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leopard2
07-06-2009, 01:07 PM
I just like the FWHT community before the rude "liaison" delete all my post about byet is crab service provider. And banned my account on that community. Why? because they need to earn money from that crab service provider.

Why do I think byet host is crab?
What can I say, they are free, but they are crab. "byet" has an annoying Vista Panel, slow FTP speed, "resellercluster" only allow php4 also not a good panel for free users. But they just fit to the starters to provide a free service and no need to spend one pence. Anyone knows a page about hosting won't choose them. And what reseller get from "byet"s? Mostly I can see just traffic for your domain. The one who is sitting back of you could counting money but you have to promote hardly to get a paid customer who paid to the company, not u(yes, you get 10%,maybe more of them). After all, you may have some traffic for your domain, then sell it at about 10-100 dollars after one year's advertisement(I know you can make tons of money based on your site, you have your way).

BTW, I think they are not resellers, they are ads for "byet" and others. They don't have any company or space on Internet, yes, I call them ads(just me, not so angry about me).

I am not saying these resellers are bad guys, if I don't have a pence, I would start from this level as well. I don't need to pay for anything and I don't lose anything.

And I know many ppl will attack about my words for this, but I said the truth. You have your right to attack my words, you could not change the truth.


these words quoted from www.freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2222419
they are my own words.

I am not a spammer, not a rude user and :lovewht:

"The Stealthy One" is only have Co-branded affiliate free hosts under byet host, also "SeanM" another "liaison".
Actually these posts about affiliate free site under "byet hosting"(US) and "resellercluster"(EU) are defined as forbidden Ads in other communities.
: Rules for Web Hosts
Hosts are welcome to participate on this forum, but are not allowed to advertise their business by plugging their company and/or URL outside the advertising forums.
NO offers with "unlimited" or "unmetered"

Co-branded affiliate free hosts (byet, 0catch, attractsoft, vistapanel, etc) may not advertise their host anywhere. The link is ok in signatures though. This is quoted from other forums.

I saw the FWHT is full of this kind of Ads from liaisons.

What did I say to make him banned my account?

I did not say they are bad guys.I did not say they are ads spammer. All I said is " byet is crab service but it is free and stable". But what "The stealthy One" did today is really "nice" to the FWHT community.

The rude "liaison" only allow praise from us and delete all truth about his money machine?

Now that I know the truth of these dirty liaisons, I won't stay there anymore. Actually now I see the truth below the community surface.

As my account banned there, and I really want to talk out truth about that dark forum. Sorry I posted here.

vpsville
07-08-2009, 05:33 PM
Why would you complain about a free service? That makes no sense. They owe you nothing since you didn't give them anything.

You get what you pay for.

PAH - Tim
07-11-2009, 08:06 AM
Why would you complain about a free service? That makes no sense. They owe you nothing since you didn't give them anything.

You get what you pay for.

Unfortunately I will have to agree in this case.

JFSG
07-11-2009, 08:49 AM
Why would you complain about a free service? That makes no sense. They owe you nothing since you didn't give them anything.

You get what you pay for.

Unfortunately I will have to agree in this case.He's talking about a Liaison not following rules and ban anyone who spots his mistakes.

ZKuJoe
07-18-2009, 05:24 AM
Sorry I didn't notice this thread earlier.

His posts were a violation of a similar rule WHT has that does not allow ad trashing. This user replied to many advertisement threads about how the company's hosting was "crab service". The user received 3 seperate infractions which resulted in a temporary ban.

He then came onto my company's site (which has no affiliation with FreeWHT or any iNET property) and decided to spam our forums about the injustice he received AND to personally attack one of my staff members on FreeWHT. This is NOT the proper way to contact me.

I support my staff's action 100% because there are better methods to voicing his opinions (in the proper section of course) instead of replying to every advertisement thread that he finds using the service he doesn't like and trashing that thread.

bear
07-18-2009, 06:48 AM
His posts were a violation of a similar rule WHT has that does not allow ad trashing.

No privacy policy over there, Joe?

ZKuJoe
07-19-2009, 02:54 AM
I didn't devulge any information that wasn't publicly known. I'm just presenting the facts to clear the misconception others may get about FreeWHT or the staff members there.

bear
07-19-2009, 08:35 AM
His posts were a violation of a similar rule WHT has that does not allow ad trashing.
...
The user received 3 seperate infractions which resulted in a temporary ban.

