I suppose this is not the first time your here that, but Bright Light Web Sites seems not to exist anymore. My site's down, their's down and I got to notice. The only thing I got is an e-mail from 2checkout.com telling me that they won't bill me anymore for this service. I think this says it all...

If anyone can give me some info (I wounder how...) I would really appreciate.

Also, if someone could suggest me a new host, here's what I need:

- 5 to 10 GO bandwith (month)
- About 20 to 25 megs of disk space
- 1 mySQL database

My budget is very small, as many one here... Thanks for helping me! :(

Was that http://brightlightwebsites.com/ or.....

Anyhow, spend some time on this board and you will find a great host.

www.brightlightwebsites.com was a host located in Florida. I had been with them for 3 months now. The service was ok, but I got no notice telling me they would shut down...

http://webhostingtalk.com/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=17819

The owner (I think he is the owner) is Aussie and recently turned 16. Perhaps a PM to him will help resolve your problems.

Thanks. I just hope it is not him. Man, how can a 16 years old boy can have his own hosting company?

Well, there are a number of under-18s that do own hosting companies here.

I had the same experience as Dark Angel -- no notice from Brightlightwebsites.com, just an e-mail from 2checkout.com.

Brightlightwebsites.com has not answered my three email requests with the first one sent a week ago.

Appears to be a disappearing act :(

Well, I can only cry with you Rolando :(

I only think I just lost 70 bucks! Damn! I hate these f***ing stupid... I just can't say that here.

Can anyone refer me to a trustable company? Haaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!! I think I'm gonna hit my computer screen (just lost another 200 buck!).

We regret to inform that BrightLightWebsites servers were suspended today after we received our first ever charge-back(s) on the merchant account which were made under the clients invoices.

Not 1 or 2, but to my surprise there were 3 charge-backs and upon checking the details of the transaction it was evident that he had used the same billing address but different credit cards and names - talk about credit-card checks from Australian banks.

Thought we do our best to validate first-time orders, it becomes a lot more difficult when the clients then pay-online monthly themselves and when dealing with hundreds of transactions.

After seeing this post it is most evident that this is fraud and we will prosecute this to the fullest extent.
Apologies to those clients on these servers affected, but it seems some-one has tried to wipe their hands clean.

If a client of BLW can email us at billing@dv2-eservers.net with the MERCHAT ID for the 2Checkout account of BLW, It would be most appreciated.

Have a great evening.

Hey Shazad,

It's only a small minority of the Australian folks. Damm chargebacks :bawling:

Im sorry to hear that ( I never know if Im talking to shazad or imran so ill call ya shazam :) Shazam. It truely sucks to be in that possition, I know first hand. I hope all gets worked out and since im the in the great land, downunder, if there is anything I can do to help out, you know where to find me.

Beau :D

Sorry guys, the good all Australians are top folks!!!

We were on such a good role, 16 months with 0 charge-backs or disputes, Ah well it had to come to an end one-day :(

That’s a mere $4,324.00, looks like will need to use the debt collector account after all....

Alan/Beau, I also have the same problem with you guys, never know who it is ;) Thanks for the support and heads up!

-Shazad

I am going to call you shazam to... Well because it's better :D

I whois brightlightwebsites.com and it shows "Anthony Ziebell" as the domain owner..

I know an Anthony Ziebell.. in my area.. and he would hardly know to use a computer to the extent of running a webhosting biz.. **** I had to teach him to use MSN.

Shazad,

I don't have Brightlightwebsite's merchant ID with 2checkout, but I have this from their order confirmation:

Our mail address is;
102 Donohue St. Kings Park, NSW, 2148 AUSTRALIA

Contact Information?
Phone/Mobile: +61403-77-87-66
Email: webmaster@brightlightwebsites.com
Forums: http://forums.brightlightwebsites.com/

Business Information
Business Name: BRIGHT LIGHT WEB SITES
Business Registration No.: BN97740202
ABN Number: 54 024 067 499

The AJ (thats what we call him) I know doesnt own a business..

What is going on? :eek:

Rolando,

Thank you very much for the info, that matches what we have on record also...

Quite strange do credit-card fraud but use legit home address ? Jeez, kids.... (no offense)

-Shazad

cabalstudios, that is his home address..

But thing is... well I remember I had to teach him.. the Anthony Ziebell I know that lives at that address, how to use MSN... so.. I am confused as to how he would be able to comprehend running a server from the start :eek:

That mobile number is not the Anthony Ziebell number I know but.. and the number listed on the domain is not his.

Hmmm and just the other day he was going to open his own data center with ulimited Optus bandwidth..

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88524


If this is the same guy.

lol! Now I know that aint the anth I know that lives there. The anth that lives there probably wouldnt know what a datacenter is if you asked him.

very strange....i transferred an account over to them last month because the client said the bandwidth was cheaper.....

cabalstudios, did signing up with you need some sort of verification thru license, passport or anything?

I am beginning to think someone has used this poor guys name and address to buy stuff.

FL,

He originally paid via PAYPAL and then transferred over to the merchant system after the initial month. As for verification, nope we deal is quite a number of clients daily and usually vigorously test/scan all data before setting up servers; we don’t really ask for any verification/passport etc..

Since he used Paypal it has limited checks, but i would assume Paypal had there own checks for verification of credit-cards and bank account details.

FL, I will PM you off site. Thanks

-Shazad

Righto

Update : I’ve managed to get a contact number for one of the CC Holders used for a transaction and will be contacting them soon, Thanks to my good old pal Robert @ Myacen...

Not all Aussie are bad... heheh ;)


-Shazad

Yeah, ask if they know who put the transaction thru.. could lead you to the person who seems to be using this guys name.

I can see an argument arising about 16 year old web hosting company owners/runners again....

:D Always here to assist. We need to fight chargebacks :cartman:

Whoever it is that has managed to use all Anthony's details sure as hell has a good way of finding out things..

Must be someone generally close to anth and someone who dont use the computer much.. someone who managed to get to be his friend basically :stickout:

Ok. I must say English is not my first language, so please tell me what a charge-back is. Thanks.

Second, I want to be sure I understand the story:

A person (which I'll surely hit if I ever meet someday), has stolen the identity of a 16 yo boy in Australia to start a hosting company (Bright Light Websites). Now he closed everyting, and we all lost our money forever.

Also, FL Admins seems to know that 16yo boy, and it can't be him.

I'd like to know who you are cabalstudios, because you seem to be in the process of tracking the guy or I don't know.

By the way, I'd suggest all people who were at Bright Light Websites to do like me and cancel their credit card. That's what I did two hours ago. It's free and and trouble-free. Anyway, at least call your credit card company.

A charge-back is where someone gets their money back. Ring your bank :)

Yes, I know him and I can assure you, Anthony Ziebell is now scared ****less because he thinks he will be in trouble for something he has no idea about what is going on - I have assured him he will be ok.

Cablestudios is someone from e servers biz (the person acting as anth must have got servers from there).

BTW - Just as I have told e servers biz,

The business name "Bright Light Web Sites" was actually registered as Anthony Ziebell and his father. it was a small time venture, starting in 2000 which never actually got off the ground.

it seems the person has managed to get all the info needed about the company and anthony, to assume full (well to an extent) identity.

So who is falculty ?

