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View Full Version : Tim from Paradise-design(s).net RIPPS OFF MORE PEOPLE! This is a warning
RCIndustries 11-12-2002, 03:47 AM Many of you have heard of Tim from Paradise-Design(s).net and PixelGenie.com. Many of you have been ripped of by Tim who owns both of these companies. I am posting today, after 3 months of holding this back, this post is a warning to everyone and I recommend that everyone in this industry read this message and please speak out.
My name is Tom Macdonald and I’m a freelance web designer, I have recently been working out of WebDefinity.com with Chris and recently I have been getting work from Tim from Paradise Designs. Tim would pass work onto me, in which I will do and he would normally pay – which would normally take weeks.
Recently Tim will not pay for design work and will hold money from me, while each day Tim will promise to pay me, but make excuse after excuse. This has been going on for 3 months now, in which Tim will not pay. Tim now refuses to pay for the design, now saying that he doesn’t want it. He said this after saying that he would pay for it an hour earlier. This is 2 weeks after completing the site.
I have had problem after problem with Tim. I’m normally a good person to work with, and I have several people to back me up here. I know that Tim has ripped off many people in the past, and that’s why I am posting. This is no longer a warning to people to steer clear, but I think we need to stand up and take action. Someone like this shouldn’t be involved in this industry, and gives bad names to people like us.
He is now holding my design firm: enhanceyourvision.com and is threatening to sell the name.
I erdge that everyone who has been ripped off before, or ripped off by Tim to stand up and say there part. If Tim has ripped you off in the past, I also ask for you to post it to show the people out there what he does. I ask that all moderators and owners of this forum to please get behind this post as this is a very important matter, and as you can see this is not the first time – nor the second this has happened to people by Tim.
To take action we need to spread the word about this and make sure that no one does business with Tim. This is the only way to control this matter.
I also recommend that people contact Tim on e-mail: tim@paradise-design(s).net (tim@****************.net) or ICQ: 76176606 or AOL: PDSupports and express there anger.
If anyone wants to challenge this statement, I am more then willing to put up proof of ICQ conversations. I have nothing to loose here, and Tim has pushed me this far. He has threatened me against this post, saying he will post about me trying to rip him off, but this has not happened. He also wrote the following to me the last time I spoke to him (taken off ICQ):
(ME) GetEnhanced [4:53 PM] :
don't forget to check WHT.com when you get up. I have had enough of this tim.
(TIM) Paradise Designs [4:54 PM] :
the cops will be by your house tomrorow to arrest you you have threated to kill me previously and I have the convo
(TIM) Paradise Designs [4:54 PM] :
to proof it
(TIM) Paradise Designs [4:54 PM] :
prove
(TIM) Paradise Designs [4:55 PM] :
good nite
(ME) GetEnhanced [4:55 PM] :
what the hell?
This just shows you a sample of what Tim is like – He has now come back to me saying if I don’t post he will pay me tomorrow morning.. Should I believe him?
Please post your comments – it’s time Tim was brought to justice.
Thank you.
Kind Regards,
Tom Macdonald.
e-mail: design@webdefinity.com
ICQ: 54685616
AOL: AAAgainstAll
P.S - I notice that the word Paradise-Design(s).net gets blacked out - i have to add the brackets.
AussieHosts 11-12-2002, 03:53 AM Originally posted by RCIndustries
Many of you have heard of Tim from Paradise-Design(s).net and PixelGenie.com.
Who?
;)
PixelGenie 11-12-2002, 04:03 AM All Information below is true and can't be held against us :).
Tom, First of all guys and gals I want clear something up here.
1. I don't owe you any money.
2. You owe me money.
3. You made a design for a client which we was going to take and pay for as by our agreed terms I had asked you to make several changes to it previously which you never showed me I will get my ICQ history out.
I'm holding your domain as I registered it for you and you agreed to pay me for it which I'm yet to see that as well and until I do I will either hold it or I will sell it to someone else that would like the name.
I Have offered to pay Tom many times for the design which he has yet to make the changes on he totally goes out of our agreement and displays a client(s) site into his portfolio after our agreement was you're not allowed to which you have fully agreed to and was aware of. I asked you to remove it and payment would go though within a few minutes you refused to do so and finally after I went off you finally did so..
