Any review about snchosting.com ? Anyone with them now?

Thanks alot.

We had a WHT client but he cancelled because he mis-configured his server and then blamed us..

Here's the thread;
http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83397&highlight=sharpnet

We ended up just giving him a complete refund since nothing else would make him happy, although we didn't cause the issue and we tried to partially compensate for the lost time.

He just wasn't having it.. :(

Anyone have any experience with them?

Yes, I have experience with Sharpnet.

Sharpnet is not a new company. They have been around for a few years.

Their primary focus was selling UNIX shell accounts for the purpose of running "bots" to be connected to IRC networks.

Anyone who has spent enough time on EFnet has probably heard of Devon and Sharpnet.

For the record, Devon is about 17 years old.

There have been more complaints about Sharpnet and its owner than I could possibly count.

For further information I suggest searching through the forums at www.shellreview.com

I personally haven't heard good things about sharpnet either. but that's just what ive heard ;/

Thanks for all your input.

Originally posted by Dragoon
Yes, I have experience with Sharpnet.

Sharpnet is not a new company. They have been around for a few years.

Their primary focus was selling UNIX shell accounts for the purpose of running "bots" to be connected to IRC networks.

Anyone who has spent enough time on EFnet has probably heard of Devon and Sharpnet.

For the record, Devon is about 17 years old.

There have been more complaints about Sharpnet and its owner than I could possibly count.

For further information I suggest searching through the forums at www.shellreview.com

And what experience do you have with us? A lot has changed in the many years we've been around. And there isn't anything on shell review but old, locked threads with pointless arguments in them. Not one single complaint.

I invite everyone to come in our channel, #sharpnet on EFnet. You will see nothing but stable servers and happy customers.

Originally posted by clocker1996
I personally haven't heard good things about sharpnet either. but that's just what ive heard ;/

I'm glad you explained that well.

Yes, please do come to #sharpnet. You will see nothing but happy bots, happy bnc's, happy staff members, and very few customers.

Yeah, exactly because my services are running fine. Mostly new customers come in. I'm going to do away with forms and stay with IRC through our page soon.

I invite everyone to come in our channel, #sharpnet on EFnet. You will see nothing but stable servers and happy customers.

Unless you hang around for a few weeks, then you see the pattern of angry customers :D :laugh:. Heck i still remember when sharpner registered kirenet.org to make fun of their competetors and it backfired and people registered sharpnet and sharpnetsucks domains, i still see vhosts like "everyone.hates.sharpnet.org" around EFNet :D.

JEAH did that, not me. He still has sharpnet.org, you know that porc.

who was it that registered kirenet.org?

Registrant:
JEAH Communications, LLC
10404 W. Fountain Avenue #207
Milwaukee, WI 53224
US

Domain:
kirenet.org

Administrative Contact:
JEAH Communications Hostmaster (JCH1-IYD)
hostmaster@JEAH.net
JEAH Communications LLC
10404 W. Fountain Avenue 207
Milwaukee, WI 53224 US
+1.4143545115
(FAX)

Proof that I'm not as lame as people make me and my company out to be. And I've still yet to see a complaint.

SNC has been around for almost five (yes, 5) years now and we didn't get where we are today by treating people like dirt and ripping them off.

It's true that I've made a lot of mistakes since I started my company, but many people do, and that's okay as long as you learn from them and try to improve on them. And I feel I've done this to the best of my ability.

So basically is what I'm trying to say is, if you don't have any valid complaints against my company, then please don't post irrelevant information.

We're obviously doing something right and don't plan on quitting any time soon.

Devon, the real question here is, who originally registered that domain, i remember that being bound to sharpnet servers years back, wasn't that one of the domains that jeah.net "stole" from you by tricking network solutions into handing over your domains to him and you just never got back?

And if you've yet to see a complaint, you must have selective vision, or just never read threads related to you on acky.net, etc.

Porcupine,

No. I never registered kirenet.org and the only domains that we're stolen from me were sharpnet.netand some other sn* domains that I registered as ideas. Chris took it upon himself to register sharpnet.org, kirenet.org and many others.

Furthermore, I have 20/20 vision and the threads related to me and my company on acky are all resolved, and it was all a mis-understanding, and the person with the problem is another happy Sharpnet customer now.

Maybe you should check your vision or read the threads more thorougly.

