Regarding the Brightwebsites issue continued from:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89005

How exactly do members want it handled? Do they want the URLs all blocked and the usernames banned or what? I give you the option.

Here is the information I have as it relates to this. I have no reason to believe that users FL Admins and faculty are not the same person, Anthony Ziebell. If you feel differently, please let me know...


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faculty - tech@brightlightwebsites.com
165.228.128.11 (civ-cache1-1.cache.telstra.net)
203.45.83.155 (CPE-203-45-83-155.nsw.bigpond.net.au)
203.45.83.16 (CPE-203-45-83-16.nsw.bigpond.net.au)
203.45.85.14 (CPE-203-45-85-14.nsw.bigpond.net.au)

Signature...
Web: www.brightlightwebsites.com
DevPixel: www.devpixel.com
JADEmail: www.jademail.com
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FL Admins - flanthony@hotmail.com
203.235.26.1 (203.235.26.1)
203.45.83.16 (CPE-203-45-83-16.nsw.bigpond.net.au)

Signature...
FL Admins
http://www.fladmins.com/
Free-Lance Admins, Web-Design and Graphics Design Services
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Domain Name: BRIGHTLIGHTWEBSITES.COM
Administrative Contact: Ziebell, Anthony webmaster@brightlightwebsites.com 102 Donohue St. Kings Park Sydney, 2148

AU 98376170
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Domain Name: DEVPIXEL.COM
Administrative Contact: Ziebell, Anthony blws@bigpond.net.au BRIGHT LIGHT WEB SITES 102 Donohue St. Kings

Park Sydney, 2148 Australia 98376170
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Domain Name: JADEMAIL.COM
Administrative Contact: Ziebell, Anthony blws@bigpond.net.au BRIGHT LIGHT WEB SITES 102 Donohue St. Kings

Park Sydney, 2148 Australia 98376170


FL Admin's URL is registered through godaddy's anonymous service purposely and in this case I feel to hide information.

Although I did not pay much attention to this issue I did take the time to read the entire thread. I myself, believe that FL Admin is Anthony Ziebell.

I think the URL's should be blocked, as well as the usernames... unless somebody proves me/us wrong.

Just my $0.02

IMO, you should email both of them (even if they are the same person) and give them a chance to come clean. I'd say until midnight wednesday. If they have the least bit of decency, they'll come clean and explain everything. Then we can take it from there...

Yes,

I beleive that they are both the SAME person and they SHOULD be banned from WHT. (Thats what I say :))

I'm not a betting man but I'd bet a lot of money on the fact that these two are the same person. Akash's idea is good about emailing them both but I'm not sure of the chances of getting a reply.

In my opinion, the URL of FLAdmin should be *'d out as it seems that an attempt is being made to continue trading with this. The BLWS URL could also be banned but its quite clear that this URL is no longer trading and may cause confusion further down the line when people are trying to discuss the issue (I'm sure e-servers would like to update us on how everything went once its all over).

EDIT: I also think that both userID's should be banned regardless of whether the URL's are *'d out.

Just my 2p :)

He has broken WHT rules, and the evidence is there, so I say ban him as well. BrightLightWebsites should also be censored.

Originally posted by phpcoder
Although I did not pay much attention to this issue I did take the time to read the entire thread. I myself, believe that FL Admin is Anthony Ziebell.

I think the URL's should be blocked, as well as the usernames... unless somebody proves me/us wrong.

Just my $0.02

Gosh Im glad Im not the only one that read that whole thread!

I totally agree.

He has broken WHT rules, and the evidence is there, so I say ban him as well.

I'm not too sure as I haven't been following this closely, but if they are the same person, then i think the only rule he's broken is having multiple usernames. *goes back to read the other long thread*

I still say give them 3 days, if they don't reply then ban them.

Yeah, that's the rule I'm referring to.

See below.

I don't think I post enough.

I seem to be having a time of it today. :(

Originally posted by Fazel3
Yeah, that's the rule I'm referring to. There are others with more than one user name.
Are we going to ban everyone with more than one name?
Some do it, knowing that it violates WHT policy.
Some don't bother to read the rules and don't know it is one.
Should you be banned because you didn't read the rules?