Well I assume faculty (spelling fix), is the person who managed to assume the identity and his business identity.. Guessen anywho.

Ok. Thanks FL Admins. Do you think there's anyway I get my money back?

Sorry I think my spelling was wrong :D, would the mod's like to look into this. Theirs a new revelation each day on WHT. ;) :D :eek: :blush:

Wow I would have no idea - You wouldnt be able to get it back from Anthony himself - he is just a simple boy trying to live his life.. he was very scared when I explained to him that all his passwords must be changed as someone has been acting as him.

I haven't a clue whats gone on here, from the way faculty spoke about his own DC etc I thought there may be chance he was in it for the long run :eek:

Personally I find the whole identity theft thing a little far fetched but still.... onto the reason I'm posting:

BLWS used the hostname 1337HOST.COM on servers (I know because I've recently transferred some accounts from there). Has anyone checked into the whois on this domain to see if it turns anything up?

How funny faculty and fl-admin has the same birthdays.

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Well im 17 years old and I came home today to find all the sites i host under one of Brighlightwebsites reseller plans is down i thought this was normal cause he has downtime every once and awhile then i come here and see all this then i go to his site and it leads to some thing about searching the web. Anthony seemed like a pretty cool guy when i talked to him I was hosted under him for about 3 to 4 months and just cant believe all this is happening kind of odd in a way. And sure does suck a lot cause in the morning im gonna have a crap load people asking me what happened to thier sites.

Joy Joy waits for a friday afternoon full of angry people.


Lata,
Ryan

Originally posted by FL Admins
Wow I would have no idea - You wouldnt be able to get it back from Anthony himself - he is just a simple boy trying to live his life.. he was very scared when I explained to him that all his passwords must be changed as someone has been acting as him.

To me it seems you are faculty, your website is very similar to theirs :confused:

Oh god.. different address, but Anthony's BROTHERS name!

Anthony's brother (only 14), would be lucky to know what a mouse and keyboard are!

Daniel is a devision 1 footy player..


:confused: :confused:

Guess I better inform his brother that the person who has his brothers identity, is now moving into him.

What kind of sicko tries to take a whole families identity up?

I was right Cha-ching Fraud :angry:

Erm.. ok I am not faculty. Never have and never will be. I worked hard to get that design without ever seeing the blws site design. I thought my design was unique - guess I will have to pull it down before people start calling me a ripper.

Originally posted by Myacen
I was right Cha-ching Fraud :angry:


I think chicken needs to press the BAN button on 2 indentities VERY SOON.

EDIT: looks like Myacen beat me to it.

Originally posted by FL Admins
Erm.. ok I am not faculty. Never have and never will be. I worked hard to get that design without ever seeing the blws site design. I thought my design was unique - guess I will have to pull it down before people start calling me a ripper.

Don't worry mate Net-trend found you out, all they need to do is check the ip's ;) then your gone

His site is almost the exact same as brightlightwebsites.com was and I dont think someone is stealing identies i just think some kid got in some trouble and now is trying to run away from it but yet he comes back to it and trys to cover up under another name but see he trys to cover up to much and looks mighty suspicious.

Lata,
Ryan

They can do all the ip checking they like - I didnt ever see the brightlightwebsites website. my site is a very simple design.

Originally posted by FL Admins
They can do all the ip checking they like - I didnt ever see the brightlightwebsites website. my site is a very simple design.

You never seen their site but your good friends with Anthony.... right :D

I replaced my site with a under construction page while I now make a new design due to similarity - Hell, we better go telling everyone with a site that is similiar to stop being someone else and they they are fraudsters.

WHY ARE KIDS SO DARN NAUGHTY THESE DAYS?!

they need to be spanked!

/me sends Johnny Howard to fladmin/faculty's house. You and TimPD are mates yes?

Yeah, im good friends with Anthony - the anthony who NEVER RAN a website.


I never bothered to look for a brightlightwebsites.com as Anthony never got his business of the ground in 2000

Originally posted by Myacen


Don't worry mate Net-trend found you out, all they need to do is check the ip's ;) then your gone

I've also got screen shots of the 2 profiles in case he decides to change anything . :)

Originally posted by FL Admins
Yeah, im good friends with Anthony - the anthony who NEVER RAN a website.


I never bothered to look for a brightlightwebsites.com as Anthony never got his business of the ground in 2000

He has a business now? I thought he didn't even know how to use msn?

net-trend - I have nothing to change - I repeat, I have nothing to do with the person who has acted as Anthony, but I have a lot to do with the Anthony who has no idea what all this is about.

I was trying not to post this as I was working on gathering more info, so we could catch the sly criminal behind this.

After contacting FLADMIN it become obvious of his passion over Anthony Ziabell and how he would take his time and efforts to go the mile to help us (very nice)

Then came these two private messages:

## Message #1
To what value were the chargebacks? I am a good friend of anthony's and would hate to see him be in trouble or have family troubles over something he has no idea about. His dad being a strict guy and all. If you tell me the value, I will do what I can to help build these funds up for you or would be more than happy to offer my sysadmin services to you, for your customers at no charge, as long as it keeps Anthony, an innocent guy, out of trouble.

## Message #2
BTW...
I asked anth if any funds had ever been dropped into his account. He said there was one or two times where money was dropped in, he didnt touch it and it was all gone by the next day or two.

He says he simply assumed they were errors from his bank (hence the reason he did not touch it) and that when the money was taken out, the bank must of fixed its errors.

__________________
FL Admins
http://www.fladmins.com/
Free-Lance Admins, Web-Design and Graphics Design Services



You what they say, “never give more info than what’s asked” – LAW

I think we can leave the rest for you to work out, We will be taking legal action against this so called smart-ass.

That’s all for tonight, I am off to get some sleep its 6am here…
Have a great evening everyone….

And a grate grate thanks to those than helped and posted on this thread……

-Shazad

Busted :D

Maycen, perhaps you should read each post instead of acting like such a fool. Anthony and his father once tried to have their own business running in 2000, but to no avail, as they didnt have the time to get it started. Anthony was simply noted as a "minor" in the business, with his father doing anything that was related to the business.

This is what Anthony has just told me over the phone, and quite frankly, I do no appreciate you marking me out as the fraudster.

I have offered all my help possible to e servers biz, and have been answering every possible question I can.

Myacen, are you saying that FL Admins is in fact faculty, and faculty is/was the owner of BLW?

And you were talking about similarities in their websites, FL Admin shut his site down, I don't when, but it can't be reached now.

I don't know, now FL Admins says it isn't true. I'm ready to believe anything at this point...

FL Admins, we received a chargeback several times will you pay for ours? :rolleyes:

FL Admins date of birth is the same as faculty, the sites where virtually the same, he knows alot about this anthony fella.

My conclusion FL Admins is Faculty.

Looks might suspicious how Fl-admin had like the exactlly same layout then just took it down looks like he is really anthony just trying to cover it all up and somehow try to get out of trouble. Well I hope anthony does get legal action against him for ruining so many websites...


Lata,
Ryan

Sorry for providing the extra info, next time I will hold back from trying to lend a helping hand.

I must admit that the chances of having someone here knowning this 16yo boy, who seems to have nothing to do with this story, are very low. Strange no?

But come on FL Admins, if you're really not this guy, we're all happy you help us in this fraud story.

