while the rsync is in place, which is why I run a loop for each file, rather then rsyncing the entire directory over.(it wont be bothered by file changes of file B, while it's syncing over file A, whereas if you try to sync over the whole directory, it will be bothered if file Y is updated while it's syncing over File C).
Then, using the mysql service on the backup system, simply restart and dump, then you have a backup with 0 interruptions to the database. I personally use the backend connection between the backup server(s) and main server(s) so as not to bog down the connection(if that's an issue, on my system, I backup databases that are too large to house on a single server).
I dont think anything I said will help, but it's where the problem is, and maybe you can find insight in how I overcame the issues.
Steven 10-12-2009, 04:54 PM As for the database backup, Are you rsyncing over to the backup server, restarting the mysql processes, and using that database to do the dump?
I know some people run into issues with certain files being updated while the rsync is in place, which is why I run a loop for each file, rather then rsyncing the entire directory over.(it wont be bothered by file changes of file B, while it's syncing over file A, whereas if you try to sync over the whole directory, it will be bothered if file Y is updated while it's syncing over File C).
Then, using the mysql service on the backup system, simply restart and dump, then you have a backup with 0 interruptions to the database. I personally use the backend connection between the backup server(s) and main server(s) so as not to bog down the connection(if that's an issue, on my system, I backup databases that are too large to house on a single server).
All you need to do is replicate to a running mysql server.
mysqladmin stop-slave
mysqldump --opt --all-databases > backup.sql
mysqladmin start-slave
no disruption to service.
Gregborbonus 10-12-2009, 06:01 PM I would agree, but not completely.
mysqladmin stop-slave, stops all NEW slaved queries and processes.
During this time, new queries cannot be made(from my experience) so if the dump takes a while, that's how long it will be down for.
Please correct if I'm wrong, as I'm pulling from memory and have not really had time to test this outright.
UNIXy 10-12-2009, 08:34 PM I would agree, but not completely.
mysqladmin stop-slave, stops all NEW slaved queries and processes.
During this time, new queries cannot be made(from my experience) so if the dump takes a while, that's how long it will be down for.
Please correct if I'm wrong, as I'm pulling from memory and have not really had time to test this outright.
One could stop the slave SQL_THREAD (without stopping the slave) and then dump all. The IO thread keeps on queuing the jobs. But the best workaround if the dump take too too long is to distribute the DBs across multiple slaves then take a dump on each slave instead (parallel processing vs single thread).
Regards
Steven 10-12-2009, 08:46 PM I would agree, but not completely.
mysqladmin stop-slave, stops all NEW slaved queries and processes.
During this time, new queries cannot be made(from my experience) so if the dump takes a while, that's how long it will be down for.
Please correct if I'm wrong, as I'm pulling from memory and have not really had time to test this outright.
You wouldn't use the replicated slave for anything but backups. Once the slave was started again It would pick up from where it left off at the master binary log.
I use this method on databases of 40gb+. It normally takes about 40 mins to backup the entire database without any slowdown on the site.
Mike - Limestone 10-12-2009, 10:24 PM Interesting. Can anyone else confirm the hostingcatalog bottleneck? I'm not hitting it for some reason.
Regards
I have not experienced this either.
-mike
Outlaw Web Master 10-12-2009, 10:51 PM could it be an isp issue or something outwith WHT and the server provider?
surely if it was an across the board issue then there'd surely be a ton of members complaining....not just the odd one or two.
owm
ayksolutions 10-12-2009, 10:54 PM I also can't say that I have seen any slow loads.
Mike - Limestone 10-12-2009, 10:54 PM could it be an isp issue.?
surely if it was an across the board issue then there'd sure be a ton of members complaining....not just the odd one or two.
owm
Interesting thought. Perhaps the OP could traceroute the domain name and post the results as an added diagnosis?
-mike
Steven 10-13-2009, 12:19 AM /me sighs.
It happens on a multiple time a day daily basis for me on and off my vpn. My vpn end point is 50 miles away from me on 100% pure mzima.
QuickWeb-Roel 10-13-2009, 01:33 AM it is real fast here down under, i'm on Mac OS X 10.6 and safari, WHT loads very fast.
Solarhosts 10-13-2009, 02:43 AM It does load slow for me as well at times, I think it has alot to do with the database also
UH-Matt 10-13-2009, 03:11 AM I don't come here half as often as I used to, mainly because:
1. The performance has dropped.
2. The quality of the site in generally has dropped.
3. The number of banners/posted adverts/self promotion/blatent sig pimping/etc is rediculous. Real content is harder to find on WHT than ever :)
SkylerRichard 10-13-2009, 06:25 AM Interesting. Can anyone else confirm the hostingcatalog bottleneck? I'm not hitting it for some reason.
Regards
I'm not seeing anything about this hostingcatalog,
pages are loading extremely fast.