If they've only registered multiple names and hide behind that fact it doesn't warrant a ban.

Admonishment yes, but not a ban.

As one of the customers hurt by Anthony's irresponsible and unprofessional behavior, I say give him three days to come clean and give a specific timetable for paying everyone back.

If he doesn't come clean within this time period, he should be banned until such time as all involved parties have been compensated.

We do members who cheat or defraud other members, but for the time being, I'll just remove the FL Admin account.

This is one crazy story..

I'm sure the WHT mods are very leniant towards most new members, and those that break the rules but can hide behind the fact that they didn't read the rules, but in the case of Faculty/Anthony, he's not only broken the rule about having more than one account, but also broken the rule most members here at WHT have been warned about, i.e. "be polite/no flaming". I come to this conclusion because if indeed he is "FL ADMINS", which there's no doubt about, then he has attempted to deceive WHT members, and that's classified as being impolite and rude.

Anyway, this is my opinion. Opinions are what Chicken has asked for. :agree:

He has blatently bull$hitted everyone here by pretending to be 2 different people, one defending the other.

Its actually quite funny reading back on what fladmin wrote knowing that he is infact faculty.

He should be banned!!

If he indeed did that, then ban him.

I caught a hostcharge guy doing something similiar, although didn't report it cause well, I'm a softy, BAN BAN BAN BANANA!

Because this guy was using multiple identities, and because he was tricking everyone, I lost 70 can dollars in hosting. I also lost 4 to 5 days of sellings with my site.

I hate this guy, even if he's been great during the time he was hosting, he turned out to be frauder. So if fraud is not banned from these forums, I wounder where we are going.

I read the entire thread too. I say ban him and the URLs. Scammers should not be given a second chance.

The other issue that SWR brought up is a good one. I don't understand how some members are able to use multiple usernames here when it is listed as being against the rules. Now, if caught, I think that deserves a warning, but scamming as Brightlights did, does not deserve a warning.

I just give him a few days, I would like to hope there is more to it....:(

I just read this whole thing too. 16 pages!!!!!!

This has to be the same person, can't see a way it would not be. I say e-mail them both, let them make their final excuse, and then ban them.

After reading it:
1. As chrisb suggested we need a forum for people over 21
2. A new Forum called WHTCourt System
3. Keep a Fun score board and see which country leads in fraud (TimPD, Shag, FLA, etc...

But as you think of it.....sad, really.

do the logged in IP's match up (in vbulletin) for them 2?

I believe I am caught up on many things now. Now I wish to know something

A long time ago, I donated $5 to Anthony through paypal. Therefore I wouldn't believe that he would have access to my credit card. You must realize that I didn't PAY him anything. My CC was used in ONE paypal transaction, and I haven't seen any other transactions through my paypal account. This is why I cannot see how you have a chargeback through my name. Is the name BRETTON LUCKABAUGH? If so, this could get ugly. I would like to know what I can do on this issue.

Thanks.

webmaster@wolfz.com (or, if that gets shut down)
newarchdemon@hotmail.com

I've checked all my PayPal history. There is NOTHING going from my account to his... O_o

I had an odd feeling that Archdemon is Faculty lol from reading the last bit of the other thread... hahah, i am NEVER wrong.

Nothing surprises me.

Originally posted by Samuel
I had an odd feeling that Archdemon is Faculty lol from reading the last bit of the other thread... hahah, i am NEVER wrong.

No, he isnt.

After reading up yes I do believe there the same, ban them and have Samuel eat the key chicken ;).

Hmm butterball chicken, hmm porkchops :D.

Critticage, your association, comments, exclude you from having any kind of final comment, just noting, everyone else knows it, they just aren't saying anything about it.