Third of all June 3, 2002 we purchased a design known as PhantasyWorks Hosting and then EARServers and soon to be Clove Networks which we paid $300 for via PayPal and I have the transaction number if I have to provide that as well. I asked you several times to provide the PSD to Clove Networks so they could move on with there business and you refused several times after us making several attempts and plus my client making several attempts after many phone calls with my client and his boss they're really pissed off at this current moment. Once or twice he did say he would send it and he never did which made myself and my client angry. I'm NOT the owner of PixelGenie I'm a staff of the company.
You have ripped me off by not paying me for the domain that I purchased for you. Until you do the changes and decide to act like a mature business man that $200 you can kiss goodbye and you can sell the design to someone else cause from us you aren't getting a damn penny until then if ever even if I decide I want the design after..
I then stated I no longer wanted the design that you didn't make the changes in a timely manner to the design that the client requested nor did you follow though with our agreement when you was employed. I told you I then found someone else to do the site that really cared enough for the money.
You have also threaten to kill me previously if I didn't pay you. ( I will locate the ICQ history to prove this)
I sure hope you don't get a job at Mcdonald's. and ruin there rep to.
Please don't spam me with messages about this thread. If you want say something then PM me cause I honestly don't want hear it. .
net-trend 11-12-2002, 04:04 AM The thing is, he's so incredibly infamous and you have had problems with him in the past, why still do the work he passes on to you?
On another note, hope you get it all solved, Tim gets spanked and the sun shines.
Darth 11-12-2002, 05:04 AM Right.. so who is PixelGenie? :confused:
AlaskanWolf 11-12-2002, 05:42 AM timmy?
PixelGenie 11-12-2002, 05:52 AM Originally posted by AlaskanWolf
timmy?
Incorrect.
AlaskanWolf 11-12-2002, 06:01 AM then why is your responses to the orginal poster in the present tense?
Tom, First of all guys and gals I want clear something up here.
1. I don't owe you any money.
2. You owe me money.
3. You made a design for a client which we was going to take and pay for as by our agreed terms I had asked you to make several changes to it previously which you never showed me I will get my ICQ history out.
Certainly looks like your acting like Timmmy to me...
PixelGenie 11-12-2002, 06:02 AM Originally posted by AlaskanWolf
then why is your responses to the orginal poster in the present tense?
Certainly looks like your acting like Timmmy to me...
Nope, It is Tim.
AlaskanWolf 11-12-2002, 06:08 AM and since your not answering my icqs, i would like you to contact me asap, as it happens I won your contest you had last month (ended what 10/14/02) which was for a dedicated server free for 12 months which included 300 gigs of bandwidth and cpanel license. Not that i would even attempt to put live customers on it, i figured it would be an aqequate machine to put personal crap on.....
Now.....I have yet to see *any* server and all you are doing is making excuses, i would like to politely ask wheres my server that i won, unless you want me to post the entire details in all the forums that i visit? This is a fair question, i expect you to email me or icq me the details of the server login info. Once i get that info, i will remove this post.
You have had a full month to provide me login details to the server so far, nothings been done! Another lie from you timmy or whatever you want to call yourself??
Aussie Bob 11-12-2002, 06:10 AM Someone sent this to me. http://209.123.207.16/timmy.mp3 :D
AlaskanWolf 11-12-2002, 06:13 AM OMG i never laughed so hard in my LIFE!!!
diederik 11-12-2002, 06:14 AM Originally posted by Aussie Bob
Someone sent this to me. http://209.123.207.16/timmy.mp3 :D
Gary, I've seen this link quite a few times.. you probably need to get a dedicated server for that file :D
AlaskanWolf 11-12-2002, 06:15 AM good idea ;-)
Techark 11-12-2002, 06:17 AM OK so little timmy of timmy's treasures then parasite designs now pixelgenie rips people off?
Tell us all something we didn't know. He was banned here but I guess being banned really means nothing around here anymore.
So for everyones amusement here is little timmy treasure...http://www.webhostingtalk.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=523244
http://timmystreasures.50megs.com/
Darth 11-12-2002, 06:18 AM Timmay!!!!!!!!!!! :D what will happen next!? find out after the break!. ;)
AlaskanWolf 11-12-2002, 06:20 AM OMG!
I cant take it anymore!!! please get me a tissue im laughing my ass off so hard!! That just melted my heart away and i started to think of the movie Beaches!!!!
Darth 11-12-2002, 06:26 AM "Oh my god, timmay killed kenny!" you [BEEP] :D
Aussie Bob 11-12-2002, 07:26 AM Originally posted by AlaskanWolf
OMG!