I didn't devulge any information that wasn't publicly known.
I didn't realize the number and nature of infractions other members receive was something all members had access to over there, but I was unable to see any from my account. My apologies if that's the case.

ZKuJoe
07-19-2009, 12:19 PM
Actually you are correct, the number of infractions is not displayed publicly so I apologize for my last statement. The reason he received the infractions was publicly available in a conversation he had on my company's forum prior to being removed. Lastly, our privacy policy does not restrict us from releasing information about user infractions (it is not common practice to discuss such information). In a case like this where a user is claiming the staff there are corrupt and abusive I found it necessary to respond with the facts rather than request a staff member here to close or remove this thread.

mooseweb
07-19-2009, 12:30 PM
No offense to you Joe or the FreeWHT community, but there are a few of the liasons that abuse their power.

I've made posts where the liasons just delete threads because it's harmful to their reputation, that's what you call abuse. The posts were just saying that this persons company is not marketed or advertised properly, they don't actually give you "item a b or c". Sad that I received a one week ban for endangering a moderators free web hosting site.

ZKuJoe
07-19-2009, 12:57 PM
When was this? I checked your account and you've only made 1 post since you joined. Prior to April I was the only active moderator on FreeWHT and I've only been a staff member since September 2008 so I can't speak for what happened prior to that.

Any form of abuse will not be tolerated so if you experience any please let me know and I will look into the issue immediately, you can even PM me here if you do not have the ability to contact me on FreeWHT.

bear
07-19-2009, 01:06 PM
The reason he received the infractions was publicly available in a conversation he had on my company's forum prior to being removed.
Did he bring it up in that thread, or did someone on staff at freewht do so?

Lastly, our privacy policy does not restrict us from releasing information about user infractions.
I thought it was iNet policy not to discuss accounts and moderation of members with anyone but the account holder and in private? You may wish to double check that, if you haven't already done so.

ZKuJoe
07-19-2009, 01:24 PM
Did he bring it up in that thread, or did someone on staff at freewht do so?
Yes, he had brought it up.

I thought it was iNet policy not to discuss accounts and moderation of members with anyone but the account holder and in private? You may wish to double check that, if you haven't already done so.
I've looked through their TOS and didn't find anything, if I'm incorrect in posting this information please feel free to delete/edit my posts and I will revise my answers.

SoftWareRevue
07-19-2009, 01:53 PM
Yes, he had brought it up.


I've looked through their TOS and didn't find anything, if I'm incorrect in posting this information please feel free to delete/edit my posts and I will revise my answers.You do it however you do it. I've seen forums have infractions in members' profiles and/or right there in the postbit. Unless your policy is not to disclose that information, you can disclose it.

Maybe it's something ya'll outa sort out. And then make whatever decision you come to public.

As for this thread, please take it up with FreeWHT (http://www.freewebhostingtalk.com).

bear
07-19-2009, 01:55 PM
No, I've just asked, and it's me that's wrong. Current policy that I was referring to is WHT specific, and doesn't relate to freewht at this point.
Please accept my apologies. ;)

SoftWareRevue
07-19-2009, 02:10 PM
... Current policy that I was referring to is WHT specific ...Even then ... It's a WHT General Policy. That is, it isn't written. It's just something we don't do.

However, if someone ranted here or elswhere that they were restricted from what they wanted to say for no reason on WHT, I've been known to state exactly what happened. ;)

ZKuJoe
07-19-2009, 02:21 PM
When it comes to allegations of abusive power I take it very seriously and when the staff members are talked poorly about I take it as an attack on all the efforts I am doing to return FreeWHT to the reputable site it once was.

I apologize for this issue being brought up and discussed over here instead of the appropriate channels which it appears some users do not wish to use.

Again, if anybody has an issue with any of the FreeWHT staff please contact me directly and it will be sorted out. In certain cases it is best to voice your issues and concerns publicly but I feel abuse and unfairness are best handled by contacting the people who are able to fix the problem directly. This thread is a good example of somebody having a complaint but it not receiving the attention of any parties involved in a timely manner.

jhickscrave
07-26-2009, 05:47 PM
Why would you complain about a free service? That makes no sense. They owe you nothing since you didn't give them anything.

You get what you pay for.

yep. thats how it goes... enough said on that.