Originally posted by porcupine


Unless you hang around for a few weeks, then you see the pattern of angry customers :D :laugh:.

I think the laughs on you, because my channel is pretty quiet, day-in and day-out.

Devon, i posted in a thread a few months back where you said you had no bad reviews, and i must have posted half a dozen links to other (negative) threads about sharpnet.

Maybe you have to sit in the IRC channel for 2+ years as a few of us did to see the volume of angry customers, who knows, but "i was there".

Originally posted by DD-SNC


It's true that I've made a lot of mistakes since I started my company, but many people do, and that's okay as long as you learn from them and try to improve on them. And I feel I've done this to the best of my ability.

I love quoting myself.

Half-dozen = 6. You posted 3. All have been locked/removed because they were mis-understandings and were dealt with at the customers fault for the most part. How's that for complaints?

And I wouldn't reccommend sitting in a channel for 2 years. You might die!! :emlaugh:

And lastly, to date we have roughly 600 customers. If you had numbers any where near that you'd know you can't make everyone happy. I found this out the hard way, but you know what? I didn't quit and I'm still on my relentless mission trying to do so.

I almost did die of laughter when i was in your channel sometimes devon. You're fortunate some former customers of yours (like myself, remember i was a customer at one point) dont post reviews :eek:. "Misunderstandings" and locked threads aren't locked because the customer is wrong, they're locked because they became flame wars on some of your practises, you can have a thread about Timmah! in here, and you'll get it locked, not because you're wrong, but because Timmah!'s ripped off so many people that it gets out of hand.

"It's not me, it's you" is a pretty weak excuse when dealing with such complaints, if i had the will to bash you, i'd go look them up again, but its not worth my time, anyone whose genuinely interested in knowing will go to places like www.acky.net and any other shell review place with a comments/forum section and find for themselves.

I've never said "It's not me, It's you"

Most of the time it's a simple mis-understanding and I always do my best to resolve them, and they are always resolved. That's what I said.

Plus, if you had the time (or a real company), maybe you wouldn't bash people at all and try to run your company instead of talking about mine all the time.

I'm sorry you feel inferior to me or my company and I hope someday you'll grow up.

All have been locked/removed because they were mis-understandings and were dealt with at the customers fault for the most part. How's that for complaints?

Sure sounds like its an "its not me, its you" scenario to me.

Perhaps if i hadn't watched you scam so many people or produce so many angry customers while i was "working" for you [yes, notice the quotes], i wouldn't be posting at all, ever consider that out of the 3700 someodd posts, the only two people i really post negatively on are you and falcon-networks/staminus (and them much less often)?

Might be something to think about Devon :rolleyes:. Regardless, this is wasting my time and probably in your twisted mind promoting your services, so i'll stop posting in here and let anyone who wants to know do a search of sharpnet, heck even on the first few pages of google i get:

http://forum.shellreview.com/showthread.php?threadid=104
http://www.acky.net/forums/DCForumID14/141.html

If i had any amount of energy i'd go and actualyl dig for the dirt, but i cant be bothered, keep posting though and i'll give my personal review of your services devon :D.

i remember sharpnet back from a few years ago. I remember alot of complaints and alot of childish behavior from Devon. Could have something to do with his age though. But maybe he has grown up since then who knows, but from past experiences it wasn't good.

Porcupine,

And you say I have bad vision. Why don't you just try to read those threads and stop trying to talk down on my company. That shell review thread is so old, and stupid and by you posting that as evidence, makes you look stupid. The acky one too..

Additionally, I find it funny that SNC and Falcon-networks are the company's you talk down on. We're the two that made the [successful] transistion from shells to servers..

And lastly, once again, you have never worked for me. You were a lacky with an @ by your name in my channel and when I rm'd your accounts you got mad and started trying to steal my customers.. GROW UP PORC. Let bygones be bygones.


ameen,

Yes, a few years ago there were a couple of problems and I, as well as my company has grown up.


And I just think I'll let my customers do the talking from here since there hasn't been a single thread from someone currently using my service.