I cant take it anymore!!! please get me a tissue im laughing my ass off so hard!! That just melted my heart away and i started to think of the movie Beaches!!!!
hehe. Get a grip man before you hurt yourself. :D
faculty 11-12-2002, 07:42 AM Tim, think it's time to pull that lil' site down?
RCIndustries 11-12-2002, 08:00 AM The reason I posted this is because it is a serious matter. please take it seriously..
I understand many people may not no tim, and many will.. I wont people to post here to warn about there exsperiences with Tim.
And in regards to what Tim has sead, I don't have to tell you he is lieing like he does, as everyone knows. That is why he is joked about here now. Because he is a fool. He can't even handle to be called Timmy - or he starts to cry. Then try call him a kid. He will start kicking then.
Please, I ask everyone to support me here who understand what has happened.
I have contacted mod's to ban Tim again.
SoftWareRevue 11-12-2002, 08:44 AM Originally posted by RCIndustries
The reason I posted this is . . . . . .Seems like you posted this because it finally happened to you. :rolleyes:
You knew the reputation. You knew the stories. You knew what he was like. But, as long as he was paying you, that was fine.
Now that you are one of the vicitms, it's not so nice. -=\
Here's a tissue.
Have a good :bawling:
Stop yur whinin'
Derek 11-12-2002, 09:06 AM Of course everyone's heard of Tim's reputation, but why hate him cause everyone does? I don't like him because of his rep, but in other cases similar, you could be considered jumping on the bandwagon.
I know many who have done business with Tim just because nothing has happened to them. Apparently Tom waited until Tim started messing with his business before posting this. Remember, it happened 3 months ago. How long has Tim been screwing people over?
RCIndustries 11-12-2002, 09:09 AM i don't think it's whining. I think it is seriuos. And he does it to many people. And yet people think it's fine.
Well I don't get pushed over like that. Tim should be taught a lesson, and I will do that via court if he wants to push it that far.
I mean I understand if SoftWareRevue is to scared to stand up to Tim. You can sit there and think your tough behind your computer screen. But I guess little Timmy is just to big and scary for you.,
I'm here to take action.
Derek 11-12-2002, 09:13 AM Well, there is not much you can do at court. After all, Tim hasn't yet reached puberty.
Aussie Bob 11-12-2002, 09:17 AM Originally posted by RCIndustries
I'm here to take action.
We're all "timmed_out". It's just too much....:bawling:
The only action you can take here is post your thread. You can consult a lawyer and take the matter further, but I doubt that would get you anywhere.
Derek 11-12-2002, 09:19 AM He would have to try to go after the legal guardians of Tim. Tim is a little boy, he can't be sued.
JBIZ718 11-12-2002, 09:21 AM Isnt Tim Banned from this place.
I doubt SoftwareRevue is scared of timmy. He is (as others are) tired of people getting ripped off by this character with such an obvious reputation. Action, and actions have been discussed and disgust, and on and on, but the fact is, he is a minor, and therefore not legally reponsable under the current laws.
Likely he is trying like hell to scam as many as possible before he comes of legal age. Then he will have to start moving and or changing his name, like a few other characters we know.
Andrew 11-12-2002, 09:34 AM I'll go one farther:
I 100% guarantee that SWR is NOT afraid of timmuh! :D
Andrew 11-12-2002, 09:37 AM Originally posted by RCIndustries
The reason I posted this is because it is a serious matter. please take it seriously..
I understand many people may not no tim, and many will.. I wont people to post here to warn about there exsperiences with Tim.
And in regards to what Tim has sead, I don't have to tell you he is lieing like he does, as everyone knows. That is why he is joked about here now. Because he is a fool. He can't even handle to be called Timmy - or he starts to cry. Then try call him a kid. He will start kicking then.
Please, I ask everyone to support me here who understand what has happened.
I have contacted mod's to ban Tim again.
Dude, SWR is just being logical. If a guy has ripped off 938395485934 people and you decide to do business with him...then he does the same thing to you...does that not make it a bit more difficult to assign blame? Of course, he ripped you off. But you should have known he would rip you off.
AlaskanWolf 11-12-2002, 09:40 AM yah! lets not forget he ripped me off a server i didnt even have yet, which i won because i was the Top Poster at his ever so popular board! now thatttttssss magical :D
WHT Presents Timmmmmyyyyyyy the Magician and his dog Spot!
Andrew 11-12-2002, 09:43 AM how many posts did it take to accomplish that? Last I checked there were like 20 on the whole board.
