Here is a link:

http://www.cpanel.net/windows/overview.html

Anyone have a test server yet?

It looks amazing. I try and try with Linux, but it is looking like Windows is my first love :) And where I make a living.

I am thinking that Windows 2008 and Enkompass are going to be a very interesting combination.

Dave

Wow, looks promising. I remember when it was first announced and everyone was excited. It died down a bit, I bet it'll be as good as their cPanel/WHM maybe better.

Also looking forward for some reviews.

What? When? Where? Im looking at Cpanel website every day for, uuuu :eek: 2 years now and it doesnt come out of the beta. I also did not received any RSS news from them.

Is it really out? Like out for production? Non beta. Hippy, hipu windows hosting? ;)

I posted this without even opening your url, I hope it doesn't require 4 Windows server to run like they initial planned.

Also, does anyone know how this will work now with Microsoft new licenses? As you all know they changed their licenses, and this affects people that use Windows Server to sell hosting, as they call it a managed license...

That's a great news:)

Well it looks great. High Availability. Wow. It will costs to deploy, but you can really offer this is a premium. I really like they used the same looks.

Im not sure why they used another name, I would just have used cPanel W or something like that. What really would be amazing, if they integrate someday Windows cPanel with Linux cPanel, just like another control panel I wont mention here does. This way you can offer both features of Linux and Windows together, as they run in a cluster.

The Wintel control panel will bring some interesting changes to the industry. Let's see what happens in a year or two from now.

Regards

Very interesting :) Just wish they had an online demo or something.

Some very interesting features - resellers within resellers?

Just wish they'd put online a demo so we could all have a look.

I'm not sure if perhaps the reason for the different name, if that when they do eventually integrate Linux support into Enkompass so it supports both platforms, they can justify the different pricing setup (and likely higher pricing) etc...

This is awesome.
We had been waiting for this for a long time.

Regards,
Alons

Hopefully it's not too late in the game ...

It looks very good. Hope the license pricing are same as CPanel.

I had been checking their site fairly regularly thinking it would never really happen, so I was very surprised to find it last night! I had a sneaky feeling that around the Cpanel Conference would be a heck of a good time to launch it :)

I wonder if maybe a host or two that happened to be deeply involved in the BETA may be the first one to offer it???

Is Linux really that scary to you people?

I mean, with all these control panels making it so you don't even have to really touch the OS, why would you want to pay a fee to MS just so you can run a server?

Then you have a lot of good free stuff like CSF firewall, rootkit scanners and all that.

It's so easy to format a HD and install Linux now it's not funny. WTF?

Seems to be just in time for the cPanel conference that starts on Monday.

Is Linux really that scary to you people?

SOMETIMES :)

I mean, with all these control panels making it so you don't even have to really touch the OS, why would you want to pay a fee to MS just so you can run a server?

MY WINDOWS 2008 VPS IS PRETTY CHEAP, $35 960MB of RAM.

Then you have a lot of good free stuff like CSF firewall, rootkit scanners and all that. WINDOWS FIREWALL IS OK TOO.

It's so easy to format a HD and install Linux now it's not funny. WTF? I GUESS AT LEAST FOR ME IT IS THE YEARS OF FAMILIARITY WITH WINDOWS THAT COUNTS FOR SOMETHING

See CAPS above.

But there is a spot in my technical heart for Linux Cpanel, for sure! But since Cpanel is what allowed me to go there in the first place, I figure I will try the Cpanel for Windows.

That looks so cool! I can't wait to try it!

We are excited about the launch as well :D

We are excited about the launch as well :D

Hello,
I cant wait. Are you planning on hosting a demo like the unix version?

Hello,
I cant wait. Are you planning on hosting a demo like the unix version?


Within due time however we will be doing some live demos at the upcoming cPanel Conference next week are you attending?

Oo interesting, defiantly be taking a look at this. Not too sure about the need for AD integration- will make licenses more pricey. But the idea of having a panel with a consistent look for Linux and Windows is very appealing.

Would be cool if Cpanel/Enkompass could interoperate at some level, for things like sharing DNS servers

Is Linux really that scary to you people?

I mean, with all these control panels making it so you don't even have to really touch the OS, why would you want to pay a fee to MS just so you can run a server?

Then you have a lot of good free stuff like CSF firewall, rootkit scanners and all that.

It's so easy to format a HD and install Linux now it's not funny. WTF?

Not too sure why you found the need to post this :). There is a clear market for both and you need Windows servers for .Net hosting, Sharepoint or if you want to offer Exchange etc.

Looking foward to giving Emkompass a try, its been a long time in beta.

Within due time however we will be doing some live demos at the upcoming cPanel Conference next week are you attending?

Unfortunately Not,
I do see alot of potential for this as well. I cant wait to see the hosted demo as this would be great when I get ready to introduct Windows Hosting to my product line.

Oo interesting, defiantly be taking a look at this. Not too sure about the need for AD integration- will make licenses more pricey. But the idea of having a panel with a consistent look for Linux and Windows is very appealing.

Would be cool if Cpanel/Enkompass could interoperate at some level, for things like sharing DNS servers



Not too sure why you found the need to post this :). There is a clear market for both and you need Windows servers for .Net hosting, Sharepoint or if you want to offer Exchange etc.