So because a thread/review is old, its not valid? All problems wipe away with a few months and you get a clean slate? Get a grip devon, you had servers that were down for WEEKS sometimes, heck, i can remember pointy being down nearly a MONTH in transit from one DC to another where you were disputing the bill with the old DC and they wouldn't ship the server until it was paid in full (back when you moved from the t3's to foonets t1's). Recently you pulled web.sharpnet.net and did God knows what with it, i dont even remember the excuse, it was just as a lost my shells with you, but that box was inoperative (at least for the /home/other users) for the good part of a month too, i cant name a single server you've got that hasn't had 1+ week of sustained downtime at one time or another.

Give me a break devon, time does not just give you an unconditional clean slate, im not talking "down on your company", im simply pointing out that you're full of :crap:. Heck we picked up one of your colo customers about 1/2 a year ago because his own colo server was randomly going down (back when you were still running the colo off your fractional t1 to your garage, or wherever in your house it was closeted), and he decided to move to us after he had a week of combined downtime over a months period. Needless to say with all the black soot in his server, i assumed garage, but knock yourself out correcting that, all i can say is "wet wipes were needed".

It's great to hear you've grown up devon, but everyone here knows you cant just come to WHT one day go "i've turned over a new leaf" and expect everyone to forget the past, nor should you come crying that people are talking down on you by commenting on what you've done in the past.

Last but not least, please, have a cookie, getting threads on other forums closed/deleted, thats something to be proud of, i wish i had a bad history i could challange myself by hiding from! :rolleyes:

<edit> BTW way to edit those posts! No better way of twisting [my] words then by editing/altering the original posts! </edit>

Anyone remember 4thdimension.net??;)

No, the thread is invalid because there isn't a complaint from a customer regarding my service in it. If you read what your trying to pasting, you would know that. But instead you come here and waste time that you should be investing into your company.

Yeah, your right, I've had some problem with my shell boxes. I've had a lot of problems in the past. And you know what? I've worked through them, which is why I'm still here today. Everyone has problems, look at FDC.

That guy's server wasn't even in our posession for about two months when he cancelled it. I'm sure there was some dust in the server, but not how your making it out to be and not from being hosted here.

I haven't got any threads closed/deleted on other forums. The thread starters did because the problems were resolved. If you took the time to read what you're using as evidence that my company is bad, you would know this. But instead, you just come here and try to give me and my company a bad name.

No one ever said anything about coming to WHT and starting over. There are plenty of people on this forum that know me, why would I come here trying to start over? And the only reason I argue with you is because you spread lies and your pissed off because I removed your accounts when I found out you were stealing my customers.. Grow up Myles. You truly disgust me.

I haven't chnaged the wording in any of my posts. I've only corrected grammar and spelling mistakes. You just can't stand being wrong can you?

Oh, and by the way, I have the customer from that acky thread coming here soon so that people can get an HONEST opinion of my services from someone that has actually used them, instead of ex-lackies with no life that tried to start their own company by stealing everyone elses customers. Once again.. GROW UP MYLES.

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And what do transit of shell boxes two years ago have to do with dedicated servers we provide now? Besides another lame point your trying to make against my company.
</edit>

Originally posted by porcupine


Sure sounds like its an "its not me, its you" scenario to me.

Perhaps if i hadn't watched you scam so many people or produce so many angry customers while i was "working" for you [yes, notice the quotes], i wouldn't be posting at all, ever consider that out of the 3700 someodd posts, the only two people i really post negatively on are you and falcon-networks/staminus (and them much less often)?

Might be something to think about Devon :rolleyes:. Regardless, this is wasting my time and probably in your twisted mind promoting your services, so i'll stop posting in here and let anyone who wants to know do a search of sharpnet, heck even on the first few pages of google i get:

http://forum.shellreview.com/showthread.php?threadid=104
http://www.acky.net/forums/DCForumID14/141.html

If i had any amount of energy i'd go and actualyl dig for the dirt, but i cant be bothered, keep posting though and i'll give my personal review of your services devon :D.

porcupine,

Your argument based on my thread to deterimine the personal review of Sharpnet is pointless. Judging your posts, you are trying to find any reasons to hold a grudge against Sharpnet. Using my thread isn't the right one.

As I clearly explained in my last posting. There was a big misunderstanding between me and Devon. The problem was basically that we didn't communicate clearly to each other. We ended up blaming each other instead of checking a third party which gave Devon the idea that I did get my money back and with me getting a notice that Paypal closed my claim with no refund giving me the idea that I didn't get the money back. All in a matter of a bad timing.

Finally, I got a phone call from Devon and we discussed a solution.