AlaskanWolf 11-12-2002, 09:48 AM LOL Precisely :)
well 32 was the exact figure :cool: Yes..thats right, I found time to post 32 worthless posts which meant I had to find 32 attempts to amuse myself.
But i got though it. The light at the end of the tunnel became brighter and brigher every day and with every new day came at least 1 or 2 posts, and when i finally got to the end of the tunnel.....(you can finish it....nyquil is kicking in....yawn...im off to bed)
allera 11-12-2002, 09:54 AM Originally posted by RCIndustries
Well I don't get pushed over like that. Tim should be taught a lesson, and I will do that via court if he wants to push it that far.
I'll believe it when I see it. Claimed by way too many people in the past, yet nothing has been done.
Chicken 11-12-2002, 09:56 AM Originally posted by RCIndustries
Many of you have heard of Tim from Paradise-Design(s).net and PixelGenie.com. Many of you have been ripped of by Tim who owns both of these companies. I am posting today, after 3 months of holding this back, this post is a warning to everyone and I recommend that everyone in this industry read this message and please speak out.
I know that Tim has ripped off many people in the past, and that’s why I am posting. This is no longer a warning to people to steer clear, but I think we need to stand up and take action. Someone like this shouldn’t be involved in this industry, and gives bad names to people like us.
I erdge that everyone who has been ripped off before, or ripped off by Tim to stand up and say there part. If Tim has ripped you off in the past, I also ask for you to post it to show the people out there what he does. I ask that all moderators and owners of this forum to please get behind this post as this is a very important matter, and as you can see this is not the first time – nor the second this has happened to people by Tim.
To take action we need to spread the word about this and make sure that no one does business with Tim. This is the only way to control this matter.
Tom, I realize that you want others to post if they've had problems with Tim, but all one has to do is search for this information.
"Many of you have been ripped of by Tim..."
"I know that Tim has ripped off many people in the past..."
"...and as you can see this is not the first time – nor the second"
You know this, yet you still did business with this person.
"I think we need to stand up and take action."
The first action you should take is not to do business with someone known for doing this. Honestly, what I've seen on this forum is people watching others shoot themselves in the head and then deciding to try it thinking they won't be shot in the head.
"I ask that all moderators and owners of this forum to please get behind this post as this is a very important matter..."
It is no more important than any other person/company that isn't honest to deal with.
"To take action we need to spread the word about this and make sure that no one does business with Tim. This is the only way to control this matter."
Word is spread (here at least), but see, that hasn't stopped people from doing business with him. Honestly, you knew, you ignored it, now you're in the same sinking boat as the rest.
People ignore the warnings and let themselves be taken and then complain. It hasn't been the first, or second time, (as you said) and my guess is that it won't be the last time.
Tim has proven to us that his word is worthless. He's proven to many that his word is worthless. We don't believe him, and it is up to you to believe him. I won't make that judgement for you, but I also won't hand you the first-aid kit when you get burned.
JBIZ718 11-12-2002, 10:07 AM Said sir chicken of Cali
okihost 11-12-2002, 10:15 AM Sh!t out of popcorn :(
In all seriousness if you knew his past and you still did business with him it is your own fault. I could not imagine anyone even doing any type of business with him after you already know his past. Its one thing if he just screwed you out of the blue and you had no idea about his past, but its another if you did and still chose to do business with him.
Hopefully this will be more of a learning experience for the future if anything.
Darth 11-12-2002, 10:19 AM So what names have we got....
Tim
Timmay
Timmuh
Timmmmmmm
Anything else?
heh but really. Stay away!!! ;)
skelley1 11-12-2002, 10:20 AM Contrary to legend, there is no honor among thieves. Not by any means implying that you are a thief, just that you assumed that he wouldn't do this to you, even though you knew his history.
Same reason you don't marry a girl who cheats on her husband with you. No matter how much you convince yourself that she wouldn't do that to you, you'll eventually find her with someone else.
NexDog 11-12-2002, 10:38 AM Anyhow, looks like PixelGenie is banned. :)
SoftWareRevue 11-12-2002, 10:59 AM Originally posted by RCIndustries
. . . . . .I understand if SoftWareRevue is to scared to stand up to Tim. You can sit there and think your tough behind your computer screen. But I guess little Timmy is just to big and scary for you.,
I'm here to take action. L.O.L
What do I have to be scared about?
I've read enough here to know not to do business with him.
And, if I decided to do business with him after everything I've seen here, I surely wouldn't come back here whining when things went the way they did for everyone else.