I completely agree. That should be made on the next level. Inter operate both Linux and Windows version together on some services.

So they share resources in a type of cluster environment.

Doest someone know the price scheme for this? I could not find it on the cPanel website, its says it wil be per account. I just hope they dont go the Parallels approach on having a piece of cake of every host earnings.

I completely agree. That should be made on the next level. Inter operate both Linux and Windows version together on some services.

So they share resources in a type of cluster environment.



Right now I can already see some layers that overlap. The DNS can already be separated on the Linux version. So makes you wonder if the windows one can integrate with it rather than running it's own? It be a pain for us to have to run two sets of DNS depending on whether it's windows or linux.

Supposedly cPanel 12 is adding a lot more of the cluster like support. Makes you wonder if maybe cPanel 12 is not going to come and instead it'll be a gradual migration to Enkompass. So Enkompass adds support for linux and gives you the option of two different ways to keep track of user accounts. Then people who are currently on single server linux become part of the Enkompass system.

I know I'd love to see it all together. Give us a lot more efficiency having servers with hardware tailored to specific tasks.

Right now I can already see some layers that overlap. The DNS can already be separated on the Linux version. So makes you wonder if the windows one can integrate with it rather than running it's own? It be a pain for us to have to run two sets of DNS depending on whether it's windows or linux.

Supposedly cPanel 12 is adding a lot more of the cluster like support. Makes you wonder if maybe cPanel 12 is not going to come and instead it'll be a gradual migration to Enkompass. So Enkompass adds support for linux and gives you the option of two different ways to keep track of user accounts. Then people who are currently on single server linux become part of the Enkompass system.

I know I'd love to see it all together. Give us a lot more efficiency having servers with hardware tailored to specific tasks.

I hardly see that ever happening. cPanel guys are smart, they know their business. Its Linux that made them what they are today. Im 100% sure if they ever cluster Linux and Windows it will be as an option, not as a must be. Just like you can also run Enkompass on a single server but its not recommended, still its an option.

Also, cPanel needed to launch a Windows version to compete in the market. Im sure cPanel Linux will always be their number 1 profit.

Windows Server 2008 is a great product but its really hard to compete against free. Linux will always be the datacenter king, as Windows is costly, and with their new licenses changes even more. You can add so many things to a Linux server you cant to a Windows Server. Some are great ad dons even paid for cPanel Linux.
So, Linux is free, a bigger users base and more software, plugins, addons, etc. You can be sure Enkompass will never have so many pugins from third parties.

Enkompass is for other types of users. If someone wants hosting in Windows, he must pay for it. So its a premium. Hosts are not dumb. They will pass costs to the clients. And those that really want or need Windows are more then able to pay for it. Not only is Enkompass more expensive to run from the host perspective but for a client as well. They have some benefits for it, but the major benefit is just for softwares that can only run in Windows. There is absolutely nothing you cant do in Windows that you cant in Linux if we talk about services. But there always are 4 or 5 softwares that only run in Windows. And its that userbase that will buy a Windows Hosting.
We only have Windows Server for XX platform of specifics internal softwares. If there is an option to choose between Linux and Windows, we always go Linux, unless the Linux version is a ripped version with less features. Users see the control panel, they dont care if its Linux or Windows, unless they need a specific technology that only runs on one of those platforms. But imagine having from a single hosting account both at the same time from the user point of view? That would complete it. Windows Server is only really powerfully if you can access the OS with Remote Connection, but most people forget you have the same with VNC, except nobody needs a GUI for a server.

If cPanel clusters Enkompass with cPanel Linux it will exactly the other way around. It will be to benefit Linux users, so they can use ASP and SQL from their linux account as well. Remember, cPanel is not only the name of their Linux control panel but also from the whole company that develops its, cPanel Inc. So unless they decide to change to Enkompass Inc, I don't see this ever happening.

I might not have explained it well enough I'm talking about product convergence. Right now the windows brand is supporting a clustering system. The goal according to cPanel themselves is to bring this same thing to the Linux version. In each case they can run single server or multi server it's up to the provider. So what I think we'll end up seeing is a point where you have the choice of your authentication server type. So AD or LDAP for example. Then you have all your bolt ons: Apache, IIS, MySQL, SqlServer, Smartermail ect.

Obviously single server you'd have some limitations so if you choose Linux you cannot run IIS and same idea Windows you do not run Apache.

If this is the plan I'm not sure exactly how it'll all play out. It could be where slowly the legacy cPanel is phased out. They no longer sell old cPanel licenses and they offer incentive to make the switch to the new cPanel.

They could go the other way and continue to offer them as different products. I can guarantee though they're going to be doing per user model in Linux at some point as well. So for the panels themselves they could keep them separate but the ability to merge the clusters together who knows. I just really think eventually it's going to be one single panel called Enkompass or cPanel.

Is Linux really that scary to you people?

I mean, with all these control panels making it so you don't even have to really touch the OS, why would you want to pay a fee to MS just so you can run a server?

Then you have a lot of good free stuff like CSF firewall, rootkit scanners and all that.

It's so easy to format a HD and install Linux now it's not funny. WTF?

Of course you have to touch the OS wether or not the panel is there, the panel does not manage your server and keep it secure.