I say ban them all, there all scammers and need to be banned. If they dont get banned all that will end up happening is someone else gets screwed down the road which is the same deal we had going on with Timmy. I also think it would be maybe a good idea to add a 0 tollerance policy for any types or scammers or dishonest people. While the majority of us a good honest people there are the bad apples who screw it up for everyone else and the sad thing is they are usually kids.

I don't think a age requirement of 21 would be fair to the majority of people under 21 that are honest and helpful to the community.

Originally posted by akash


I'm not too sure as I haven't been following this closely, but if they are the same person, then i think the only rule he's broken is having multiple usernames. *goes back to read the other long thread*

I still say give them 3 days, if they don't reply then ban them.
Why don't you go and read up on the post before you put open your mouth? All I can see you are doing is 1. uping your post count, and 2. Wasting my precious bandwidth. :mad:

Originally posted by dherman76
do the logged in IP's match up (in vbulletin) for them 2?
/me smacks himself in the head. :rolleyes:

Back to what chicken asked; I think they whould be x'ed out & banned, but maybe leave it up to the deadline that eservers gave him to answer back to them then do so. The only problem I got, is that if they are banned before we get the full story ( after all the legal stuff goes down ) will eservers be allowed to post further information on this case? And will we be able to comment? If not, I say wait to ban untill we have more information. Not just for our hungry ears, but the WHT community has obviously been a great help to the case, and we don't want to hinder any other possible evidence that might come through?

Ban em burn em and hang em out to dry.
Of course like timmmmmmmah they will be back under a new name with a new business posting and advertising again in a week.

This topic is not going to end :)

Originally posted by dherman76
This topic is not going to end :)

No, and I'm sure it will be plagued by posts such as "oh no im out of popcorn" and "oh you can share mine" and "this topic is not going to end". :rolleyes:

No, and I'm sure it will be plagued by posts such as "oh no im out of popcorn" and "oh you can share mine" and "this topic is not going to end".

Very True, There should be a rule against pointless posts like that!!
I personally get pissed off when i get the email to say someone has replied to a thread.....

....open up my browser and see something like that.

Originally posted by ArchDemon
I've checked all my PayPal history. There is NOTHING going from my account to his... O_o

No, but since your site was hosted on his server he could have easily created an email address under your account and use that to set up a fraud paypal account.

Why you would be paranoid. But my name is Brett Luckabaugh from United States. Check the whois on wolfz.com AND wolfzgamez.com
Anthony Ziebell is from Austrailia.

CritticAge runs a game from critticage.com. His name is Andy.

I run www.wolfz.com and wolfzgamez.com

We are affiliated in the way that we both know Anthony. But also, how could I be the same person when I AM PROSECUTING AGAINST HIM. He frauded us, but I currently don't see anything taken from my account.

HE USED OUR ACCOUNTS to create these things. This does not mean we are the same people.

Check our IPs, history, times, you will see there is very little or no connection.

Look before you talk. If you'll see my first post on this topic, you will notice I had no idea what was going on, but as I see that everyone is in an uproar, I would advise you that I do now know what is going on, and agree with most of your statements.

I had access to a personal MSN account of Anthony's. He has not been on for days, and I was a very close friend of his. That stands to reason that he has given up on everyone and go into hiding.

I would bid you watch what you say. Accusing me of being a fraudlent person is an insult to my integrity.

And? you;ve just posted more of a reason to suspect you're anthony ahha, incredible....

Check my client. I run 12-***-***-***.client.insightbb.com

This is located in Bowling Green, Kentucky, in the USA.

It is proved that Anthony is in Austrailia. Therefore this would be impossible for me to be the same person.

Why would I NOT be defending Anthony if I was him? I AM ENGAGING IN AN ARGUMENT FOR MY OWN IDENTITY. This is increulous. I refuse to argue any longer. If you cannot accept me as the webmaster of wolfz.com and NOT the administrator of brightlightwebsites.com, then you obviously have limited intelligence. Check my birth records. I was born on June the 10th, 1985. I am currently 17, and I attend Greenwood High School in Bowling Green Kentcky. My zip code is 42103. Check my records versus his.