We know what he's like. You know what he's like. This is nothing new.
I, Brian 11-12-2002, 11:16 AM He would have to try to go after the legal guardians of Tim. Tim is a little boy, he can't be sued.
Come on folks, grow up.
If someone fails to deliver services paid for according to some form of contract [cf, TOU, TOS, AUP, etc should suffice - though the act of acceptance of services is usually enough to be regarded as a contract -at least here in the UK] then you are entitled to legal action.
What I find most amazing about the Tim debacle is that people have a lot of complaints but appear to restrict these complaints to simply posting on messageboards.
If you feel ripped off, get legal representation. It doesn't matter what country you are in - you do it.
And the business of suing Tim - of course you don't - you sue the owner of the company, as they are the person representing the company whom you are actually the creditor to.
It's funny though - when I checked out the v3host list of companies attributed to Tim, every single one was registered to a different postal address on the WHOIS database.
Get your solicitors letters sent to the appropriate one..
allera 11-12-2002, 11:20 AM Originally posted by I, Brian
[b]And the business of suing Tim - of course you don't - you sue the owner of the company, as they are the person representing the company whom you are actually the creditor to.
Assuming, of course, you can find the legal owner of these comapnies -- something I have been unable to do. None of these companies seem to be registered anywhere.
Of course, you can claim "Leonard Petty" is the 'legal owner' of these companies, but that's all it is -- a claim. I have found no legal records to support this claim (other than signed contracts, which I haven't actually seen, just heard about).
I, Brian 11-12-2002, 11:24 AM Check the WHOIS database. The public access I use gives the billing customers postal address for each respective company. Have you tried that?
ChickenSteak 11-12-2002, 11:53 AM I will verify that what RCIndustries is saying is TRUE. If you need any help Tom just let me know, Tim has taken hostage a server of mine before and after a phone call at his house two days later it arrived at my doorstep.;)
Derek 11-12-2002, 11:57 AM Originally posted by I, Brian
He would have to try to go after the legal guardians of Tim. Tim is a little boy, he can't be sued.
Come on folks, grow up.
If someone fails to deliver services paid for according to some form of contract [cf, TOU, TOS, AUP, etc should suffice - though the act of acceptance of services is usually enough to be regarded as a contract -at least here in the UK] then you are entitled to legal action.
What I find most amazing about the Tim debacle is that people have a lot of complaints but appear to restrict these complaints to simply posting on messageboards.
If you feel ripped off, get legal representation. It doesn't matter what country you are in - you do it.
And the business of suing Tim - of course you don't - you sue the owner of the company, as they are the person representing the company whom you are actually the creditor to.
It's funny though - when I checked out the v3host list of companies attributed to Tim, every single one was registered to a different postal address on the WHOIS database.
Get your solicitors letters sent to the appropriate one..
Brian, the trouble is, noone is able to find the owner. I myself have never been scammed by Tim because I won't do business with him. I won't leave myself vulnerable to an attack.
This Timmah issue is really getting tiring. It has been played over and over again yet people still feel like doing business with him. If you do business with him and get screwed, it is your problem. You know his reputation, so it's your fault if you get burnt.
If you *really* want to take action, seek his parents. It may not do that much, but if he was my son scamming the net, I'd tan his a**.
I, Brian 11-12-2002, 12:27 PM Oh, I know little about Tim, other than he is little liked and is alleged to owe lots of people money.
ChickenSteak 11-12-2002, 12:29 PM Originally posted by I, Brian
Check the WHOIS database. The public access I use gives the billing customers postal address for each respective company. Have you tried that? This wouldn't work if you check it on all his domains no info is there he has it either blocked out or bogus stuff.
ZBoca 11-12-2002, 01:03 PM Tim is pobably 13-16 years old, so any legal action taken against him will probably give him nightmares.
The reason for filing any legal action against Tim would obviously be for money, and we already know there is none there, so atleast you'll scare him.
Thats all he needs-- a good scaring. I think he is a desperate kid, and is willing to go to any lengths to get a few bucks. If he learns that it doesn't work like that and he'll find himself in trouble, he won't do it.
If you want to do something, file a suit against him. Don't worry about winning or anything, just file a claim in small claims court.
Zak
MilkMan 11-12-2002, 01:07 PM Didn't bother to read all these pages, just have to add a reply to a Timmah thread.
*gets out the popcorn*
allera 11-12-2002, 01:15 PM Originally posted by ZBoca
The reason for filing any legal action against Tim would obviously be for money, and we already know there is none there, so atleast you'll scare him.
