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SoftWareRevue
09-16-2009, 03:50 PM
What would you like to see on WHT?

Leave it the way it is? Expand the current vBulletin options to include things like Groups, Galleries, etc? Add an arcade? Maybe even a casino? Change the look and feel? If you were to add something to WHT to enhance the community, what would it/they be?

UNIXy
09-16-2009, 04:29 PM
I personally think the search feature has a lot of room for improvement. It doesn't seem to produce good results when searching for a combination of words.

Regards

Steven
09-16-2009, 05:17 PM
get rid of the wiki for tutorials. no one uses it like they used to use the technical/security tutorial section.

I can't remember the last time i went to the wiki.

I will never post a tutorial again because of this.

Outlaw Web Master
09-16-2009, 05:36 PM
What would you like to see on WHT?

Leave it the way it is? Expand the current vBulletin options to include things like Groups, Galleries, etc? Add an arcade? Maybe even a casino? Change the look and feel? If you were to add something to WHT to enhance the community, what would it/they be?

I would like to see a "Thanks" button because they're so nostaligic and retro. :stickout:

I would like to see a Shoutbox.

I would like to see a "Who's viewing this thread"

Also, what about adding some more new skins and having a skin changer.

Nah......scrub all of that, they're crass. I actually like WHT the way it is, although the arcade would be a go'er. ;)

Now that you've got me thinking, what about a "Rate this Mod" button. :)

owm

bear
09-16-2009, 08:10 PM
Now that you've got me thinking, what about a "Rate this Mod" button.
Rate which modification? :angel:

darkeden
09-16-2009, 09:04 PM
Get a pm explaining your infraction if your an old member.


Rewards for writing tutorials as most of them are 2+ years old and kinda dated.

HostiaWeb
09-16-2009, 09:49 PM
Hello

I would like to suggest an advanced paid listing system like sitepoint. The sticky system can stay as it is but added paid features for normal advertisement threads such as a border around the topic, bold topic title, featured listing, colored topic etc etc.

Also a iTrader system like digitalpoint would be great as well which works as an reputation system and users can add positive , negative feedback which will greatly help few buyers/sellers .

daz07
09-16-2009, 09:51 PM
I don't think this site would really benefit from an arcade... I'd stick with webhosting ;). As to what you should add, I have no idea, but I'd appreciate a new look.

SC-Daniel
09-16-2009, 10:48 PM
I don't think this site would really benefit from an arcade... I'd stick with webhosting ;). As to what you should add, I have no idea, but I'd appreciate a new look.

A "Rack My Server" game would be webhosting related :D

Anyways, I'm not too sure what you could enhance :-/ I do agree that the search function could use some work, though.

MikeTrike
09-16-2009, 10:59 PM
A "Rack My Server" game would be webhosting related :D

Anyways, I'm not too sure what you could enhance :-/ I do agree that the search function could use some work, though.

I almost thought you said "Rate my Rack" :P

ZKuJoe
09-16-2009, 11:35 PM
I vote a chatroom (not a shoutbox since people will use a shoutbox instead of posting threads which is bad for the forum).

Aussie Bob
09-16-2009, 11:42 PM
What would you like to see on WHT?
Avatars. :)

bdwarr6
09-17-2009, 12:12 AM
Avatars. :)

agreed 12345678910 10 characters and 10 words, please be happy

IGXHost
09-17-2009, 12:45 AM
Avatars is definitely something I'd like to see enabled. Perhaps a reputation system?

ZKuJoe
09-17-2009, 02:46 AM
I suggest hiding post counts and implimenting reputation. You can change the promotions to use reputation (which can be directly affected by posts so it can be monitored still) and account age.

Post counts are no longer an accurate measure of somebody's worth on the forum nor does post count have anything to do with one's knowledge, experience, qualifications, or status.