You persistance in an obviously over-and-done-with matter of this identity 'crisis' is null and void, and we should get on with the bigger discussion on what the hell happened to all the money? I for one would like to continue with the question "Could he have used my credit card directly from paypal without going through paypal?"

ArchDamon: I'm not claiming to know the truth about anything, however, Please excuse Samuel, he feeds off of his own obnoxious behaviour.

It looks like there is also a Daniel Ziebell who goes by the WHT name "nousername" and is also linked to brightlightwebsites! :eek:

12-***-***-***.client.insightbb.com


Hey, you've looked my website.
I was just looking at my SSL stats, that's the only reason I recognized that.

Do BAN the names, but wait a few days, because the thread with the 16 pages will be very hard to read if everything is ****-ed out ;)

Originally posted by Monte
Ban em burn em and hang em out to dry.
Of course like timmmmmmmah they will be back under a new name with a new business posting and advertising again in a week.
Long live capitalism. :emlaugh:

I was looking at new hosts. That's why you see me :D

I obviously won't be able to use BLWS anymore after they finally get shut down for good.

As for banning, go for it, but leave me out, as I just got here :P

Well, as it seems everything is quite alright with us, Sammuel, take this as an apoligy for being rash with you. I just want to assure you I'm here for the ride as much as you are.

As for Anth's many usernames, I don't doubt it at all. I'm quite worried of what he may do if he can still manipulate me.

Thanks for taking the time to understand the perspective. My intention was not to insult, in fact I don't think I did, it was a hunch, one that looks to be inaccurate (Hoped you would have noticed the sarcasm posted being = I am NEVER wrong), I've just seen this clan of people damage so many people it's sickened me, but then that might be the veal.

I say we ban and censor all things related to faculty/blws/fladmin and a few other hidden nicks? (if he can have 2 nicks, what is stopping him from having more?)

On a related note, chicken mentioned that there are other member with multiple identities defrauding other members, they should be banned on the INSTANT too.

That we (I can't really say we, notice the newbie tag :P) need to perform a route. If you don't have it already, add an IP detector that checks for multiple IPs on users (it's a start).

Sammuel. Thanks. I suppose I'm just a bit touchy on the 'you're an imposter' issue ;)

Originally posted by net-trend
On a related note, chicken mentioned that there are other member with multiple identities defrauding other members, they should be banned on the INSTANT too.
The problem is, is that's it's almost impossible to catch them. Folks setup domains with false info, use multiple IPs to access WHT etc...etc. The mods do a great job here, but I don't think they have the resources or the time for this type of crackdown.

Look at Timmy. He'll be here forever. Just uses different names, domains, IPs etc. No way you can stop that from happening. I wish there was. :(

something has to be done. see the '150gb for $20' offers from 'pixelONE' at 'v3host'. looks like timmah, smells like timmah...

on the topic of banning, ban the usernames and any websites that are still up - leave the brightlight url so people would be able to discuss the issue and do a search.

Keep him active because I should imagine a full apology will be on the way - ban him after that :)

Originally posted by hosticle
Keep him active because I should imagine a full apology will be on the way - ban him after that :)
I somehow don't think we are going to see any kind of apology. Fraudsters are normally unsympathetic towards their victims, otherwise the remorse would have probably kicked in by now.

Even though i am not a webhost company, I would say we do not want anyone to spoil the reputitions of other hosting companies. Dont give a chance to someone who steals their customer's credit card numbers. Most of faculty'z customers according to him were from WHT itself. Now what will they think about the forum and its members, obviously not very good. And what is the gurantee he will not do it again after coming back ?

I might be off topic, since the question is banning for making more than 1 username at WHT

I know I posted earlier, but I didn't "vote."

I say ban him. I go along with whoever said we should have a zero tolerance towards anyone that defrauds forum members from within.

Originally posted by Samuel
Critticage, your association, comments, exclude you from having any kind of final comment, just noting, everyone else knows it, they just aren't saying anything about it.

I will bet my life Brett (ArchDemon) is not Anthony (Faculty). I have known both of them over the internet for quite a while and I was just setting your accusation straight.