Of right now, I am currently a customer with Sharpnet and still satisifed.

If you want to improve your review...don't be self biased. Show us a company that has been around for at least 3 years being involved in a type of Internet Hosting Services business that has had more than a high certain number of customers that has never had a complaint. Compare that with Sharpnet if you wish.

Sure, ages don't even matter when it comes to running a business. I'm not talking about 12 years old kids running around and giving orders. 17 years old seems reasonable. With Devon being around for 3 years and he is still in his teenager years, I would say that he is learning more quickly than a 40 yrs old man could.

I ask you, porcupine, to not continue this arguement using my thread as an excuse to bash Sharpnet.

Thank you,
SilenceGold
----
I've never heard that silence is golden....

Stealing customers? Cant help it if they voluntarily join my channel go "oh you run a company too?" ask about our services and move, heck im more then thrilled to take customers who wander our way, who isn't?

I dont need to give you a bad name, for the two years i "worked" for you, you had it tidied up before i even came onboard. Perhaps you should re-read your posts, calling me names, accusing me of stealing your customers (when i worked for you i had no access to customer accounts, information, or any database of any sort), etc. I think you're the one who needs to grow up.

You want a review? Sharpnet, dont ever host there, had an account there spread over 3 servers, every server i had accounts on experienced 1+ weeks of downtime, with no explanation, dns wouldn't resolve properly for most vhosts. Occasional server moves were met with no notification, and were usually spur of the moment, which would result in days, occasionally even weeks of downtime. My experience wasn't as bad as most because this was a set of 3 shell accounts out of many i had at the time for a botnet that runs a few anime channels, but if you had your only bots on sharpnet servers, you were SOL to say the least. Owner has recurring billing problems, a 1800 number that i could swear has only an answering machine hooked up to it, and if you let it ring for too long (aka if somethings broken and you continually call it up) you might get his mom angry and have her to deal with on the phone.

Thats my two cents, oh, and dont ever volunteer tech (eg. work) at sharpnet, because you do not get true access to necessary resources to do your job properly, you will not be "in the loop" on whats going on, you will be later accused of doing nasty things if you ever choose to leave the said company, and you will only ever be used as a scapegoat/feces collector for taking all the :crap: of angry clients who are asking "why is my shell down" "why did i get billed after i cancelled my account?" "why doesen't anyone ever pick up the 1800 number?".

Thats my $0.02, and thats a 2.5 years evaluation of the services, service quality was fairly consistent during this time.

Silence, not even sure which thread is yours, you sure its not the one devon posted himself? :eek:

Okay and this has what to do with dedicated servers?

And if you people can't see how angry porcupine is because he was wrong, then I feel sorry that you can't open your eyes.

He absolutely can't stand competition and will do anything to drag you down. During my months here on WHT, I've heard of a few other company owners having the same problem with this guy..

Give me a break devon, i give up, you continue to lie through your teeth, so whats the point in even argue'ing (As i stated several posts up), im not angry, im just amused at this point that you continue to lie as such.

In case you didn't notice, you're not my competition, i dont provide shells, and you merely resell servers, so maybe you need to come back down to reality. And yes, i'd love to see you dragged down, I personally cant stand people in general who outright lie, cheat, and deceive customers, heck i can even find lies on your page still about your connectivity!

Devon, if you want to call me names, let me know and i'll give you a ring on your 1877 so you can quit polluting the forum, just dont get your mom on the phone again, for the love of God.

BTW, feel free to *NAME* the other people i've brought down and have had problems with on WHT, i'd love to see the specifics on this matter instead of the vague :crap: you keep posting, by all means. Aside from that, quit polluting the thread, you're just re-gurgitating the same old stuff over and over, lots of talk, little fact.

Originally posted by porcupine
Silence, not even sure which thread is yours, you sure its not the one devon posted himself? :eek:

porcupine,

Apparently you lack the ability to research before making a statement.

Take a look at my email address which was authorized when I registered just recently.
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I just realized this board do not allow email addresses to be showing.
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Compare it to the acky's thread where I posted those pictures. I know those image links are broken. You would see those pictures were hosted on the same domain as my email address shows.
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I'll replace one of the broken images at the acky thread. Give me few minutes.
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I have no interest with a person who thinks their opinions count first before facts.