HostYourIdea 10-13-2009, 08:59 AM The feed server is quite intrusive, and sometimes I have to hit refresh to see WHT, and wait till a smaller ad appears and it seems to load normally again.
hostingcatalog.com are a huge hosting PPC site. Alexa rates them at 175,000 in the US and 25% of their traffic comes from India, and US is second. I don't think you are going to get away from them any time soon unless you get out of hosting. Everyone including WHT is looking for revenue from targeted prospects.
@CatfishEd
While I sympathize with you, and did not say what kind of connection you have. We use Sunbelt with ad blocking enabled. Have you tried Steven's suggestion with hosts file?
It would take more than an ad server to stop me using WHT.
--Michael
Respite 10-13-2009, 09:32 AM While I sympathize with you, and did not say what kind of connection you have. We use Sunbelt with ad blocking enabled. Have you tried Steven's suggestion with hosts file?
Yo he mentioned page 2 - 3 I think...
I could say performance on the board is alot slower then it used to be (Been a guest for about 2 years) only just signed up =)
HostYourIdea 10-13-2009, 10:03 AM [QUOTE=commestate;6441085]Yo he mentioned page 2 - 3 I think...
/QUOTE]
Sorry, I thought I was at the end of the thread. my bad. Honest mistake.
--Michael
woods01 10-20-2009, 02:41 PM Let me bump a slightly dated thread. I visit WHT almost daily and have never ran into any issues what-so-ever.
I've had a few HostingCatalog gripes but they were unrelated to WHT or the operation of WHT.
I feel the ads on WHT even for paying members is among the best placed in the industry. It would be good to have just plain image files instead of animated banners that slow things down but all in all this is one site I don't mind paying a membership for and see'ing ads, all the ads displayed are related to this industry.
SenseiSteve 10-20-2009, 03:11 PM This has to be the looooooooooooongest goodbye ever. Can't say I've ever had any problems with WHT (other than the hack) and am still very satisfied and look forward to posts here everyday.
mynehost 10-20-2009, 03:37 PM Load fine here in Malaysia...
Never had a problem with loading...everything run smoothly...
Alex - Fibervolt 10-20-2009, 04:42 PM I'm in the U.S ... doesn't take long to load for me ... ads don't bother me that much ... everything is awesome imho :D
TheServerExperts 10-20-2009, 04:44 PM Cant complain either, load fine for me here.
BlueHayes 10-20-2009, 08:10 PM Fine here, but why don't you use a Firefox plugin to block anything from loading from hostingcatalague? If I remember correctly that site is owned by inet anyway so I don't see why they can't help you.. like I say though, fine here over in the UK on a normal ADSL connection.
Mike - Limestone 10-21-2009, 11:10 PM Fine here, but why don't you use a Firefox plugin to block anything from loading from hostingcatalague? If I remember correctly that site is owned by inet anyway so I don't see why they can't help you.. like I say though, fine here over in the UK on a normal ADSL connection.
Hmm, what would be the effect be if you completely blocked hostingcatalog? Would it stop WHT from loading altogether for you, or instead speed it all up?
I suppose it might somewhat depend on whether it was blocked on the browser level or the firewall level?
-mike
venkatam 10-21-2009, 11:53 PM It seems like the majority of complaints in this thread are in regards to speed. I'm on a very quick network right now and I do have an unlimited hosting package with my provider. I honestly don't mind letting iNET host webhostingtalk.com as an additional domain on my account especially since unlimited domains is part of my package :)
I only pay 5 bucks a month so we could just split it at $2.50 each and share the account together.
Also, i haven't yet gotten any complaints about the sites loading on shared account, so i think i'm on a pretty solid server. My host probably doesn't over load their servers.
Even if WHT doesn't want to split costs with me on my shared account they could always sign up with a nice unlimited hosting package from Hostgator or another provider. :)
You know, if they just give me a free t-shirt i would just host them for free on my account ;)
venkatam 10-22-2009, 02:57 AM It seems like the majority of complaints in this thread are in regards to speed. I'm on a very quick network right now and I do have an unlimited hosting package with my provider. I honestly don't mind letting iNET host webhostingtalk.com as an additional domain on my account especially since unlimited domains is part of my package :)
I only pay 5 bucks a month so we could just split it at $2.50 each and share the account together.
Also, i haven't yet gotten any complaints about the sites loading on shared account, so i think i'm on a pretty solid server. My host probably doesn't over load their servers.
Even if WHT doesn't want to split costs with me on my shared account they could always sign up with a nice unlimited hosting package from Hostgator or another provider. :)
You know, if they just give me a free t-shirt i would just host them for free on my account ;)
I can't believe that no one thought that this was funny. You people suck :P
I made a sincere effort on that post. And i was really expecting some sort of appreciation from the community. Thanks anyways.
Good bye WHT!
bdnero 10-22-2009, 03:07 AM Yes. It was funny. But seems I missed email alert of that post.
BristolSue 10-22-2009, 07:05 AM Hmm, what would be the effect be if you completely blocked hostingcatalog? Would it stop WHT from loading altogether for you, or instead speed it all up?
I suppose it might somewhat depend on whether it was blocked on the browser level or the firewall level?