I will re-enable the server on the switch and get the screenshot of the BLW too, almost identical just a different colour scheme

I have nothing to do with the frauding person - that is all I have to say about the issue.

Do all the IP checks you like - I know I have nothing to do with the person imatating Anthony Ziebell


I took the site down as it appears people will make someone out to be someone they are not due to a similarity - are you saying that all those who have ever copied any aspect of a website are the person who made the original?

And no, I did not copy the brightlightwebsites website, it just so happened to be similiar.

Originally posted by Myacen
Hey Shazad,

It's only a small minority of the Australian folks. Damm chargebacks :bawling:

He was from Sydney..probably of convict stock! :eek: ;) :rolleyes:

Indeed it's strange, what's even more unbelievable is that their birthdates are the same :rolleyes:

Originally posted by FL Admins


And no, I did not copy the brightlightwebsites website, it just so happened to be similiar.

But you stated before you haven't seen it before. Running in circles I believe :D

Wow! Never seen someone with the same birthdate!

You havnt been around then, have you :rolleyes:

Exactly - never did see the brightlightwebsites website - hence the fact I was unable to copy it. TO copy something, you would first have to been able to see it.

I was able to see what the old website looked thru with google's caching system. This is how I was able to now know what the site looked like.

The website similarities is really not enough. Many sites look like this one. It's a bit like comparing those pre-made PHP sites...

Originally posted by Myacen


But you stated before you haven't seen it before. Running in circles I believe: D

Well i was a little suspicious with the website design and then "net-trend" pointed out the DOB, I just played the mind game and you spilled out all the information I needed...

Thanks you..

What info?


I simply provided the information you wanted via my phone call to him. If this is out of your comprehension then I suggest visiting pre-school once again.

WHT should be made accessible by over 21s only. :D

Ok cases to believe that you are faculty

1 - Your site is practically exactly the same
2 - You have the same birthdate
3 - You seem to know a hell of alot about this Anthony person.
4 - You are offering to pay off Anthony's bills
5 - You seem **** scared

Originally posted by net-trend
WHT should be made accessible by over 21s only. :D

then i wouldn't be able to post here :(

you guys would miss me....wouldn't you?? :D

anywho, i think i might actually beleive FL Admins....
.......when he says the IPs of himself and faculty would not be the same....

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89021

Hmmm this is getting good :D


Damnit my sites... thaz the bad part..

1 - Not practically exactly and if you are going to call similarities being exact, then you have problems and are over-exagerating.

2 - Yes, we have attended school together all the way and just so happen to have the same birth date. I can assure you there are many, many people with the same birth date as you.

3 - Yes, being friends since kindy (below grade 1) up until this very day does get you to know a person.

4 - I was not offering to pay the bills of for the person who imatated anthony. I had offered my assistance and support in the matter, as well as helping e servers biz with my services if possible to help as I can imagine he would be pre-occupied at this point of time.

5 - Who's scared? There is nothing to be scared off.

Sorry, but I don't understand what cabalstudios means here.

And I got another question: do you think I can ask 2checkout.com to pay me what I lost? They did the transaction with him after all, and they are an intermediary.

I havn't actually used 2checkout before, but it is worth a try.

You could always ring your bank and ask for them to issue a chargeback but.

I dont regret sticking up for my innocent life long friend - instead I regret helping e servers biz

Jeez, blame us for your acts and then digging a big hole....

G'Night everyone, I will hit-up on the suspence of this tomorrow..
-Shazad

cabalstudios - looks like the only one around here looking for someone to blame is yourself. You have seen someone who knows SOMETHING about the real Anthony Ziebell, and decided to blame me. Just sad.

For a business man, you do not have much to show :)

The WHT jury finds you...... GUILTY AS CHARGED!! (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=692545#post692545)

Yeah, its called a spam box.

:D Great find.

Welp, I have said all there is to say really.

I have contacted Anthony's father and told him off the situation and that I have now also copped the blame - he said if anyone should ring them, he can testify.

So all I have to say, is contact me about this if you will, other than that, I am not going to bother keeping track of this thread as it is a good waste of time. I have graphics to develop.

ok so....

FL Admin's name is Anthony and he lives next to an Anthony, who happens to be the owner of BLW? I'm confused now :confused:

I guess your name is Anthony Ziebell too?

Let me add to that list.

6 - Look at his email account
7 - He is looking for a proxy server to hide his IP :)

Damn fine popcorn session - what a great place to be. :)

Laurence you missed the action :D

Hey Anthony, just wait until those debt collectors come knocking on your door. ;)

Yeah, contact Anthony's dad - I cant be bothered explaining anything here..

Oh? Dont have the number? Well hell if I am gonna tell you - since that fiasco with telling cabalstudios

Im out - Cant be bothered with this.

In America they have TimPD, here in Australia we have faculty/fladmins...

Originally posted by net-trend
In America they have TimPD, here in Australia we have faculty/fladmins...

:D

Debt collectors? hah! What are they going to collect?

Take me to court - I can prove with birth cert's who I am..

Originally posted by net-trend
In America they have TimPD, here in Australia we have faculty/fladmins...


Actually, we've also got Shang, the guy from CW, ShagHost(I *think* they've disappeared), EARhost (Timmy's partner and other side...can't remember his name)

Originally posted by Jim_UK
The WHT jury finds you...... GUILTY AS CHARGED!! (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=692545#post692545)

Nice, How much do I owe you now? ;) You better stop before i go bankrupt....

-Shazad

Originally posted by FL Admins
Debt collectors? hah! What are they going to collect?


They will find something, maybe some toy's?

Originally posted by FL Admins

Take me to court - I can prove with birth cert's who I am..

If you don't attend court eservers.biz wins by default.

Originally posted by akash

Actually, we've also got Shang, the guy from CW, ShagHost(I *think* they've disappeared), EARhost (Timmy's partner and other side...can't remember his name)

Ahhh.... America 6 .... Australia 1....:D

This is for BLW customers that have sites on the server(s) he once had.

We will be turning the servers back online so that you guys can get your sites off them.

email blw@eservers.biz with your account id, and server ip, you were on.

BLW/Anthony dont try to access the server(s), as we have taken actions to prevent anyone from accessing them.


If you require good hosting company try http://www.myacen.com (Quote eServers.Biz in the comunication and who knows they may give a discount)

Imran

fladmin: If you got nothing to hide, why are you acting so defensive? There are a lot of similarities, common knowledge says who you are. By the way, how is that datacenter coming along?

So this 16yr old kid who was going to get 20 racks (http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88524) or something, has gone bust?? CRIKEY!!! Never a dull day at WHT. :D

Kudos to eservers for turning the servers back on so brightlightwebsites.com clients can make other arrangements. :agree:

fladmin; its obvious you are this anthony character trying to pretend you don't know **** about comps, so when the cops come around you will be like Uh? UgH? ha ! think ppl on here are stupid or something?

You are apparently only 16, if you have done credit card fraud and this is your first ever criminal offence all you are going to get is a juvenile justice meeting(In Western Australia we have this, Don't know about other parts of AU, The offender sits down with cops/juvenile justice officer and if applicable the victim(they might get you e-servers to be on a phone link!) And then they work out a suitable punishment which is usally a community based service order or if you have a income you may have to re-imberse e-servers.)

