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SpaciousHost
07-05-2009, 10:30 AM
Hello. I know of one company in the US that offers Game Server Reselling (xegaming.net/gsreseller.php) wondering if there are any others (preferably in UK or AUS).

ZacharyW
07-05-2009, 10:51 AM
Yes, counter-strike.com offers a great game server reselling service. There is no tiered pricing, and you get 20% off all of their current pricing. Check this link for more info: http://www.counter-strike.com/reseller.php

They have around 9 locations, I think a few international ones as well.

Hope this helps

SpaciousHost
07-06-2009, 08:47 PM
Ah cheers mate. Have you ever dealt with them yourself?

darkeden
07-06-2009, 09:05 PM
Ah cheers mate. Have you ever dealt with them yourself?

they have been open since 1998 according to the whois so I dont think theyd be bad. lol Im going to try them

CodyRo
07-06-2009, 09:10 PM
Ah cheers mate. Have you ever dealt with them yourself?

counter-strike.com has been around awhile and won't be going anywhere. You may also want to contact Velocity Servers (velocity-servers.net) to see if they have anything to offer - though I don't believe they offer locations in the UK.

CH-Shaun
07-07-2009, 01:22 AM
I haven't seen any Australian GSP's allowing server reselling. I've seen that most don't allow it.

9993939
07-07-2009, 06:23 PM
Do not go with Counter-strike.com. I am a regular CS player and when we have 5v5 scrimmages in their servers, the registry is very bad. Also, their "500 FPS" servers are not actually 500 FPS, i have had friends test it.

XFactorServers
07-08-2009, 10:09 PM
I haven't seen any Australian GSP's allowing server reselling. I've seen that most don't allow it.

It's too bad. We wanted to push into the AUS market but sadly pricing is just so expensive for the product you get in return.

Patrick67
07-09-2009, 01:22 AM
It's too bad. We wanted to push into the AUS market but sadly pricing is just so expensive for the product you get in return.

Not really... Just gotta do some searching ;)

Tony|
07-13-2009, 04:09 AM
Not really... Just gotta do some searching ;)

From my experience, pricing in Australia is fairly high.

M Bacon
07-13-2009, 06:12 AM
Ask these guys. http://www.gameservers.com/

They offer services in Australia and quite a bit more locations.

RSG1
07-13-2009, 09:04 AM
aussie = sky high

andrewklau
07-13-2009, 09:30 AM
Australian prices are damn expensive.

To purchase bandwidth in Australia, you go through many tiers. Eg, Main provider --> Reseller --> Sub Reseller --> Tax etc

The Australian market is also greedy, there is also some datacenters do not allow game servers on their network.

NetDistrict
07-13-2009, 10:23 AM
Well I don’t believe there are much reseller programs for game servers. Most are affiliate programs where I am aware of.

Patrick67
07-16-2009, 12:09 PM
Ask these guys. http://www.gameservers.com/

They offer services in Australia and quite a bit more locations.

Funny, when I select Australia I get a popup stating AU not available would I like to be notified when it is.

Guess it's on the page but thats about it.

CH-Shaun
07-17-2009, 12:22 AM
Hypernia have just started offering Australian game servers again. It might be best to get in touch with them.

Ultima VPS
07-17-2009, 10:31 AM
Australian prices are damn expensive.

To purchase bandwidth in Australia, you go through many tiers. Eg, Main provider --> Reseller --> Sub Reseller --> Tax etc

The Australian market is also greedy, there is also some datacenters do not allow game servers on their network.

Have to disagree with this. Dedicated 100mbps bandwidth can be purchased for $1.10 per GB. Fixed bandwidth can be as low as 70 cents per GB.

Many networks aren't setup to handle game servers with the bandwidth and security requirements. Interactive in Melbourne however have implemented a DDOS system which should change this. Also there are not many resellers who can actually offer 100mbps speeds. Most advertise 100mbps switch ports but there connection is limited to say 10mbps.

Patrick67
07-17-2009, 01:34 PM
Hypernia have just started offering Australian game servers again. It might be best to get in touch with them.

That I know since I work for Hypernia. ;)


Both Perth and Sydney locations. :D

Therapidhost
09-10-2009, 06:53 PM
Yes, counter-strike.com offers a great game server reselling service. There is no tiered pricing, and you get 20% off all of their current pricing. Check this link for more info: http://www.counter-strike.com/reseller.php

They have around 9 locations, I think a few international ones as well.

Hope this helps

Thankyou , im gonna take alook at them.

IGXHost
09-10-2009, 09:34 PM
A lot of GSPs offer reselling opportunities. A quality provider that I know of is NuclearFallout: https://www.nfoservers.com/partnersandreselling.php

easygameservers
09-11-2009, 12:57 AM
A lot of GSPs offer reselling opportunities. A quality provider that I know of is NuclearFallout: https://www.nfoservers.com/partnersandreselling.php

Yes, NFO's is nice, I have actually experimented with it, and you get their really nice order form and control panel integrated in.

IGXHost
09-11-2009, 02:06 AM
Along with that, you're selling some pretty top quality servers with some good support that is barely seen in many other providers. I have experienced with a few of their servers for a few competitive gaming teams that I've sponsored in the past.