Tim may not, but his parents/legal guardians probably do. It'd be futile to go after Tim anyway -- go for the businesses and their owners instead. If the businesses aren't registered, go straight for the individuals signing the legal contracts enabling Tim to use servers and colo space. There's a paper trail somewhere -- someone just has to find it and act on it.
Apparently, not enough money has been lost and not enough damage has been done (no matter what any thread starter says) because nothing is being done.
richy 11-12-2002, 02:20 PM since hes a minor hes his parents responsibility and you should sue them.
anyone doing business with him these days after seeing what he does deserves a rather loud WHAT PLANET ARE YOU ON??? for the love of all that is holy, he has ripped off everybody hes ever met, what makes you so special? but live and learn, and in this case sue his ass off.
drhonk 11-12-2002, 03:52 PM bad timmmyyyyy.. baddd timmyyyyyy.. :)
TemplateGuy 11-12-2002, 04:05 PM Joins Milkman... Need any Coke with that popcorn? ANd any bets on how many pages before the thread gets locked?
MilkMan 11-12-2002, 04:13 PM Hey, anyone remember that Timmay thread with 20+ pages of replies and a billion thread views?
As I recall, someone had it as a signature for a bit
William 11-12-2002, 04:15 PM I have given Tim $2000.00 of my money to for a 1/2 design and
not to elaborate, he's putting me in a tough position.
I gave him the money "before the work was started" because he didn`t trust me :) Tsk tsk..
O well...
dynamicnet 11-12-2002, 04:35 PM Greetings:
Do a who is of
==> pixelgenie.com
Registrant Contact:
Pixel Genie Devleopment
Pixel Genie (info@PixelGenie.com)
888-665-2593
FAX: none
N/A
N/A, PA 42102
US
Very informative... No real mailing address...
Aussie Bob 11-12-2002, 04:47 PM Originally posted by William
I have given Tim $2000.00 of my money to for a 1/2 design and
not to elaborate, he's putting me in a tough position.
I gave him the money "before the work was started" because he didn`t trust me :) Tsk tsk..
O well...
That's bad. A search of WHT would have saved you some heartache before parting with your money. BTW, Tim couldn't design jack. He rips off young talented designers and then passes the work off as his own. A real piece of work is Timmy. :rolleyes:
Tim, I know you're ready this - you sow what you reap.
okihost 11-12-2002, 04:56 PM I find this funny also.. This kid owns Paradise-"Designs" but has yet to design anything.
hostpath.com 11-12-2002, 05:11 PM Originally posted by OKIHost
I find this funny also.. This kid owns Paradise-"Designs" but has yet to design anything.
Perhaps he has "designs" on your money? Just a thought.
grandad 11-12-2002, 05:15 PM What do you have to do to get banned from advertising your services on this site?
Aussie Bob 11-12-2002, 05:27 PM Originally posted by OKIHost
I find this funny also.. This kid owns Paradise-"Designs" but has yet to design anything.
Not correct. Take a look at this - http://timmystreasures.50megs.com/ :eek: :rolleyes: :D
Yep, that's Timmy - http://www.webhostingtalk.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=523244 :laugh: :blush:
Rochen 11-12-2002, 05:30 PM Will these Timmy threads ever come to an end? :D
ChickenSteak 11-12-2002, 05:32 PM Rochen :stickout: That's like asking if the cow will ever die on me myself and irene ;).
fantasmic0 11-12-2002, 05:36 PM Originally posted by rochen
Will these Timmy threads ever come to an end? :D
:D no not while there's enough gullible people out there ready to part with their money , enough little 16 yr old scammers ready to take their money ... and enough popcorn for the rest of us to munch on :cartman:
Rochen 11-12-2002, 05:37 PM Originally posted by ChickenSteak
Rochen :stickout: That's like asking if the cow will ever die on me myself and irene ;).
:laugh:
hostpath.com 11-12-2002, 05:46 PM Hmmm....
http://twd.osprey.net/
:D
Derek 11-12-2002, 06:13 PM Originally posted by OKIHost
I find this funny also.. This kid owns Paradise-"Designs" but has yet to design anything.
Not true. He designed paradise-design(s).net... can you not tell? lmao
>> EDIT: I notice he got someone to redesign it? <<
ADEhost 11-12-2002, 06:43 PM Originally posted by skelley1
Contrary to legend, there is no honor among thieves. Not by any means implying that you are a thief, just that you assumed that he wouldn't do this to you, even though you knew his history.