But if you start bull****n the cops if/when they come around to your address you could be up for alot more! And CC fraud being a serious offence could see you ass locked up in a juvenile jail with some unnas and big bubba buffalo billy, If e-servers have enough proof to show the cops.

Cop it sweet! Learn from your mistakes.

:o

Don't make it so obvious your trying to cover your own back. Amusing for ppl reading but eh two snaggers short of a BBQ?

Originally posted by akash


then i wouldn't be able to post here :(

you guys would miss me....wouldn't you?? :D

anywho, i think i might actually beleive FL Admins....
.......when he says the IPs of himself and faculty would not be the same....

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89021

I am not through to the end of this thread yet so this might not be relevant, but that IP that Fladmins details in that thread is a Bigpond mailserver IP. The same IP that Faculty sent me the co-lo pricing from Optus a few days ago.

Received: from cpe-203-45-83-16.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([203.45.83.16] helo=blws)
by server1.1337host.com with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1)

Gary

Originally posted by Editor


I am not through to the end of this thread yet so this might not be relevant, but that IP that Fladmins details in that thread is a Bigpond mailserver IP. The same IP that Faculty sent me the co-lo pricing from Optus a few days ago.

Received: from cpe-203-45-83-16.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([203.45.83.16] helo=blws)
by server1.1337host.com with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1)

Gary
Oops....:blush:

Wonder if the kid understands that he has commited an International fraud and that the Australian Federal Police E-Crimes divison will be the ones handling this case not just the local police?

He has left enough trails he can be traced as the real user also like an email address that is attached to his real home address and the feds can and will get those records.

Faculty or whomever you are it is time to come clean.

Originally posted by FL Admins
Take me to court - I can prove with birth cert's who I am..
Got a screenshot? :stickout:

Looking at a whois FL admins is rather new and trying to hide.

Registrant:
BRIGHT LIGHT WEB SITES
102 Donohue St. Kings Park
Sydney, 2148
AU

Domain Name: BRIGHTLIGHTWEBSITES.COM

Administrative Contact:
Ziebell, Anthony webmaster@brightlightwebsites.com
102 Donohue St. Kings Park
Sydney, 2148
AU
98376170

Technical Contact:
Ziebell, Anthony webmaster@brightlightwebsites.com
102 Donohue St. Kings Park
Sydney, 2148
AU
98376170



Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 13-Nov-2002.
Record expires on 19-Jul-2003.
Record Created on 19-Jul-2000.

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.DNS4LESS.COM 207.183.41.156
NS2.DNS4LESS.COM 207.183.41.157


Registrant:
Anthony Ziebell
BRIGHT LIGHT WEB SITES
102 Donohue St. Kings Park
Sydney, 2148
Australia

Registered through: Go Daddy Software (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: DEVPIXEL.COM
Created on: 12-Oct-02
Expires on: 12-Oct-12
Last Updated on: 13-Nov-02

Administrative Contact:
Ziebell, Anthony blws@bigpond.net.au
BRIGHT LIGHT WEB SITES
102 Donohue St. Kings Park
Sydney, 2148
Australia
98376170 Fax --
Technical Contact:
Ziebell, Anthony blws@bigpond.net.au
BRIGHT LIGHT WEB SITES
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I had an account with them, and this is what I recieved last week.
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Hello,

If you are one of our Shared Hosting customers, feel free to ignore this email.



Bright Light Web Sites is sorry to inform all of it's Resellers, that we will no longer be providing Reseller services as of the 1st of December. We have chosen to cut service to resellers, as we are going to be primarily target the Shared Hosting market. As much of a pleasure as it was to service and talk with all our clients, we did not find the Reseller market profitable enough. All recurring billing for reseller accounts has been stopped. All resellers have until the 1st of December. We will be as helpful as possible in providing backups of your, and your clients accounts to help you in your move to another Reseller Host.

Now before we all run into a big panic, I wish to inform you on a "deal" if you will, I have made with another Reseller Host. This has been made in attempts to better help our Reseller clients. The message this Reseller host has sent to us to be viewed by all our Resellers is below;


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If you have any questions at all, please feel free to ask. Please note however, that all reseller files will be lost on the 1st of December, unless you specifically ask us to keep them for you for a short period of time.


Regards,
Anthony Ziebell
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Bright Light Web Sites - Shared Hosting Solutions.
http://www.brightlightwebsites.com/

weird thing is, i recieved this from his bigpond address...NOT support@brightlightwebsites.com

blws@bigpond.net.au

maybe you can contact bigpond and get his details, i believe he uses telstra for his internet connections.


Thank god I made a move to Clook just a few hours before their sites went dead!.

Their old contact phone number is (+61) 0403 77 07 66, if this helps anyone.

This thing i dont understand is if you cant afford the first server why go get another 3? They had 4 servers in total, when i first signed up I was put onto server4 which was crap slow, they moved me to server 1, which was better but then they dumped me. I can't see why hosting companies that are going down the ****ter dont look for a host who will help them out with moving there client base. I am an ex-Deahost, BLWS, customer of which both companies have gone bust in the last few weeks.

I also agree that Clook is a great host. Max time I have ever had to wait for support is about 1hr.

When you commit fraud you can get unlimited servers... until the law catches up with you that is.

lol

Originally posted by SpiritAu
This thing i dont understand is if you cant afford the first server why go get another 3? They had 4 servers in total, when i first signed up I was put onto server4 which was crap slow, they moved me to server 1, which was better but then they dumped me.

From what I understand, their plans were a bit out of this world, so it wouldn't surprise me if they overcrowded there servers. That does, however, seem to be common practice around these parts.

Originally posted by nuthin
fladmin; its obvious you are this anthony character trying to pretend you don't know **** about comps, so when the cops come around you will be like Uh? UgH? ha ! think ppl on here are stupid or something?


heres my theory, FL Admis IS this Anthony guy, and what he's trying to do is make people believe that someone else is pretending to be Anthony and doing fraud, so everyone should leave this anythony/him guy alone. but i don't think thats the case here. FL Admin, your busted mate!

Originally posted by Aplusmedia


heres my theory, FL Admis IS this Anthony guy, and what he's trying to do is make people believe that someone else is pretending to be Anthony and doing fraud, so everyone should leave this anythony/him guy alone. but i don't think thats the case here. FL Admin, your busted mate!

That is exactly right, has been very obvious since the first page. :)

Wonder if he'll appear on Today Tonight in the near future.

Wow...That was an excellent read!!
Some nice detective work too!! :D

Originally posted by net-trend
How funny faculty and fl-admin has the same birthdays.

Profile For faculty Search for all posts by this user.
Date Registered: 08-03-2002 Status: Web Hosting Master Total Posts: 1120 (10.71 posts per day) Last Post: 11-13-2002 09:49 PM
Optus - Australian BW - Read! Contact faculty: Click here to email faculty
Send faculty a Private Message! Homepage: http://www.brightlightwebsites.com/ ICQ Number: AOL Instant Messenger Handle: Yahoo Instant Messenger Handle: Birthday July 9th, 1986 Biography Location Australia

Profile For FL Admins Search for all posts by this user.
Date Registered: 11-14-2002 Status: Junior Guru Wannabe Total Posts: 43 (40.86 posts per day) Last Post: 11-15-2002 03:29 PM
Brightlightwebsites? Contact FL Admins: Click here to email FL Admins
Send FL Admins a Private Message! Homepage: http://www.fladmins.com/ ICQ Number: AOL Instant Messenger Handle: Yahoo Instant Messenger Handle: Birthday July 9th, 1986 Biography Location Australia

It's interesting that faculty posted his last post just before fladmin joined. Maybe another nail in the coffin?