PEAK-Bobby
09-11-2009, 04:09 AM
Why not just find a colocation data center in Australia and ship your own hardware over there and start hosting your own Aus game servers?

Therapidhost
09-11-2009, 12:32 PM
Why not just find a colocation data center in Australia and ship your own hardware over there and start hosting your own Aus game servers?

Wouldn't that cost loads???

MikeTrike
09-11-2009, 12:36 PM
Wouldn't that cost loads???

Server rental $150-$350+ depending on specs.
Server colo $50-$150 depending on the data center. But you own the gear and can spec it out to whatever you want and its the same price. For example a $500/mo rental server would still only cost you $50-$150/mo for colo. You may also need to factor in additional bandwidth depending on load, but still generally cheaper.

easygameservers
09-11-2009, 01:49 PM
Server rental $150-$350+ depending on specs.
Server colo $50-$150 depending on the data center. But you own the gear and can spec it out to whatever you want and its the same price. For example a $500/mo rental server would still only cost you $50-$150/mo for colo. You may also need to factor in additional bandwidth depending on load, but still generally cheaper.

Don't forget to add in the cost of actually buying the server before you can colo it.

MikeTrike
09-11-2009, 02:12 PM
Don't forget to add in the cost of actually buying the server before you can colo it.

True, but still cost effective if you plan to be in business for a while. ;)

Lets do a $500/mo server for example over the course of 12 months.
Rental: $500 * 12 = $6,000

Colo: $150 * 12 = $1,800 + $2,000~ Server = $3,800

$6,000 - $3,800 = $2,200

Even if you plan for $1,000 in colo tech support and/or hardware replacements that's still $1,200 in the positive. That's the worst case scenario, I'm sure you can play with the numbers and save even more.

The reason we went colo was because I wanted to offer VPS, and everywhere I went they wanted $1,000/mo for a dedicated box that met my specifications. Now I have a 42U cab so I can just stick it in there and say I need an extra $100/mo for additional bandwidth consumed.

Rental: $1,000/mo * 12 = $12,000
Colo: $100/mo * 12 = $1,200 + $5,000 Server = $6,200
Also planning for failure and support $1,000
so $12,000 - $7,200 = $4,800/yr that I have to better grow my business and expand offerings to my clients.

So if you can find a solid colo provider with good available support if/when needed. Then colo can potentially save you silly gobs and gobs of money in the long run. That's just looking at 12 months. I will go one step further and say the server's expected life is 36 months in service. I will do it with another decent performance game server in mind.

Rental: $500/mo * 36 = $18,000
Colo: $150/mo * 36 = $5,400 + $2,000 Server + $3,000 for worst case scenario you need a bunch of support.

That's only $10,400 over three years, that's $7,600 that you did not need to spend, and is pretty much enough to operate an additional server for three years.

Don't get me wrong, rentals are a good place to start. Also it really comes down to personal preference and how much you want to mess with.

XFactorServers
09-12-2009, 02:21 AM
It's honestly very silly to resell game servers. It's not the same as reselling dedicated servers etc.

Tony|
09-13-2009, 04:35 PM
Resellers are awesome! :)

darkeden
09-13-2009, 07:26 PM
It's honestly very silly to resell game servers. It's not the same as reselling dedicated servers etc.

What is silly about it. It hardly costs anything and customers can come faster then from dedicated servers.

EQHosting
09-13-2009, 08:02 PM
It's honestly very silly to resell game servers. It's not the same as reselling dedicated servers etc.

No overhead for them - they leave the overhead up to us :)

XFactorServers
09-13-2009, 08:04 PM
What is silly about it. It hardly costs anything and customers can come faster then from dedicated servers.

Hardly costs anything ? So you want to run a business with no investment. I don't see how customers can come faster because you are a reseller you mean slower of course.

darkeden
09-15-2009, 12:38 PM
Hardly costs anything ? So you want to run a business with no investment. I don't see how customers can come faster because you are a reseller you mean slower of course.

Lets say you offered shared hosting and wanted to also go into gameservers but where not yet at the point of getting more servers. 30 dollars is all you need for your first customer *more or less*



And when I sold game servers they sold much faster then dedicated servers if you can get decent pricing on per slot.

interactive3d
09-16-2009, 11:04 AM
As a reseller you lack the technical inside knowledge and complete management, unless you would set for TCAdmin or any other basic controlpanel anyway. Hosters using such technology usually have little to add to their services as their panel does it all anyway as far as they can see. Click on a button - you dont know what happens but it works most of the times.. ;)

So if you are looking to resell and need the complete control over your services, you need to look for a host that shares all data generated by the game and by the OS/server to you.
Only with knowledge you will make a difference. Your mainstream competition is usually the super cheap no knowledge button clicking "hoster". They can only compete on pricing as the rest is out of their control. If you join that fight, your slots will be priced on 20 cents (10 cents in 2011). If you can add something to your business and offering - your prices can be fair and profitable.

Defcon|Rich
09-24-2009, 01:59 AM
To expand on what was said above, If your interested in a no-fuss solution you might take a look at the tcadmin dedicated reseller options.

http://www.tcadmin.com/dedicated.php