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Do not blame me for fullfilling your request for proof that if it is really me when you notice the new posted image at this url:
http://www.acky.net/forums/DCForumID14/141.html
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Regards,
SilenceGold
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I've never heard that silence is golden....

:emlaugh: Lie about what?! You seem to be the only PROVEN liar here today.

And what proof do you have that I "outright lie, cheat, and deceive customers?" You've yet to show it here. Everything you've said today has been disproved.

Oh, and now we're talking about moms? Yeah, my mom takes messages and answers the phone, and what? It's called customer satisfaction. You can call me toll-free at 1.877.763.8669. My direct extension is 737.

If you really ever had any facts about me or my company then you'd know that I sell servers just like you. I resell foonet bandwidth and rackspace, big deal. This allows me to offer better pricing to my customers [and yours :)] -- Plus, everyone resells, it's called a pyramid.

And unlike you, I don't keep other peoples company's, and names in my mouth or my posts (You should learn this). The people/persons that have problems with you will see this thread and post if they deem necessary.

Lastly, there aren't lies on my pages. I just haven't updated some of the content because I'm getting an entire new site very soon, additionally I let each and every new customer know where we stand today if that information pertains to them (IRCd).

:emlaugh:

Wow this thread has gone beyond pointless. Why don't you guys just drop it because I don't think anyone wants to hear you two fight like 3 year olds anymore. This thread is way off topic so now quit disgracing yourselves and shut up.

Bad Publicity is free publicity.

dk2 -- If you don't want to read it, don't read it and don't post. That's your divine WHT and American right.

If someone was down talking your company in every thread and posting information that wasn't even related to that service, you'd be the same way too..

And for a final note, porcupine never worked for us. He was an IRC op in our channel and I removed his accounts one day because he was an incompetent liar. He probably still is today. And becareful because he'll steal your customers.

hahaha dk2 that was smooth :). As i'd said in my last post, i am dropping it, johnallen is right, and i had a friend who used to do this (arguements went something along the line of this): me - "if you dont breath air you'll suffocate" him - "no you wont" me - "explain how?" him - "you wont!" me - "you'll die if your body doesen't get oxygen" him - "no you wont!" after about 2 minutes it gets really pointless.

Silencegold, on your scale, you totally lost me, but dont even bother trying to explain, i "worked" for sharpnet for over 2 years, i know exactly what im talking about.

I've been a customer of Sharpnet for over a year and a half (since April 1, 2001) and I have had very few problems, though, the problems I have had were quickly resolved and I have Devon to thank for his quick and courteous service. Nothing on Earth is perfect, how can you expect an internet company (the internet being so sketchy itself) to be? The problems I had were not only FEW but also MINOR

So, Devon is all of 17 years old. Are people of his age incapable of quality work? No.

I stand behind Devon's company 100%.

-Koopa

I really enjoy using Sharpnet. They have provided me with a very stable and fast service. I've been using them for approximatley two months, and I have absolutley no complaints with using them.

I currently have a general shell account on pointy, and an IRCd shell on birdi, I'm very pleased with their uptime and stability - as pointy has never crashed, and I've also been pleased with their upstream provider who has been very stable, and has been able to make sure that they always stay online.

I would recommend this service to anyone, and I myself have found that sharpnet has gotten me the most "Bang-for-my-buck".

--
Peter Kieser
pfak@telus.net
irc.striked.org

I would like to thank Sharpnet Communications for a very stable and reliable service. I have been with them over 2 years and have always had nothing but great service and support. I have web service as well as an IRCd running with Sharpnet. Always up and running and if its down, they are always on top of it ASAP. If I have a problem, I can always count on Devon and his staff to fix it ASAP. If you want a great service for web hosting, bots, IRCd, or whatever else you may need, they are your provider. I am glad to have them as my providers of all my services. :) I would recommend them to anyone!

Freddie Murphy aka DaRk-DuDe
Col* Admin
irc.chatnet.org

haha funny how last 3 posts that gave sharpnet such a great review are new people...devon was u just sitting in your channel and begging people for a good review...

No. Do you?

Do I....No I dont sorry devon. I would get into it with you too but I'll let you be just want to put my 2 cents in I felt left out. Im done now you have a good night devon. :)

I think we all get the picture and personally I don't want to read another 5 pages of this dribble. The experience has been posted, we get it, let's move it on...