I agree

Anthony!? jesus. When I last talked to him he sold all his resellers and he was going to sell shared hosting only. Weird :eek:

yea he always implied that his biz was going good...

I have known him since he was a reseller, I think it's him but what confuses me is he couldn't design for his life...

wow what a lucky escape I had, was going to sign up a few times after seeing his ads on here but everytime just as I was about to, the site prices went up which meant I delayed ordering and then a week or so ago the announcement went up about stopping reselling, always was a bit weary especially with prices going up and down constantly.

Think i chatted on AIM to this person... bit sad to come back on under a different name - especially when its all too easy these days to dig and find out who is who :)

thinking about it all now I remember him saying him and his staff were above school age yet one of his mods was always going on about school and helping out at weekends.

His staff don't go to school? now thats bs. There all kids.

Trust no one!

staffs?? haha..now thats a good one.:rolleyes:

I am 100% sure their was only Anthony that ever did something

staffs? :confused:

Originally posted by SpiritAu
I am 100% sure their was only Anthony that ever did something

Yea, the rest did nothing. No offence, but one of them didn't even know how to chmod.

What's chmod? ;)

Originally posted by NexDog
What's chmod? ;)
That's a new soft drink. :D

Heh, oh well. Lets wait and see what happens...

I live near this anthony bloke if you want me to do anything (serve papers, suss out if its a real addy etc)

hosticle: can you drop us an email please, fraud@eservers.biz

Anthony if you are reading this, then we at eServers dot Biz have decided, that we will give you 1 more chance to pay for the fraud that you have commited with us from the start of your contract.
We do not intend to prosecute you if you supply us with the money that is owed to us.
If you fail to contact us with 48 hours, we will take this much further and contact the relevant authorities, to make sure that you do NOT do this to anyone else again.

If there are any other issues you would like to discuss with us then contact us, billing@eservers.biz


We appreciate the help for the public to solve this matter also.
Anyone with any evidence or relevant information, please drop us an email fraud@eservers.biz

Imran

We designed a flash intro for Brightlightwebsites and payment was made over 2 installments, the email addresses were:

paypal@wolfz.com under the name of ANN MAHONY

and

payment@critticage.com under the name of NENAD NIKOCIC


I don't know if this will be of any help...

Thanks and take care

Hey Zuby!

What a small world...

Originally posted by zuby84
We designed a flash intro for Brightlightwebsites and payment was made over 2 installments, the email addresses were:

paypal@wolfz.com under the name of ANN MAHONY

and

payment@critticage.com under the name of NENAD NIKOCIC


I don't know if this will be of any help...

Thanks and take care

Well I do know who owns wolfz and critticage but I don't know why they would be paying for it? anth also has another paypal address (suspended) paypal@server something...

Man.. I love these threads. I think this is a pretty good warning to anyone who is planning on screwing someone over - DON'T DO IT ON WHT, THEY WILL HUNT YOU DOWN !

SNIPim sure it will be fun for all of us :)

Originally posted by zuby84
We designed a flash intro for Brightlightwebsites and payment was made over 2 installments, the email addresses were:

paypal@wolfz.com under the name of ANN MAHONY

and

payment@critticage.com under the name of NENAD NIKOCIC


I don't know if this will be of any help...

Thanks and take care

Zuby,

Thanks we have had paypal payments from them and you would not have guessed there were four credit-card payments from ‘ANN MAHONY’ and one from ‘NENAD NIKOCIC’.

I am surprised on how he managed to authorize these paypal accounts...

NOTE : Servers are back-online and will remain in tact until all clients have had the chance to make appropriate moves.



-Shazad

Really!? I find that VERY strange. He said he only had 1 paypal account and it was suspended.

You may find they were cracked accounts :)

Time to chirp in with my side of the story on this one:

I used to speak with BLWS fairly regularly on MSN. I don't remember when or why he first got in touch but it was quite a long while ago when he was just starting out.

He led me to believe that he was a lot older than he was but I always had the impression he was a kid because some of the things just didn't add up - I also got the impression he talked himself up a lot higher than he actually was. In fact, some of those chat logs may prove to be pretty funny reading after this.

90% of the time the topic of conversation was something along the lines of "how do I install xxxxx on my server", "this is happening how do I stop it", "wow, look how well I'm doing", etc, etc. Basically, he only usually used to get in touch when he needed help with something or when he wanted to express how great everything was going for BLWS.

Don't get me wrong, I didn't mind speaking with him or helping him as he seemed to be in the business as a serious venture and be doing fairly well too.

About a week ago he contacted me and told me he was getting out of the reseller business to concentrate on shared hosting. He stressed that he didn't want to just leave his resellers in the lurch so asked me if I could put something togather to help out. Although it was impossible to match his package spec I did what I can to provide his customers with an easy transfer if they wanted (Anthony gave me root access to his servers to make transfers quick).

I questioned his actions quite a bit and figured something was going on but thought he just wanted to decrease the size of his business without dropping any customers in hot water. At that point I gathered he wanted out of the business (for resellers at least) so concentrated on transferring the customers who wanted to transfer asap. For information, approx 5 customers came from BLWS and I dread to think what happened to the rest.

I don't like going into details of private chats I have with people but now this is starting to have an effect on me. Around 4 or 5 customers were transferred over before this happened and they are now contacting me thinking I'm in on all this. Completely understandable I suppose but this little scam artist is no longer someone I would like to associate myself with.

To any customers of his that got the email mentioning me I'd like to stress that I had absolutely no knowledge of this and the first I knew of it was when this thread popped up.

To Anthony who must be reading this I would like to say how utterly dissapointed I am. If just packing up leaving all his remaining customers to fend for themselves isn't bad enough, he also lied to them, me and all of us for so long, then to cap it all off he charges back all that money. In my book there's only one word for that: scumbag!

Eservers.biz: I have no idea whether I can be of any help in your investigation (or the chat logs from my convos with Anthony) but please don't hesitate to get in touch if you need anything.

Originally posted by Darth
Well I do know who owns wolfz and critticage but I don't know why they would be paying for it?

Faculty was tied up with all that Critticage/Namenerd stuff somehow. Faculty partnered up with Namenerd. Someone sold critticage to someone. The sand still trickles through the hourglass. That sort of thing. :)

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=87716&highlight=critticage.com

Gary

Hi Gary, my name is also Gary :laugh:

Anyway, thats new to me.

blws:smash:

After the whole XtremeMasta thing, I thought Faculty was a decent person. He also mentioned he was 17 during that whole escapade.

Oh yeah, wasnt he the one that was going to send that kid an xbox?

Originally posted by Fazel3
After the whole XtremeMasta thing, I thought Faculty was a decent person. He also mentioned he was 17 during that whole escapade.

I wonder if he really gave the kid his PS2...:rolleyes:

wow! what a story!

i'll bet you that the chargebacks were from customers of BLWS themselves, he collected the CC info and charged his customers for their service PLUS his.

As for critticage, that was andrew hogan's popular website. I'm pretty sure it still is...