Aussie Bob
09-17-2009, 02:51 AM
. . . Post counts are no longer an accurate measure of somebody's worth on the forum nor does post count have anything to do with one's knowledge, experience, qualifications, or status.
Of course post counts indicate a measure of "worth" on WHT. The larger the post count the more active and the more interaction the user has on WHT. This is a measure of worth in itself. It's not everything, but it's something.

Reputation systems are open to some serious abuse too. They only seem to work in kiddie based forums.

IGXHost
09-17-2009, 03:30 AM
Post counts are no longer an accurate measure of somebody's worth on the forum nor does post count have anything to do with one's knowledge, experience, qualifications, or status.

I can't exactly agree on this. I understand there may be spammers or people who simply don't make as resourceful and helpful posts as others may but it does measure how active you are in the community and I believe that is still worth something.

After all, not everyone would judge one's knowledge, expertise, or reputation based on their post count on a forum anyway.

ZKuJoe
09-17-2009, 04:35 AM
Of course post counts indicate a measure of "worth" on WHT. The larger the post count the more active and the more interaction the user has on WHT. This is a measure of worth in itself. It's not everything, but it's something.

Reputation systems are open to some serious abuse too. They only seem to work in kiddie based forums.
A measure of worth? Maybe for some, but the amount of useless posts would deminish greatly if post count wasn't a factor anymore.

As for the reputation, I didn't users handing out reputation. vBulletin's reputation system is pretty advanced and very easy to configure to prevent abuse while maintaining a fair and balanced system. ;)

I can't exactly agree on this. I understand there may be spammers or people who simply don't make as resourceful and helpful posts as others may but it does measure how active you are in the community and I believe that is still worth something.

After all, not everyone would judge one's knowledge, expertise, or reputation based on their post count on a forum anyway.

I'm just speaking on behalf of the forum users that ignore post count all together because, based on past experience, post count is not accurate in terms of a person's "worth" because it's usually the people that mostly value post count are those who tend to reply to every thread even if it's just with "Google is your friend".

All I'm saying is quality over quantity. :D

Aussie Bob
09-17-2009, 04:58 AM
A measure of worth? Maybe for some, but the amount of useless posts would deminish greatly if post count wasn't a factor anymore.
The longer you have participated and the level and frequency at which you have participated, is a factor for determining a member's "worth", if there is such a thing. Trust me. I'm an Aussie and I know boats. ;)

DesignBear
09-17-2009, 05:05 AM
As said above, a "thanks" button might be good or perhaps a reputation status where it shows amount of thanks under the persons name on their posts.

It would probably encourage people to post more quality responses to question threads.

ZKuJoe
09-17-2009, 05:17 AM
The longer you have participated and the level and frequency at which you have participated, is a factor for determining a member's "worth", if there is such a thing. Trust me. I'm an Aussie and I know boats. ;)

It's hard to argue the "worth" of post counts with the member with the highest post count. :P

Bannaz
09-17-2009, 05:22 AM
An avatar would be a nice addition! :)

Aussie Bob
09-17-2009, 05:23 AM
It's hard to argue the "worth" of post counts with the member with the highest post count. :P
Dennis has the highest post count. I might get closer if they allowed posts to count from the Social Issues forum. :D

ZKuJoe
09-17-2009, 05:39 AM
Dennis has the highest post count.

Post counts are no longer an accurate measure of somebody's worth on the forum nor does post count have anything to do with one's knowledge, experience, qualifications, or status.

I rest my case. :laugh:

Patrick
09-17-2009, 08:37 AM
get rid of the wiki for tutorials. no one uses it like they used to use the technical/security tutorial section.

I second this motion. I'm sorry but the Wiki is simply awful, in every imaginable way - it just is! The old method of posting tutorials in the FORUM was preferred. Please bring it back. =)

Respite
09-17-2009, 08:43 AM
I'm sorry but the Wiki is simply awful,
I disagree... The wiki has bought me alot of business... I would be sad to see it go...

