batcavenet
11-15-2002, 02:45 PM
I am thinking of developing a custom freehost system - and looking at rackshack and wondering- what if I actually used 400 gigs would they still keep me?
Just how bad is cogent bandwidth / and lets say I got their 10mbit unmetered plan- how much can I actually use.
Also how are they on support issues - lets say someone abuses the system - and I deal with it- would they get upset and cancel me? freehosts have to deal with a lot of abuse issues..
I have a fairly steady flow of new users after being in this business a long time (free hosting) but I want to make sure I take the right approach if I go off partnership and go on my own :)
Thanks!
Jeremy
XanTium
11-15-2002, 07:52 PM
Additional Gigabytes of Transfer will be $1.50 per Gigabyte.
cogent hasn't very good peerings , but if mixed with other carriers they are ok.
clocker1996
11-15-2002, 07:55 PM
cogent is just fine for web hosting
if you got their 10mbit unmetered plan you'd be able to do 3.4TB a month I believe.
Mango
11-16-2002, 06:22 AM
Originally posted by clocker1996
cogent is just fine for web hosting
if you got their 10mbit unmetered plan you'd be able to do 3.4TB a month I believe.
I agree with you, but I wouldn't even try to push more than 2TB a month over a 10Mbps capped link, because of the saturation and slowdowns you will run into when your traffic peaks.
Carl
netdude
11-16-2002, 01:17 PM
dude... come on man... i go to a page, i can *feel* the difference between whether its on cogent or not... lol... its just bloody hilarious in that sense... and my ISP peers directly with cogent... heh... i mean... a nissan micra would get a family of 5 from point A to point B... but would u really wanna do that?
Originally posted by clocker1996
cogent is just fine for web hosting
if you got their 10mbit unmetered plan you'd be able to do 3.4TB a month I believe.
ZiCmaN
11-16-2002, 01:22 PM
Okay, I know I have seen threads and threads about cogent, BUT honestly only visited their site on yesterday evening. I mean they are the CHEAPEST place on the planet, right? I mean besides someones basement;)
Is the bottom line here that they are inferior to others such as RS? Of course this is just your opinions I know, but I am curious?
:D
netdude
11-16-2002, 01:25 PM
heh... i host 2 freehosts off my own custom software... you better make sure your anti-abuse tracking is in realtime and uses ratios to auto-disable accounts... otherwise, you WILL get screwed at any 'cheaper' b/w provider, including rackshack... that is actually a professional company... simply cuz they don't want to give up the time n effort into putting up with the bullsh*t DMCA complaints/etc...
i mean... i've got my software tuned to a point of realtime bandwidth and referer monitoring on a site-to-site basis... and i still watch the top 25 b/w using sites like a hawk... (theres a 'ruleset' that u can use to determine whether a site is being used legit or for abuse)...
unitedcolo is totally off the list on hosting a freehost... their b/w is sweet, but plain and simple: their AUP is VERY harsh... ANY complaint and they completely wipe your server without giving you ANY access to data... period... entire server... happened to me once... for some bullsh*t complaint from RIAA involving a ~6 zip files less than 2MB each... (this wasn't off my software, the idiot client as running homefree for his old members and i didn't know of it)...
unitedcolo reformatted the entire box n just gave me a new root pass
harsh, eh? and ucg realized it was a freehost too
hmm
Originally posted by batcavenet
I am thinking of developing a custom freehost system - and looking at rackshack and wondering- what if I actually used 400 gigs would they still keep me?
Just how bad is cogent bandwidth / and lets say I got their 10mbit unmetered plan- how much can I actually use.
Also how are they on support issues - lets say someone abuses the system - and I deal with it- would they get upset and cancel me? freehosts have to deal with a lot of abuse issues..
I have a fairly steady flow of new users after being in this business a long time (free hosting) but I want to make sure I take the right approach if I go off partnership and go on my own :)
Thanks!
Jeremy
netdude
11-16-2002, 01:31 PM
RS uses true BGP4... (not like some of the bullsh*t BGP4 that some of these providers make up to make their yipes feeds seem like they are anything more than a backup in the event of their primary cogent feed going down, etc, etc, tc)... so yes, RS is MUCH MUCH MUCH better... :) so in the end, some of these newbie providers with their impressive BGP4 (strictly used for marketing, not reflecting their backbone; kinda like that discussion in another thread regarding nac and cogent... and how they have 2 service levels... 1 thats regular... 1 thats based around cogent with some private peering... ... ... and others claiming #2 as #1... just because #1 sounds better) setups are nothing more than cogent bandwidth... ... ...
if u take note: i never said cogent was unsuitable for hosting... i just said it was bloody slow, relatively speaking... and everybody, don't go ranting on about the pricing, i have personally found some companies using very impressive bandwidth at comparable prices... makes unitedcolo seem like a mediocre deal... so its not a matter of cogent being the cheapest... its a matter of the rest of you being too lazy to search properly... :P lol... :)
Originally posted by ZiCmaN
Okay, I know I have seen threads and threads about cogent, BUT honestly only visited their site on yesterday evening. I mean they are the CHEAPEST place on the planet, right? I mean besides someones basement;)
Is the bottom line here that they are inferior to others such as RS? Of course this is just your opinions I know, but I am curious?
:D
ZiCmaN
11-16-2002, 01:36 PM
:D
Thanks netdude! True there is probably some truth to folks being to lazy to search, etc.;)
Hostkookster
11-16-2002, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by netdude
dude... come on man... i go to a page, i can *feel* the difference between whether its on cogent or not... lol... its just bloody hilarious in that sense... and my ISP peers directly with cogent... heh... i mean... a nissan micra would get a family of 5 from point A to point B... but would u really wanna do that?
:D Hell no! I had a micra - try taking that on a trip through the mountains.:D I could barely drive myself.....