Anthony probably asked him if he could use his PayPal account to pay for the servers....

Could he be an Aussie version of Timmy? or some kind of relation? :rolleyes: :stickout: :D

I can't believe I read it all. Wow! This is disturbing! Good luck to all of you who were formerly hosted by this business and to those of you who were scammed.

Originally posted by rochen
Could he be an Aussie version of Timmy? or some kind of relation? :rolleyes: :stickout: :D

A bad Aussie? I don't believe it. :) Actually, I'm a bit surprised. I thought faculty was OK too.

Anyone want to start a webhosting forum that requires people to be over 21 to post, and require everyone to fax a copy of their driver's license.? I agree that would cut out alot of the rift-raft. The only problem is that it might cut out a moderator too. :)

Originally posted by chrisb
Anyone want to start a webhosting forum that requires people to be over 21 to post, and require everyone to fax a copy of their driver's license.?
That would be nice. :D
I agree that would cut out alot of the rift-raft. The only problem is that it might cut out a moderator too. :)
Although I think Chicken is a tad older than 21. :D

Originally posted by Aussie Bob

Although I think Chicken is a tad older than 21. :D [/B]

Yeah, I think you're right, though I once thought he was younger from his responses. I sometimes disagree with him; but have to admit that he really does an excellent job, and I have a lot of respect for him as a moderator.

WTH are you doing up, Bob? Isn't it nightime in Aussieland? It's 2 pm in the afternoon here. Anyway, glad we still have you, Monte, Gary(Editor) and a few others from Australia that don't scam people.

I wonder if he really gave the kid his PS2...

Yeah, XtremeMasta IM'ed me and said he actually did get the PS2.

Thanks a lot cabalstudios.

I have two questions:

- How long will the server stay online?
- Do anyone knows if I can get my money back from Anthony?

Thanks.

Dark Angel,

As sad as it is to say, forget trying to get your money back from Anthony. First, contact 2Checkout. Since they are a 3rd part cc processor, technically you were their customer and not the customer of BLW. They should take care of this situation for you. If they do not, then call the bank that issued your credit card and tell them you want to dispute all the charges made against you account for failure to deliver the services that you purchased. Your cc bank should be able to refund you. Reserve that course for last and deal direct with 2Checkout.com for now.

He purchased a server off of us.. He then requested the money back quickly. Maybe this is what it has to do with ? I have no clue. I do know he ask for a refund which was over $400 which we did process though when he ask. He told me he was 17 years old and the card he was using was the main "Boss" that he worked for and he did state that he didn't own the company he was the manager and the main guy.

Thanks. I'd like to have a phone number so I can reach 2checkout.com.

I just can't find it and e-mailing is way too long.

Their phone number is listed in this thread: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79635

Good luck

Originally posted by chrisb
WTH are you doing up, Bob? Isn't it nightime in Aussieland? It's 2 pm in the afternoon here. Anyway, glad we still have you, Monte, Gary(Editor) and a few others from Australia that don't scam people.
I was up then. Had some pressing issues that needed my urgent attention. I sleep where ever and when ever these days. :D

You get your scammers everywhere.

I believe it is more likely from those under the legal age because they dont understand the consequences of their actions - or are just naive enough to believe that it may just 'go away'

I wonder if Anthony realises that eservers just got him out of a tight spot by potentially stopping legal action from his customers - perhaps he will just take it for granted.

Anthony, i would pay for your servers by the weeks end if i were you mate - get everything out of the way. Remember, in business, your reputation is all you have. If you dont fix this up as soon as you can - you will be shot down no matter what venture you do tap into.

It's sad to see this all happen, but im sure it will be resolved before too long *fingers crossed*

hosticle: Some folks just don't care about such matters these days. :(

I think hes out of hosting for good. :D

I wonder if Anthony realises that eservers just got him out of a tight spot by potentially stopping legal action from his customers - perhaps he will just take it for granted.

What do you mean by that?

Originally posted by Dark Angel
What do you mean by that?
I think what he means is that they turned on the servers and let their clients at least get data and make other arrangements for supply.

Thats exactly it. Very nice of eservers to do so - they really dont have to.

Pretty good effort as this is their only chargeback too *raises a beer* too bad it is multiple chargebacks tho :(

Well if you are still looking for a web hosting company, you should look into www.site5.com. I have been with them for over a year and had no problems, If there was a system upgrade, I was notified about it. If I have a questions, it's answered within a reasonable time period.

John

Yes, I'd also like to thank eservers publicaly. I've been able to retrieve my forum database and god knows how important it was for my members! Thanks a lot!

Thanks for the advice jtrovato. I'll take a look for sure.

------edit-----------------
After look at their host plans and site, they seem a good company but I can't afford the "vantage" plan, and with the "mercury" I only get I mySQL database... Too bad.

Hello:

I want to thank you ESERVERS.BIZ for allowing us to recover data from our reseller account from BLWS.

If we can give any information about BLWS, we'll do, but thanks god we'd already moved our clients accounts to clook, i think a company with an excellent support (specially from JIM).

I hope eservers will have their money soon, and the guilty of this situation will learn something that nobody should do lol.

Regards,
Carlos Cordero

InfoChaos Networks
http://www.infochaosnetworks.com

Thanks you for all your comments, its really not a problem, we can understand the frustration that comes with such issues...

Update on the issue, we have had excellent support form WHT members in helping getting to the bottom of this (you know who you are) and one member in particular "hosticle", he has gone all the way to help and retrieve information on the client and its amazing with the finding he has.

We have prepared a 7 page report which we will be sending down for Anthony to review before we take an action.

Have a great weekend.
Shazad

3 cheers for hosticle. Hip hip, harray!!! :karate:

Anthony: come clean dude. This issue could ruin you. There's still time to make this right. :)

Originally posted by cabalstudios
We have prepared a 7 page report

The next few days are going to see a few worrying stories incovered. My tip: buy some popcorn. :)

Gary

Originally posted by Editor
The next few days are going to see a few worrying stories incovered. My tip: buy some popcorn. :)
What's this "incovered" thing? :emlaugh:

Alright, I've got popcorn! Where's the incovering!??

Uncovered in here, dummy. ;-) (I can take it too, heh.)

Let's just say the board is in for a blast from the past that will shake the pillars.. :)

Gary

:bawling: I wanna know now! :D

Originally posted by Editor
Let's just say the board is in for a blast from the past that will shake the pillars.. :)
*gets popcorn, coke and comfortable chair* :smokin:

*sits back and watches the show*

:)

Check this out!
Xtrememasta and Anthony are the same person!
Do a whois on the domain host-xtreme.com.

Registrant:
Anthony Ziebell
BRIGHT LIGHT WEB SITES
102 Donohue St. Kings Park
Sydney, 2148
Australia

Registered through: Go Daddy Software (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: HOST-XTREME.COM
Created on: 12-Oct-02
Expires on: 12-Oct-04
Last Updated on: 13-Nov-02

*hands out free popcorn*

what a show! :D

So he gave himself a Play Station!!

How kind!! :D

Check this out!
Xtrememasta and Anthony are the same person!
Do a whois on the domain host-xtreme.com.



Wrong. Anthony registed the domain name for xtrememasta.

Conclusion : Bad actions have a bad result. Always do good, on yourself and upon others.

Originally posted by inogenius


Wrong. Anthony registed the domain name for xtrememasta.

