View Full Version : running a web hosting busines from a house
userkiller 08-30-2009, 02:08 AM Will that be okay low profile web hosting business.
I was thinking of buying a
dell server.
# 4 x 2.8ghz 2meg CPU's
# 4gig DDR ECC memory
# 2 x 73gb hard drives
# Perc 3DC + 128mb
# DVD-Rom drive
# 1.44 floppy drive
# dual power supplies
# Drac III controller
# faceplate
i live in a 3 flour.
i can build my own websites. 6 month linux experience and 2 month cpanel experience. i been running a desktop as a server with centos 5 for 4 month non stop.
userkiller 08-30-2009, 02:13 AM sorry i posted in the wrong section can some one move it
dbbrock1 08-30-2009, 02:25 AM Why not just invest that money and get some cheap dedicated server to start out with? This way you dont have to worry about a bad connection because you know the datacenter is loaded with bandwidth.
Not to mention it isn't free to leave a server running 24/7. Also, say the hard drive crashes. You will have to pay top dollar at a Best Buy to get an equivalent hard drive on the spot. If you went with a datacenter, they will likely be able to replace the drive and will do it for free.
Sure, you could totally do it from home assuming your connection is above standard. Is it worth it though? That is the question.
userkiller 08-30-2009, 02:31 AM With Optimum Online Ultra, you will enjoy speeds up to 101 Mbps downstream and up to 15 Mbps upstream.. any ways i was looking at this http://ideastack.com/reseller-hosting.html.. start with the lowest and move up basicaly oversale..
Or you can reconment me the best plan there is that is also cheap..
blessen 08-30-2009, 08:46 AM Will that be okay low profile web hosting business.
I was thinking of buying a
dell server.
# 4 x 2.8ghz 2meg CPU's
# 4gig DDR ECC memory
# 2 x 73gb hard drives
# Perc 3DC + 128mb
# DVD-Rom drive
# 1.44 floppy drive
# dual power supplies
# Drac III controller
# faceplate
i live in a 3 flour.
i can build my own websites. 6 month linux experience and 2 month cpanel experience. i been running a desktop as a server with centos 5 for 4 month non stop.
Yes, its an option. But hosting demands 24/7 internet and power availability with out failures. Also the best cooling solutions. I do not think, your server at home can meet all these requirements. But still its an option if you do not promise 99% uptime.
If you are so much interested in this industry and if you do not want to spend much money then why not try a reseller account or a small vps account to start with. I personally think , starting with a reseller account is the best option. Once you have grown then you can move into dedicated server or a Good VPS.
HTTP404 08-30-2009, 09:40 AM TBH its too much hassle, I would do what Blessen above has recommended, get a reseller vps or dedi.
If you want your own hardware then I would recommend getting it racked in a data center.
Also another thing to consdier is does your ISP allow you to use homeservers? Are they going to charge extra for static IP's etc?
Collabora 08-30-2009, 09:49 AM Your ISP probably won't allow it, even if you had the appropriate connection connection speed. Do yourself -- and your customers -- a favor and start it up with a hosted VDS
userkiller 08-30-2009, 01:06 PM Okay Now Am taking Recommendation.. i been checking the dedi offers and i found couple of good ones..
But which one would you recommendation for me to start with.
njoker555 08-30-2009, 01:21 PM i run a game server from home - and i have about 1mbps upload speed and it runs fine - but running a web hosting server from home isn't recommended. they tend to be a bit more active.
as for dedicated providers, there are a ton of providers, softlayer is seen to be one of the best, along with rackspace (think WHT is hosted by rackspace), hivelocity, etc.
but I don't have any personal experience with any of them, just reiterating names from reviews around the board.
good luck.
mrpepik 08-30-2009, 02:58 PM If you find any that you are interested in on the Board here, go to their web site and ask questions. See how long it takes for them to get back to you, ask for IP's to ping to see the response from your home and also search google for sites that will allow you to test pings from different places. Definitely look over their TOC's before signing.
Check their different options and costs (remote hands for instance) for either managed dedicated servers, unmanaged dedicated servers, and for racking your own server in their facility.
pointer 09-16-2009, 11:22 AM UK,
sorry for telling it but your NIC is very promised for staring Web Hosting ;-)
MKHosting 09-16-2009, 02:20 PM Your definitely better looking for a dedicated server or colocation, as well as connectivity there is redundancy to think of, look around the offers section then search for reviews.
BH-Greg 09-16-2009, 08:40 PM What you should really do is invest that money into a dedi server or buy a server and install it in a Data Center, I don't know if you could but I think you could, Try it plus you would need to contact your ISP to see if they will allow you to host a server our of you home its going to bring big problems. Trust Us.
bqinternet 09-17-2009, 01:37 AM Use your home server to learn on. Rent a dedicated server or VPS in a real datacenter to host your customers from.
If you only have 6 months of Linux experience, you're putting your customers at a big risk if you try to manage your own hosting infrastructure right from the start. You might consider starting with a reseller hosting account until you have more experience.
