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kosmo
11-15-2002, 07:46 PM
Hello Damon,

we had an email exchange 1,5 months ago and none of my problems was solved. Now I have a bigger problem.

You may remember: I was verified and became unverified due to the fact that I removed my verified VISA card from my account (it was no more valid, so I just deleted it and added the new one). The PayPal system will no more verify VISA although it will lead me to the "Lift this Limit" or "Get verified" screen which accepts VISA and displays the VISA logo -- ALTHOUGH VISA IS NO MORE ACCEPTED AS A VERIFYING METHOD!

Now, I was stamped as "unverified" (although I had been verified) which is very negative for my business and people asked me why. Nevertheless, I was able to withdraw my money.

AND NOW COMES THE GREAT NEWS: Without any warning, my withdraw limit (which is the withdraw limit for international unverified) was "raised" to 500$ (very funny it was raised, since I had no limit before!). Tried to withdraw funds to my bank and your system informed me that my limit is no more unlimited, is not 500 US$ as announced by PayPal, instead it is equal zero US$ and showed me the link to "Lift this Limit" WHICH WILL SHOW THE VISA LOGO AND I CAN ENTER MY VISA A THOUSAND TIMES BUT YOU WILL NOT VERIFY IT.

Damon,

Is this some kind of a game? Is this a joke? Should I accept this as "serious business"? What the hell shall I do with my f*****g money if I can not pay with it and if I can not withdraw it? Why didn't you warn me to withdraw my money before you change your TOS in the middle of nowhere?

Why the hell do you still accept VISA as a method to get verified since you know very well that VISA is no more accepting this method?

Why don't you inform me WITH BIG CAPITAL LETTERS THAT I DO NOT HAVE TO EXPECT ANY MEMBER NUMBER WHEN ENTERING VISA? WHY DO I HAVE TO EMAIL YOU TO GET INFORMED ABOUT THIS?

Follow this link: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_seal-confirm-me

and watch the BIG VISA LOGO ASKING YOU TO GET VERIFIED. WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN BY THIS WHEN YOU CAN'T VERIFY A VISA CARD HOLDER?

Of course I already removed PayPal as a payment method from my website. This is not much for you but it will get much as more people learn how you work. But I still have a last question:

Tell me: What do I do with my money which is my legal property? Don't tell me about your TOS (which you changed today without warning), don't tell me about VISA, don't tell me about God and how the world was created. Tell me just this: How do I get my money?

kosmo of
cpanelthemes.com
paypal: sales@cpanelthemes.com

Haze
11-15-2002, 08:04 PM
Maybe you should try and solve this off the board or at least in PM?

silock
11-15-2002, 08:16 PM
I dont think Damon owns paypal, he just works there...

Steven.C
11-15-2002, 08:18 PM
Isn't paypal owned by EBay?

silock
11-15-2002, 08:20 PM
Your Right. Damon can't possibly own Ebay.

Mbarb
11-15-2002, 08:48 PM
mmm.. seems they gave 15 days notice about the TOS change..



Tell me: What do I do with my money which is my legal property? Don't tell me about your TOS (which you changed today without warning),



Withdrawal Limit for International Accounts
Notice Date: October 31, 2002
Effective Date: November 14, 2002
Starting on November 15, International members may withdraw up to an equivalent of $500 from their PayPal account to their local bank account prior to becoming International - Verified if they live in one of the following countries:

kosmo
11-15-2002, 09:21 PM
Question: why don't you solve this off board?

Answer: Last time I tried this, I got (I) no problem solved and (II) false information from a PayPal co-worker (later she admitted that what she proposed was not possible). So, instead of playing email ping-pong again, I chose WHT as it is the place where most problems get solved if made public.

Mbarb: How and where did you get this? I never saw this notice.

And no answer to my question: How do I get my money?

kosmo

Mbarb
11-15-2002, 09:42 PM
When logged in on the default tab (My Account) On the left side is a heading "Whats New" Look for the link to the Policy Updates




Mbarb: How and where did you get this? I never saw this notice.

intellec
11-15-2002, 10:11 PM
This thread is confusing! Get to the bottom line! Who screwed who out of money and/or services? What are you really looking for?

Aussie Bob
11-15-2002, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by LiNuX
Isn't paypal owned by EBay?
No, actually we own PayPal. Picked it up for $87.50 on an ebay auction. ;) :D

interactive
11-16-2002, 12:13 AM
aussie considering reselling it ;)

silock
11-16-2002, 01:22 AM
Is your account frozen? Otherwise, just withdraw it to your bank account. If you can't do that, maybe you could send it to a friend and have them withdraw it.

edude
11-16-2002, 01:35 AM
Damon might not be listening, but i'm sure he might be reading :)

Lurleene
11-16-2002, 10:51 AM
Jeez, Damon is a very, very nice person, and extremely helpful.

If I were you, I wouldn't be swearing at him. :eek:

Chicken
11-16-2002, 01:03 PM
And I'd contact him off-board: http://webhostingtalk.com/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=3236