*Edit* Brett has proven it just fine.

Originally posted by rusko
something has to be done. see the '150gb for $20' offers from 'pixelONE' at 'v3host'. looks like timmah, smells like timmah... That's because it is Timmah!

Aussie Bob there is a way to stop him from coming but it may not be legal ;):D.

I just wanted to say what i know I am pretty new to WHT barely know anythony ..... His site and all his customers sites were down for one day then his site went to a parking page but i belive all customer sites are up i heard he might be at some kind of graduatian party... Ill try to get in touch with him

I have a few words for him I believe.

And as a side note, how long will our sites be able to be up? Anyone know?

Thanks.

ArchDemon, probably 24+ hours (it's been up for a while) so get your data backed up! ;)

i heard he might be at some kind of graduatian party... Ill try to get in touch with him

Graduation party!!....isnt that theory out of the question since we discovered that his alter ego was also posting here?

I could be wrong

Hmm this is getting VERY weird. Could be anth? :D

That he is at any type of party. He HAS been not showing up on MSN for 2 days, however. I am thinking hiding, except for a few posts?

I still obviously have no clue what's going on :P

Hello. I'm currently trying to get the money Anthony stole me back form 2checkout.com.

I don't why, but they call him M. Robert. Anyone knows what name he could have stolen this time?

If I was involved in fraud of this magnitude, I definitely wouldn't be shameless enough to go to a graduation party, but that's just me ;)

Why dig up such an old thread Ankit?

I think just a couple of days ago, there was a post from someone claiming that he is Anthony and that he's sorry and that he had repaid all the money. So Ankit probably went digging it up after that. I could be wrong.

OK Where to start i am a friend of anthony and that thread was by him it was done from a school comp.

To put it simpily anthony moved and is now on a pair-gain line so had no access to brodband and he is to stubern to use dialup.



now i have no idea the extent of what he has done and this is what he told me a while ago "The guy i was getting my webspace of (cablestudios) deleted my account with no warning and told me that one of my customers was spaming and he dident tell me who or anything just deleted all my stuff and all of my customers stuff and i got really pissed at him and got chargebacks on all my transactions to him, all of my customers were not charged for the last month so none of them got screwed,"

anyway long story short he "transfered the money last week and you should get it soon"

anyway i dont know what happened just the basics that he has told me so if you have any questions i will try to answer them.

i also see him every weekday so if you have anything u want me to ask hime just post it here.


finaly i am just his friend so i aint involved of any of his ****.:)

Firstly,

Mr Rob/faculty/Anthony or whatever you want to call yourself
I find it quite amusing how you think everyone around her is stuipd/dumb and after all you did you think we are going to feel sympathy for you…


The guy i was getting my webspace of (cablestudios) deleted my account with no warning

As for your claims, well to be quite honest you can say what you like to try and fool people but the truth is what you and I know….

I think eServers has been more than helpful with you after speaking to your father and mother and providing evidence of your unlawful acts.


he dident tell me who or anything just deleted all my stuff and all of my customers stuff

Another lie, I though you would have learnt by now, did you ever keep in touch with your clients? If you did you would know that 90% of them got their backups from the servers when we re-activated them for five days from the suspended status(seven warning emails and even a conversation on him MSN account occurred prior to suspension)


and i got really pissed at him and got chargebacks on all my transactions to him

Since when did you have multiple identities? If I recall correctly seven different credit card names and numbers where used to make purchases….

Chargebacks and you did them ? NO
The chargebacks were from YOUR clients whos credit-card numbers you had used to make payment to eServers...



I’ve received a dozen PM from WHT members asking where this case with Anthony of BLWS was at…

Well after collecting and creating a document 33 pages long of evidence of what Mr Anthony had done we were ready to hand it over to the fraud team in Australia but upon talking to his parents and there concern over what there son would go through and the consequences of this, we came to an agreement that they would make full payment in excess of 10,000 and we would not pursue this any further.

From my understand from the company which has been dealing with this in Australia, They asked for a 3yr term on making back the payment to eServers and a document with amount due and dates was passed onto the family.