Same reason you don't marry a girl who cheats on her husband with you. No matter how much you convince yourself that she wouldn't do that to you, you'll eventually find her with someone else.
funny using the relationship of thieves and web designers.
but this guy timmy gets a long winded post every 45 days or so.
calculated risk he takes but it seems that he has the payoff happening in his favor.
mike
I, Brian 11-12-2002, 06:48 PM Apologies about the WHOIS comment earlier - I get no more detailed information than US ZIP codes.
But the phone numbers, the ZIPs, are traceable? Through the registrars [via lawyer]? Report to federal law enforcement [fraud]? Is there a USA equivalent to the UK "Companies House", where all such company info is logged and recorded for public scrutiny?
Rhetorical for those with an interest in tracking them down.
Everyday 11-12-2002, 07:06 PM I just got my delivery from http://popcornpopper.com and popped up some chocolate popcorn :beer:
Brian, just because someone calls themselves doing business, doesn't mean they are a legal business.
People register businesses or business names at their county court house. They are public records, and are viewable to anyone. One has to be a legal adult to do this. I doubt timmy did (or even got someone to) register because, well, two reasons:
1) They want the $15 or so up front.
2) He doesn't want to run a legally registered business.
RCIndustries 11-12-2002, 07:27 PM I didn't have a chance to read through everyones messages - this seems to be growing out of control.
First of all to everyone, yes I was warned and proceeded to do business with Tim. Yes I shouldn't have done so, Yes this is in a way my own fault.
But like I sead I don't get pushed over like many may do here. I have seen Tim do this Tim after Tim now, and I have only just recently found out the complete truth about Tim.
I'm here to challege Tim, not to sit back like most of you and cop it like you have. I believe in fair business. And I will continue operating that way.
For those of you who are interested I am taking this to the next level through paypal.com and if the matter continues I will be taking Tim to court.
It may sound harse but I am going to teach Tim a lesson. I'm legally not in the wrong here.
I will keep everyone updated on the outcome.
Derek 11-12-2002, 07:31 PM What do you not understand? You can't take Tim to court. He is not of legal age.
Vortech 11-12-2002, 07:52 PM PixelGenie,
Hey [Tim], you still even owe us money. Nice thing is I will be seeing you in court very soon as the every thing has been filed now..
Hmm, how many people do you need for a class act suite any one know?
Can't bleave your still around ripping people off. Get a life or better yet get a job so you can pay ever one back.
Everyday 11-12-2002, 07:57 PM What do you not understand? You can't take Tim to court. He is not of legal age.
Then sue his parents. If he is not of legal age then they are still liable for what he does. Trust me I know, we once had to sue a 17 year old and had to go after his parents. He abused the system and then took off, we found him and his parents, sued them and won.
Vortech 11-12-2002, 08:00 PM Yea who ever he had sign the contract with us leonard petty so thats who its going to be..
The Laughing Cow 11-12-2002, 08:02 PM I used to do some stuff for Tim. It's unfortunate that actually he is a kid that's alone. I'm not going to cause an argument and I don't agree with him but I feel sorry for him. I've spoken to him before and how he said his parents don't let him out much and he doesn't have many friends.
Now if only he would play things by the book - with all his free time he could have a very good company.
davidb 11-12-2002, 08:08 PM The Laughing Cow, no **** he has no friends, he steals and screws people over.
TemplateGuy 11-12-2002, 08:25 PM Go Vortech :D :beer:
Vortech 11-12-2002, 08:29 PM Originally posted by TemplateGuy
Go Vortech :D :beer:
:smash: :smash: :smash: Court is in session. :)
TemplateGuy 11-12-2002, 08:33 PM After the judge hears the case it will most likely be of his chair and doing this to timmy
"Timmy" :smash:
AlaskanWolf 11-12-2002, 08:37 PM This is how demented this kid is. This kid things that because he was the top poster in his own forums, he is the winner of the contest that he held which was for a server / 300 gigs bandwidth / cpanel license. HAHA OMG, that is just....sad!
Now I honestly knew from the start there was no server because I know about Timmys lies and deceits, and I am glad to say that I was correct in my assumption, there is no server, there never was a server.
Can you believe that? I think this kid was molested or something tragic has happened to him when he was growing up (up to this point in his pre-puberty life) to majorly affect his social skills, honesty and integrity.