-mike
If you use adblock plus, you can just right click on anything or open the plugin and see everything blockable on the page and add a filter to prevent it from loading. Of course, you might not even see the ad with it anyway. ;)
And it's not only for ads, I've used it to block annoying, slow loading scripts at the Washington Post (their "local jobs" thing). I wouldn't be without it, although sometimes it's accidentally blocked stuff it shouldn't. :rolleyes:
ldcdc 10-22-2009, 09:39 AM I can't believe that no one thought that this was funny.
The feedback forum isn't exactly the focus of WHT's membership. It often takes a while to get a reply. 3 hours is nothing, especially when the US is sleeping. ;)
As for your hosting offer, for a moment there I thought you were serious about it, which was quite funny. :)
BlueHayes 10-22-2009, 11:22 AM Hmm, what would be the effect be if you completely blocked hostingcatalog? Would it stop WHT from loading altogether for you, or instead speed it all up?
I suppose it might somewhat depend on whether it was blocked on the browser level or the firewall level?
-mike
No in this case it should just speed WHT up as there would be no more waiting for hosting catalog to load. No need in the firewall level, just block using a browser plugin.. as BristolSue suggests..
If you use adblock plus, you can just right click on anything or open the plugin and see everything blockable on the page and add a filter to prevent it from loading. Of course, you might not even see the ad with it anyway. ;)
And it's not only for ads, I've used it to block annoying, slow loading scripts at the Washington Post (their "local jobs" thing). I wouldn't be without it, although sometimes it's accidentally blocked stuff it shouldn't. :rolleyes:
Exactly the sort of plugin that should be used for this :) No more hostingcatalog hangs, no more WHT hangs = happy community member. Nobody honestly reads that hostingcatalog section anyway do they?! I look at the banner ads around the site but not hostingcatalog links. Yuck!
Mike - Limestone 10-22-2009, 09:53 PM Nobody honestly reads that hostingcatalog section anyway do they?! I look at the banner ads around the site but not hostingcatalog links. Yuck!
The hostingcatalog links are definitely a little bit out-of-sight (at the very bottom of the web page).
-mike
HTTP404 10-23-2009, 06:14 AM Install Kaspersky Security Suite and Block all ads :P
Thats what I have done and I have noticed that so many sites now load som much quicker.
Maybe if you having that bad issues open a support ticket.
Scott.Mc 10-23-2009, 07:26 AM could it be an isp issue or something outwith WHT and the server provider?
surely if it was an across the board issue then there'd surely be a ton of members complaining....not just the odd one or two.
owm
Lots of members choose just not to complain. It's also difficult to correlate everyone's individual issues as there is likely several different issues.
The primary 2 that are being discussed here are the ads and the database write locks, due to badly managed infrastructure.
Admittedly I think the problems are occurring less than they used to (Which used to be many, many, many times per day). Although this could just be because I visit less and less.
I don't come here half as often as I used to, mainly because:
1. The performance has dropped.
2. The quality of the site in generally has dropped.
3. The number of banners/posted adverts/self promotion/blatent sig pimping/etc is rediculous. Real content is harder to find on WHT than ever :)
Fully agree.
ServerNinja 10-23-2009, 09:44 AM I haven't noticed slow WHT load times, because I don't visit here so frequently nowadays, may be once in a week or so...
BlueHayes 10-23-2009, 10:49 AM Install Kaspersky Security Suite and Block all ads :P
Thats what I have done and I have noticed that so many sites now load som much quicker.
and in doing this you are, as a group who do the same thing, causing problems for websites which rely on the ads for the majority of their income. If the ads are positioned well and don't cause any loading issues, there is no need to block them. You should only be blocking ads which are causing you real problems in my opinion.
cmanns 10-24-2009, 02:35 AM Add to hosts
0.0.0.0 hostingcatalog.com
profit?????
Mike - Limestone 10-24-2009, 10:31 PM Add to hosts
0.0.0.0 hostingcatalog.com
profit?????
Lol. And upset iNET a little bit if you publicly release a utility to block hostingcatalog. :P
-mike
Red_wolf6 10-25-2009, 05:17 AM I have 128kbps and I am blocking every Ads or Java and every scripts here.
The loading is pretty good and Happy with it :D
Energizer Bunny 10-25-2009, 06:10 AM It's now close to 1 year now and still 15 infractions point sit under my account ever since wht was hacked. No one took care of the issue, i doubt anyone will like to take care of this issue either. I come here maybe now once ever 2 month or something ? So yaa bottom line is, wht is slacking off trying to keep its forum users happy.
It's now close to 1 year now and still 15 infractions point sit under my account ever since wht was hacked. No one took care of the issue, i doubt anyone will like to take care of this issue either. I come here maybe now once ever 2 month or something ? So yaa bottom line is, wht is slacking off trying to keep its forum users happy.
Do you have a ticket number? If so, PM it to me and I'll take a look.
Otherwise, I think this thread has pretty much run its course. Any WHT-related issues should be sent to the helpdesk (http://helpdesk.webhostingtalk.com).
Alex
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