It has been more than ten weeks now, since we have heard anything from the family.

Quite frankly, I believe myself and eServers have been more than lenient in this case than what most others “hosts” would have been.


anyway long story short he "transfered the money last week and you should get it soon"

Another lie, which account are you transferring money into when we have not given anyone our account details to make payments to….

Anthony this is your last chance, quite playing games – we have given you more than enough time.

I next port of call will be the FRAUD TEAM in Australia and a legal court case against him…


-Shazad

Shazad - You've been more than lenient, but now is the time for action. Do what you need to do. By the sounds of it, his parents are as bad as him. :eek3:

I agree!

Shazad - I'm from Australia and if I can do anything for you, in relation to this matter, I am more than willing to lend a hand. PM me if you need to....

Originally posted by Aussie Bob
Shazad - I'm from Australia and if I can do anything for you, in relation to this matter, I am more than willing to lend a hand. PM me if you need to....

Thank you very much for your support, ill be sure to let you know if we require any assistance.

-Shazad

Seeing as this has been brought up again... has anyone else noticed that the URL works again: http://www.brightlightwebsites.com/?

Firstly I havent read the whole story here.. But from what I can tell they have gone. SO banning the URL / Usernames probably wouldnt affect them in any way.

HOLY CRAP!!!!!

That thread took forever to read! However, it was very frightening in the sense that a 16 year old boy could do something like that.

I had always thought Faculty was a cool guy, with the XtremeMasta issue, etc... I even commended him, back then in that thread. He genuinly seemed like a great person.

I think all of his accounts should be banned, along with all of the URLs.

I'm sorry but I'm still in somewhat of a shock about this. I truly thought he was a good guy....wow.

Originally posted by CritticAge
Just so you do not jump to conclusions - The owner - Anthony - and the owner of that website talk and he just said he would direct it to that website. The owner of www.wolfz.com is not Anthony.
Thanks... I wasn't making accusations btw just thought it looked a bit strange.

Come to think of it, I remember the name 'Wolf Software' but thought it was a customer of blws.

Jim_UK - Yeah, he was, they just talked (as I did) with him last he was on MSN. He told me that he is sorry for what he did and his parents are paying back all the funds....

heh Anthony is going to be working at McDonalds for the rest of his life to pay his parents back for that one :D

Originally posted by idoogleceo
heh Anthony is going to be working at McDonalds for the rest of his life to pay his parents back for that one :D

The irony, he did and may well still work at McDonalds. :D

*

Well then that explains why we cant get hold of him, he still hasnt paid a single $ back to us, look like we goto get the authoritys involved gave this kid a chance, but he is taking the p**s.

Imran

Originally posted by Mr Rob
na he doesnt he quit there a while ago, his perants wont even let him near the computer and they take the keybord with them whenever they go somewhere, he called me the other day asking if i had any spare keybords :P.


P.S i am not anthony i am one of his friends who just wanted to know what he did without going through 43pages, also just wandering has he started paying you back yet or is that the reason he moved to castle hill.
Maybe you could PM cabalstudios, Anthony's contact details?

Moved ? :D

Should get very interesting.

he said to me this morning "We are paying $500 a month back to him".

i can give cablestudios his details but you all have to edit your posts geting me outa the whole thing just incase he goes here and finds out it was me.

Message a Mod. They can take care of it for you.

Originally posted by Mr Rob
he said to me this morning "We are paying $500 a month back to him".

i can give cablestudios his details but you all have to edit your posts geting me outa the whole thing just incase he goes here and finds out it was me.

If you would PM me those details that would be nice, we havent received a single dollar, dont know where he gets $500 month from. :(

Imran

cabalstudios contact me on icq.

You know i know the right people that can get your money back..

Regards
phillip

An update on this.

We are in TALKS with Anthony and his family to get this resolved asap.

I hope this will help/detur any other individual or group of people, from even trying to get away with this, as it wont happen, someone somewhere knows who you are and will help us to track you down.

Imran