I think leaving WHT the way it is would be ideal... Things get mis-used IE Reputation systems... Though whatever really... Do what you want... If I don't like it I won't use it...

Patrick
09-17-2009, 08:48 AM
I disagree... The wiki has bought me alot of business... I would be sad to see it go...

I like to think visitors to WHT come here primarily for the forum and not the wiki.

The method of posting tutorials to the forum was the tried, tested and true way until everyone got all "Web 2.0" and decided a wiki would be a fun thing to do... :mad:

SoftWareRevue
09-17-2009, 09:01 AM
Thanks for all the feedback peoples. Keep it comin'! :wht:

Jamie Edwards
09-17-2009, 09:06 AM
While old habits die hard, the Wiki makes perfect sense for tutorials. Multiple people cannot contribute to one opening thread, and eventually the author of the tutorial will leave or stop updating it... meaning the content will go stale.

With it being on the Wiki and in the authoring domain of all members, it is a lot less likely to happen. Unfortunately, getting people to contribute their knowledge to the Wiki seems to be hard. Perhaps there are better ways of integrating the Wiki with the forum.... suggested Wiki articles (automatic, or not) in threads? Suggested threads in Wiki articles?

Patrick
09-17-2009, 09:13 AM
While old habits die hard, the Wiki makes perfect sense for tutorials. Multiple people cannot contribute to one opening thread, and eventually the author of the tutorial will leave or stop updating it... meaning the content will go stale.

I'll agree with you in theory that a Wiki is a much, much better way of handling tutorials ... however, if you look at how many tutorials were posted to the forum as opposed to the wiki, it's blatantly obvious where they belong. (Speaking of such, where are the technical tutorials on the wiki? I can't even find them!)

Dark Light
09-17-2009, 09:20 AM
To be honest I don't see the Wiki as the best way to delivery tutorials; personally I think there should be an option of either using the Wiki or the tutorial forum - some people just don't want their work updated or modified by others. If you've spent hours on a tutorial and the knowledge and experience to produce it, what gives someone else the right to update it if you don't want it updated?

That said, apart from the tutorials I believe the Wiki is a good place to get factual (or at least semi-factual) information, but it needs a lot of work and regulation to ensure everything fits in uniformly in regards to presentation, categories, naming and content. It also needs to be tied (some how) more into the main forum, if you want it to survive.

Someone mentioned a shoutbox or chatroom - at one point I would have said this was a good idea, but unless an IRC chatroom (or similar) is tied directly into WHT, I don't really see the idea as worthwhile. I know there already exists an unofficial IRC chatroom elsewhere. ;)

There are other comments and suggestions I would make, but I don't feel this is the place for me to voice them. ;)

Biju
09-17-2009, 09:30 AM
What would you like to see on WHT?

Leave it the way it is? Expand the current vBulletin options to include things like Groups, Galleries, etc? Add an arcade? Maybe even a casino? Change the look and feel? If you were to add something to WHT to enhance the community, what would it/they be?

1. Something like sitepoint

2. Search feature should be improved.

3. Thanks button would also be quite good.

eLief
09-17-2009, 01:29 PM
Decrease the amount of advertisements, especially the annoying pop out in the top corner.

jordanriane
09-17-2009, 01:50 PM
I'm another for avatars. :)

I was going to mention a different color scheme/setup for the forum, but I get away with greasemonkey and changing the css that way, so I can deal with the current style.

catfished
09-17-2009, 02:37 PM
I vote for avatars.

You could limit their size to 60 X 60 pixels or so and limit the file size to 10 or 20 k or whatever you like to limit bandwidth consumption.

JLHC
09-17-2009, 03:16 PM
I vote for the "Thanks" button. :wht:
It will not only be a reputation system but it will also reduce many of those spammy responses with the same contents (eg. Check out the offer forum!). :rolleyes:

Mike V
09-17-2009, 03:21 PM
I'm another for avatars. :)

I vote for avatars.