Its really sickening to think there are kids in his position that have had such a tragic upbringing. I hope he gets help. I think we need to start the Timmmmy's Delusional Schizophrenia Fund
Rewdog 11-12-2002, 08:45 PM Anyway we could get the case on CourtTV? I'm sure at least 10,000 WHT members would watch :D
davidb 11-12-2002, 08:47 PM thats 10k people laughing at him
Chachi 11-12-2002, 08:57 PM client.pixelgenie.com
hmmm, look at all those designs. What if some evil ripper decided to make use of them?
:D
PixelAxis 11-12-2002, 09:00 PM Originally posted by Fazel3
client.pixelgenie.com
hmmm, look at all those designs. What if some evil ripper decided to make use of them?
:D
I'm sure its been done...
Tom, are you old enough to go to court?
Chachi 11-12-2002, 09:02 PM I'm sure its been done...
Not to my knowledge it hasn't.
Andrew 11-12-2002, 09:04 PM http://client.pixelgenie.com/forsale/
nice stuff in there.
Derek 11-12-2002, 09:27 PM Of course it was all contracted work. Timmah couldn't design if his life depended on it.
TemplateGuy 11-12-2002, 09:40 PM He ripped all of those?
This was a joke.. but I have high respect for those who designed MeHost and others,,, :mad:
PixelAxis 11-12-2002, 09:54 PM Originally posted by TemplateGuy
He ripped all of those?
This was a joke.. but I have high respect for those who designed MeHost and others,,, :mad:
Adam designed MeHost Dot5, etc.
I'm sure he didn't rip them ALL :stickout:
TemplateGuy 11-12-2002, 09:58 PM Originally posted by R. K. Raja
Adam designed MeHost Dot5, etc.
I'm sure he didn't rip them ALL :stickout:
I would'nt put it past him.
Is adam on WHT? I would'nt mind giving him an email...
Thanks
-Faraaz
vibehosts 11-12-2002, 09:59 PM Ill find it interesting if anyone actually does sue, I;'ve seen threats but never people doing it, if someone does let us know how far along it is
PixelAxis 11-12-2002, 09:59 PM Originally posted by TemplateGuy
I would'nt put it past him.
Is adam on WHT? I would'nt mind giving him an email...
Thanks
-Faraaz
He doesn't frequent the boards, but his username is i3optic ;)
SPR Hosting 11-12-2002, 10:00 PM WOW...nothing left to say that hasnt already been said. :rolleyes:
PixelAxis 11-12-2002, 10:01 PM Originally posted by SPR Hosting
WOW...nothing left to say that hasnt already been said. :rolleyes:
Then why post? :rolleyes: ;)
TemplateGuy 11-12-2002, 10:06 PM Hmm... i3optic find no posts on him.. and theres no member database :(
PixelAxis 11-12-2002, 10:11 PM Originally posted by TemplateGuy
Hmm... i3optic find no posts on him.. and theres no member database :(
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=694043&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending
;)
TemplateGuy 11-12-2002, 10:16 PM Don't make me look stupid :p
okihost 11-12-2002, 10:16 PM Originally posted by R. K. Raja
Then why post? :rolleyes: ;)
Helps the post count. ;)
SPR Hosting 11-12-2002, 10:19 PM I had to say summin :D
intellec 11-12-2002, 10:48 PM Maybe a new category is needed for WHT.
Call it Scammers!! Merge the threads to make one for each host which have proven scammers. When someone ask about a host, we can send them there. If they are too stupid or too cheap to not get the point, they deserve what they get.
TemplateGuy 11-12-2002, 10:52 PM Thanks R.K.... I'd love to hire him but hes involved with Tim is'nt he?
IGobyTerry 11-12-2002, 11:10 PM No I3Optic does free lance I think. I'm not sure on that.
Ya know, Tim really needs to have someone set him straight. He's a fairly knowledgable guy with server admin (not english though) so I think he could prolly do good in this business. His ethics just need a lot of work though.
ADEhost 11-12-2002, 11:35 PM well I want to thank whomever found the link to the designs , now I have a few new ideas for web sites :)
Mike
hnmedcom 11-13-2002, 12:37 AM Right on, ADEhost. Some of them are very good designs and are worthy models
Too bad this Tim character decided to act the way he did. With his skills (organizing talented web developers to work for him, server admin... like someone said), he could have created a successful business.
hn
Chicken 11-13-2002, 12:44 AM Well, once the thread starter wants to update this, he may. Otherwise, it is just a rehash of about 15 threads I've read already.
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