Z Web Design 09-17-2009, 02:25 AM That's what I like about this website compared to others.
On other forums userkiller would have been "killed" with other members calling him unprepared, amateurish etc etc.
Instead on this forum people take what is said and try to give a constructive answer. Its a credit to you all.
That's why I come back here.
:-)
And yes userkiller listen to the wise words already mentioned above.
Remember think long term, research research research and you must be passionate about it. Only you know that. Think things through and well, if you really want it to happen..it will.
Natcoweb 09-17-2009, 04:16 AM Will that be okay low profile web hosting business.
I was thinking of buying a
dell server.
# 4 x 2.8ghz 2meg CPU's
# 4gig DDR ECC memory
# 2 x 73gb hard drives
# Perc 3DC + 128mb
# DVD-Rom drive
# 1.44 floppy drive
# dual power supplies
# Drac III controller
# faceplate
i live in a 3 flour.
i can build my own websites. 6 month linux experience and 2 month cpanel experience. i been running a desktop as a server with centos 5 for 4 month non stop.
If you are planning to provide hosting services start with looking into network issue, using colocation or dedicated server from an upstream hosting provider will give you advantage of going for BGP network resulting in better uptime figures for your clients.
As for the configuration, get 3 hard drives, you will need one more for backup.
HostDiva 09-17-2009, 11:01 AM Here's another issue: Say someday you want to go away on a weekend trip and while you're gone something goes wrong with the server. All the websites you're hosting are now down. All the clients you've worked so hard to gain their trust are gone in the blink of an eye.
BTW I really like going on vacation knowing that my clients websites are on reliable hardward that I don't have to physically maintain.
speckl 09-21-2009, 12:33 AM Got thoughts Diva, but lets not forget about security. How easy it is for someone to break into your house and steal the server. Who knows what would be on the machine (credit card numbers, usernames, emails, passwords...) To a thief, a home server is GOLDEN. I don't want to say the phrase "do your clients a favor", but if you want to grow your business, you need to be professional about it. Cutting corners to save a few bucks nearly always ends in failure.
Hydro_Host 09-21-2009, 10:27 AM What if you have a power cut at home? Do you have backup generators? Will they also run your air conditioners?
quantumphysics 09-21-2009, 01:11 PM Cutting corners to save a few bucks nearly always ends in failure.
Compared to coloing that box, how would there be money saved? Even 10mbps up to the home with 3-4 static IPs would cost a hell of a lot more.
dynamicnet 09-21-2009, 02:42 PM Greetings userkiller:
The problem with running your own data center from a house environment is one of quality.
Please visit several data centers in your state / province (or a nearby state if your state / province doesn't have any).
The quality data centers will have multiple connectivity providers, at least dual electric feeds (separate electric providers), high quality coolant and air flow controls, battery backup, another form of backup, 24x7x365 staff, etc.
While you would be truthful in stating you have your own data center when run from home (vs. the outright lying that occurs when people rent servers, then state, "our data center"), the quality of your environment might be on the extreme low end compared to professionally run data centers.
If you are ok with that, AND your customers are aware of the environment that's fine.
Now, if you do plan on running your own data center at home until you have enough servers where you might move to co-location, your pricing strategy should take that into account along with any other plans for growth.
Thank you.
speckl 09-21-2009, 02:52 PM Compared to coloing that box, how would there be money saved? Even 10mbps up to the home with 3-4 static IPs would cost a hell of a lot more.
He's wanting to use his current connection to run a server on. He doesn't want to spend money on a 10mbps uplink. He would save money by utilizing a dns service to direct all traffic to his home IP. He would only need one IP. I don't know how much an additional IP would be from a cable company, however, he could setup an IP forward from somewhere for an additional IP if needed.
quantumphysics 09-21-2009, 02:53 PM He's wanting to use his current connection to run a server on. He doesn't want to spend money on a 10mbps uplink. He would save money by utilizing a dns service to direct all traffic to his home IP. He would only need one IP. I don't know how much an additional IP would be from a cable company, however, he could setup an IP forward from somewhere for an additional IP if needed.
Most home broadband companies don't hand out static IPs or reverse dns unless you upgrade to business or something - essentially giving him 0% successful mail delivery.
speckl 09-21-2009, 02:56 PM Why would he need to request more Static IP's or reverse dns? And why not use Google Apps?
QuickWeb-Roel 09-21-2009, 11:07 PM ummm you can use your home server as off-site backup to backup your datacenter based server though and you can offer your service to other web host. :-)
larwilliams 09-22-2009, 08:55 PM What everybody is forgetting is that no ISP allows running of your own web or e-mail servers on a residential connection. No matter how much up/down bandwidth they promise, you will get kicked off eventually.
I know someone who tried it locally, and after being online for about 2 hours, their ISP began knocking them offline with IP changes every 15 minutes.
vivianrollins 09-23-2009, 04:11 PM why would you invest so much initially when you can resell?
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