+1 again for that. Although I personally prefer they be disabled for display by default. Webhostingtalk is the "cleanest" site I visit in terms of all the little add-ons for vB, so the focus is more on the conversation. When improvements are made I hope it stays that way :).

MattS
09-17-2009, 05:17 PM
I vote for some avatars. WHT is like the only site I visit that doesn't have them.

An arcade would be cool.

Another style would be nice.

Nix the corner ad it's annoying and messes up WHT's functionality sometimes.

Respite
09-17-2009, 05:41 PM
Nix the corner ad it's annoying and messes up WHT's functionality sometimes.
Ye thats becoming a joke I really hope they move it... I now refuse to even look at it... always stuffs up the top corner page... grrr...

darkeden
09-17-2009, 05:53 PM
Ye thats becoming a joke I really hope they move it... I now refuse to even look at it... always stuffs up the top corner page... grrr...

Got a picture? I have a ad blocker that i cant remove so I have only seen 5 ads in 3 months.

Tristan Perry
09-17-2009, 05:53 PM
I quite like it the way it is. Certainly, I don't like the "social networking" thing that vBulletin have been doing. If I wanted to social network (per se) I'd be on Facebook and Twitter, not a message boards ;)

Perhaps making the offers boards pay-only (as I suggested before) to keep away kiddie hosts who will only harm WHT's members, but other than that I'm quite happy with things as they are.

anon-e-mouse
09-17-2009, 06:00 PM
I vote for the "Thanks" button. :wht:
It will not only be a reputation system but it will also reduce many of those spammy responses with the same contents (eg. Check out the offer forum!). :rolleyes:
You wanna bet? :stickout:

Hastings
09-17-2009, 06:27 PM
I *really* like the idea of offering ebay-style options for inexpensive thread promotions in the advertising forums - Bold, border, background, etc. I also like the mentioned idea of itrader, although WHT would probably make better use of a custom reputation system than a standard vB plugin.

As for this "rep" system I mentioned above - why not make a system where customers and clients can make a thread and link it as a + or - rep on a specific member? Ex: If I were your webhost and you were giving me a + review, you'd also choose my username / company name and +/- rep below the post textarea.

...Which leads me to one final idea which may or may not actually be useful - a company index (possibly wiki powered) where companies have profiles and employees are listed, press releases posted, etc.

Arcade? Really? No comment on that one...

Anyway just rambling, there's always room for improvement, but *please* don't over-do it... one of my favorite things about WHT is the lack of pointless features.

Keith W
09-17-2009, 08:46 PM
Get rid of signatures

CrazyPenguin
09-18-2009, 12:55 AM
I wouldn't mind the addition of a Semi-dedicated Forum section under the Web Hosting Main Forum. The way the forum is set up now there is no good place to post topics on Semi-dedicated forum issues.

I am not big on the the implementing an arcade. IMO WHT is better of sticking to web hosting forum issues.

The wiki is near to useless for my purposes. And most topics are out of date or do not apply to anything useful for my needs.

For the most part I would rather WHT remain unchanged. Let Sitepoint and Digitalpoint have their own bells and whistles, but I see no advantage to implementing anything they have to offer at WHT.

JLHC
09-18-2009, 01:25 AM
You wanna bet? :stickout:
Well I am sure that there will still be those spammy responses, but the forum rules can be amended to prevent those posts from being posted, eg:-
If you agree with a post or wanted to post the same responses with the poster before you, just click "Thanks" instead of posting again.

Sparrow-Sean
09-21-2009, 12:20 AM
I think a Million Bucks for referring members to WHT would be a great suggestion!

Sam [Vissol]
10-12-2009, 07:54 PM
I think that members should be rewarded somehow for posting useful content. Rewards could include; A Member of the month award or Free premium membership.

The addition of Avatars in the forum postbit could help give members more of an identity.

Other than that, I'm sure that a fresh new forum skin would be beneficial!