Oops, My fault.

Thanks for the clarification,
-Dan

This is a really good thread. Some teenage kid in Australia must be pissing in his pants...:D

The WHT community at work :) . Never short on help from the wonderful people here at WHT...:D :D :D :D

Originally posted by Editor


The next few days are going to see a few worrying stories incovered. My tip: buy some popcorn. :)

Gary


What do ya mean?

Originally posted by akash
very strange....i transferred an account over to them last month because the client said the bandwidth was cheaper.....

That was mine.


I have not read through the 13 pages or so. The reason why Anthony MAY (I am not sure) be away is that it is schoolies in Australia (all the year 12's that have finished school). If that is the case, it is very unprofessional of him to not give warning to his clients.

As for the fraud, he might be able to explain why if he is away and has not 'done a runner'.

Him parking his domain name could mean that he does not want to take any orders when he is away, I really dont know.

Also, he is a good guy. A good server admin and a good business owner, his age does not really matter really.

Someone said something about him buying room in the Optus datacenter. That is true, it is the same Anthony. Last time I talked to him he said he was setting up servers all day.

I might as well go read through the 13 page :rolleyes:

You could be right about schoolies... but he still has defruded people... This is not what a good bussiness man would do....

I would not set-up any servers in the Optus DC, with him (I was seriously thinking about it) now after reading this thread. He should have made arragements if he would be away.

Originally posted by zuby84
We designed a flash intro for Brightlightwebsites and payment was made over 2 installments, the email addresses were:

paypal@wolfz.com under the name of ANN MAHONY

and

payment@critticage.com under the name of NENAD NIKOCIC


I don't know if this will be of any help...

Thanks and take care

What the hell? I am the owner of critticage.com (as you may guess) and I talk to the owner of wolfz.com - my name is not NENAD NIKOCIC and wolfz.com owners name is not ANN MAHONY.

Ok, I admit my wrong in the matter, Anthony may be in the wrong because I never added that email address to my account.
:eek:

Originally posted by CritticAge

I have not read through the 13 pages or so. The reason why Anthony MAY (I am not sure) be away is that it is schoolies in Australia (all the year 12's that have finished school). If that is the case, it is very unprofessional of him to not give warning to his clients.


He just turned 16, schoolies is not in his league. Even if it is, I doubt he's there.

Even if he's there, what a wonderful way to run a business yes?

I think he is 17 acctually....

After reading all the 14 pages, I will just say that Anthony was a good person to me. But unless he comes back (thats if he is away) and says something on the matter, it must all of been a 'show'.

EServers - I guess I better start backing up my stuff then :rolleyes:

Well its time to give my take on the subject.

My name is Michael DePetrillo, I currently own Kfoolio.com which was hosted by Anthony at BLWS.

Roughly 6 months ago I had funding problems for my site and Anthony came to me and said he could provide me free hosting as long as I linked to his hosting company. I thought it was really cool of him and for the past 6 months we have had that agreement. I realized over time he had been doing this with a lot of people. Giving them free accounts of letting them having extra space or bandwidth. He seemed just like an overall nice guy wanting to help people. I dont feel he ever wanted to scam anyone. It seems though when things got rough he got scared and droped out.

I want to thank ez for turning the servers back on. I hadnt grabed a mysql backup for nearly 2 months. Thank you so much. Is there any idea how much time i have before the servers go down again? Anyways good luck to everyone i dont want to see anthony fry but it sucks for ez, if he did everything they say, and to be honest i believe them.

Wow. I really don't know what to say. I've been having my site hosted by Anthony for the last few months or so, and he's always seemed like a good guy. I was recommended to him by Mike (klassicd) because he was a great, inexpensive host. He really helped me out as being a new web designer. He gave me advice, and did a lot of things a normal host wouldnt do. He also just seemed like an average 17 year old having fun in what he was doing. It's really hard to believe, even after reading these 14 pages of posts. I really don't know what's going on, and how long it will go on. But I am anxious to find out the outcome of everything that happens.

- Cleotis Kelly
http://www.freestylez.com

Yes he had the potential to become a great hosting provider.

Originally posted by CritticAge
Also, he is a good guy. A good server admin and a good business owner, his age does not really matter really.
Ahhhhhhh, :eek: :eek2: :eek3:
Someone said something about him buying room in the Optus datacenter. That is true, it is the same Anthony. Last time I talked to him he said he was setting up servers all day.
Of course he's "setting up servers all day". :emlaugh: :eek: :eek3:

Oh Plllllleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaassssssseeeeeee.....:blush:
I might as well go read through the 13 page
That might be a good idea. :D

And I believe most of this is utter bullsh!7.

I was informed that someone spammed from one of the servers on Anthony's site, and you guys shut him off because of something he wasn't in control of in the first place. Yes, it is under 18, but that doesn't mean that is is fraudulent in the least. All his accounts were legitiment, and if you would have simply left him alone, all would have been well.

Also, if anyone should be pissed off, it's me, simply because I lost all of my data considering that I too was hosting on one of Anth's servers. I am aware that the servers have been turned on, but some time-restrictive data has been erased, and my business is now not able to be functional. I would appriciate it if I could get a full story as to why the hell his servers were shut off in the first place, otherwise I will be more mad than I already am.

Also, the account paypal@wolfz.com is a personal account created by me, BRETT LUCKABAUGH, to deal with any paypal questions my users may have. I have currently never used that account.

Originally posted by ArchDemon

Also, if anyone should be pissed off, it's me, simply because I lost all of my data considering that I too was hosting on one of Anth's servers. I am aware that the servers have been turned on, but some time-restrictive data has been erased, and my business is now not able to be functional. I would appriciate it if I could get a full story as to why the hell his servers were shut off in the first place, otherwise I will be more mad than I already am.


If you would have even bothered to read the first few pages you would have known why. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by ArchDemon
And I believe most of this is utter bullsh!7.

I was informed that someone spammed from one of the servers on Anthony's site, and you guys shut him off because of something he wasn't in control of in the first place. Yes, it is under 18, but that doesn't mean that is is fraudulent in the least. All his accounts were legitiment, and if you would have simply left him alone, all would have been well.

Also, if anyone should be pissed off, it's me, simply because I lost all of my data considering that I too was hosting on one of Anth's servers. I am aware that the servers have been turned on, but some time-restrictive data has been erased, and my business is now not able to be functional. I would appriciate it if I could get a full story as to why the hell his servers were shut off in the first place, otherwise I will be more mad than I already am.

Also, the account paypal@wolfz.com is a personal account created by me, BRETT LUCKABAUGH, to deal with any paypal questions my users may have. I have currently never used that account.

Settle down mate.. you obviously haven't read through this thread, otherwise you would have the story. Perhaps you should go read up before you go any further.

To at least understand what's going on. And unfortunately, I don't have over four hours to read all the posts O_o

Anyway, I am quite mad over the entire situation, and I don't believe that Anth could do something so sinister. He's been very open with me and my situations, and it doesn't seem like either side (him and eservers) has been giving the curtosy nessesary to resolve these differences. He basically told me that both sides said '**** off' and then he desided to chargeback then. I will go catch up on my history before I post again.

You're saying that the hosting was suspended AFTER the chargebacks were made?

Uhhh. I don't believe that's correct, unless all my sources are wrong. From my understanding, someone spammed, and THEN they shut him down, and then that's when he got mad and chargebacked...

In which case why couldn't the problem be resolved WITHOUT suspension?

Originally posted by ArchDemon
Anyway, I am quite mad over the entire situation, and I don't believe that Anth could do something so sinister. He's been very open with me and my situations, and it doesn't seem like either side (him and eservers) has been giving the curtosy nessesary to resolve these differences. He basically told me that both sides said '**** off' and then he desided to chargeback then. I will go catch up on my history before I post again. [/B]

Mate thinking about it now there were so many times when he was changing his prices every day he said that he wanted to slow things down... bull$hit he wanted more money... He collected clients cc cards even when he was using 2checkout.

Mate when your cc statement comes in make sure you check it...

I was a free user, and I made graphics for him. He paid me with server space.

Anyway, he always personally talked to me, and we even planned to go into business together. And he DID say that he just wanted to slow down signups. He was getting over 9 a day, and he made sure that his customers knew they were getting their old price, which they were.

I cant see how he could be getting 9 signups a day.... He said a few times things were slow.

I mean, for $2 a month, who could resist the service?

I'm not saying that this kind of behavior is IMPOSSIBLE, it's just that I don't think that Anth could do this.

Lets get a few thing clear, as clear as the sky on a good summer morning.

CritticAge : You will be interested to know I got a payment from Anthony from your payal account
ArchDemon : And you sir, would be very interested to know we had three credit-card payments from your credit-card on your name one of which one was charge-backed on : "2002-11-13 15:15:31.59 ".

Now Anthony can make up as much bull$hit as he likes, so he claims this was over SPAM ? Now my good friend go and check SPAMCOP and see if there was any SPAM reported from Anthony server(s) in the last 4 weeks, then come back and you will be worthy of me wasting some time with you.

I spose he also has six different identities as he has used 6 different credit-card, oh then again my merchant must be lying to me, cause good man Anthony can not do such a thing....

Anthony is always on MSN and replies to emails very quick, he asked me for servers at the Dallas, Internap facility and I informed him that I could not currently give him the same deal as before as we were now doing some new plans, he then talked about opening a local ISP-Dialup which was costing him $15K; that was the last i talked to him.

Upon receiving the first chargeback and billing informed me, I was surprised it was Anthony's account and checking it showed different credit-cards used. Two more charge-backs also showed up within 5-10 minutes of the first.

<SNIP of Chargeback email>
Purchase transaction ID: 26058444
Generated at: 13 Oct 2002 10:54:06 GMT
The following reason was given for this RFI: Fraudulent transaction processed - no cardholder authority
<SNIP of Chargeback email>

Now go ahead and check when this thread was posted this will prove that infact we did give him a prior minimum 24 hours notice (time of thread 11-15-2002 02:31 AM GMT - I work that out to be 30+ hours, Oh then again maybe I fiddled with the time on WHT?) before taking any actions, to say the least even him phone number didn't work.

Now I understand the concern of the two new posters, who are defending Anthony, ArchDemon: You were so quick to blame us, you know all about this because a) your credit card was used by Anthony b) you processed one of the charge-backs, check <SNIP of Chargeback email> above as that is the time/date it was done and within 10 minutes Anthony was made aware of this by all means of contact we had.

The details on the whois regarding address are incorrect they do not belong to a Mr Ziebell but another resident, Anthony if you are reading let me rest assure you I have been able to trace your correct details of where you live.

From the information in my possession Anthony has committed/broken 14 laws in the good Aussie land....
All in all it is very sad that this has had to go to such an extent, but if thats the way he wants it we are more than happy to do so with the AFP E-Crime department full support, I am sure they will be very intersted in this case.

Hope you all have a good weekend.
-Shazad

EDIT : The report is now 18 pages long, just had it faxed to me.

I think we have a schizophrenic on WHT....:eek:

Originally posted by net-trend
I think we have a schizophrenic on WHT....:eek:

I assume this was NOT targeted towards me, I will be getting worried if it was ;)

-Shazad

schizophrenic

adj 1: suffering from some form of schizophrenia; "schizophrenic patients" 2: of or relating to or characteristic of schizophrenia [syn: schizoid] 3: suffering from a form of schizophrenia characterized by foolish mannerisms and senseless laughter along with delusions and regressive behavior [syn: hebephrenic] n : someone who is afflicted with schizophrenia

:D

Originally posted by cabalstudios


I assume this was NOT targeted towards me, I will be getting worried if it was ;)

-Shazad



I believe he was referring to fladmin and faculty :P

I have my excues; I am tried.. ;)
I can goto sleep now, knowing I am still normal :D

G'Night...
-Shazad

Originally posted by cabalstudios


I assume this was NOT targeted towards me, I will be getting worried if it was ;)


LOL, of course not!

Haze was right, but now i'm thinking there could be more than just Fladmins and faculty......

Originally posted by cabalstudios

CritticAge : You will be interested to know I got a payment from Anthony from your payal account

No, my PayPal email is critticage@hotmail.com, not the one stated before in this post.

Originally posted by cabalstudios
From the information in my possession Anthony has committed/broken 14 laws in the good Aussie land....
All in all it is very sad that this has had to go to such an extent, but if thats the way he wants it we are more than happy to do so with the AFP E-Crime department full support, I am sure they will be very intersted in this case.
Shazad: If there's anyway I can help out here, let me know. Not sure how I can help but I feel ticked off that a fellow Aussie has bahaved in this manner. :eek3:

The report is now 18 pages long, just had it faxed to me.

Blimey :eek3:. Well I must say I never thought Anthony would be capable of this. But i'm not always correct :(

Originally posted by CritticAge

No, my PayPal email is critticage@hotmail.com, not the one stated before in this post.

So "bleh@critticage.com" is not you? Funny how Anthony used it and also has access to email.....

Originally posted by Aussie Bob

Shazad: If there's anyway I can help out here, let me know. Not sure how I can help but I feel ticked off that a fellow Aussie has bahaved in this manner. :eek3:

Aussie, Thank you very much for your support, I will be sure to let you know if I require any additional support. We have had outstanding support; the WHT community is not as bad as some make it out.

Originally posted by Darth

Blimey :eek3:. Well I must say I never thought Anthony would be capable of this. But i'm not always correct :(

I was really surprised myself, but the information/logs are now summing things up perfectly and unfortunately I cannot reveal this info.
Trust is something we take for granted; unless you know them personally I believe it is somewhat of a thin-line.


-Shazad

This still going :D :blush:

Amazing show, cabalstudios please keep us updated if possible :)

Originally posted by Darth
Amazing show, cabalstudios please keep us updated if possible :)

I hope we win an OSCAR after this hard performance... ;) :D
We will keep everyone updated on how this goes.

-Shazad

Even if someone seems to be a great person, it may always turn out to be the worst person you've ever seen. And this is even more true on the Web, as it is the BEST place to make money fraudulently.

Someone really near me (I can't give too much details as my identity is rather easy to find...) had a good friend at his job. This guy a really cool, he was sometimes buying gifts to me for no apparent reason (I was about 10 yo). But someday, things turned bad and people discovered a thief. And that person who's near to me had to go in court to prove she was not hsi accomplice.

So even if you think someone is OK, it may always turn out to the least honnest person you've seen in your life.

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