What is your personal opinion [Archive]

exasko

11-07-2002, 08:45 PM

When you create a website, do you prefer Frontpage, Dreamweaver, or anyother site builder, or just to code it your self, and why?

What is moving ahead, to code by hand, or to use an application to do the coding for you?

Thank you

mind21_98

11-07-2002, 08:47 PM

I prefer Dreamweaver. In an ideal world, everyone would code HTML in Notepad, but some people are lazy (take me for instance). :) Sometimes I do need to code certain portions by hand though, in case I have to use an editor which messes up your HTML.

foxsmoke

11-07-2002, 08:48 PM

I use notepad for the sake of simplicity. I have tried (and used to use) frontpage, but now I find it much more confusing, trying to get it to do what you want. Plus, if you want to increse your skills it is best done by hand. I do still temporarily use frontpage to figure out something I can't get to work, but that is rarely.

MGCJerry

11-07-2002, 08:48 PM

When doing HTML pages I do my basic layout in Front Page Express 2.0 and do my other work by hand.

When doing php pages, I use my layout.php file, and I can build page layouts using its functions. It really helps especially for tables and such. :)

Acroplex

11-07-2002, 08:49 PM

ColdFusion Studio.

exasko

11-07-2002, 08:50 PM

This is my whole opinion on the matter...

Anyone can use dreamweaver/frontpage/any other, i honestly believe it shows true dedication in the website if you take the time to code it by hand. I think it is also stepping ahead and not behind, because you know you dont need anyones elses help to build a website. Though that is only my opinion

Acroplex

11-07-2002, 08:52 PM

Just a note: Dreamweaver does not correct sloppy design :D It's a great visual tool (especially the latest MX version) but it's not like Front-spit-page.

Acronym BOY

11-07-2002, 08:58 PM

EditPad lite for all of my c, perl, php, xhtml, and css programming needs.

richy

11-07-2002, 09:03 PM

vi :)
and dreamweaver when i need to figure out advanced tables easily but im not a great designer.

interactive

11-07-2002, 09:18 PM

phped - works wonders not just for php....

filburt1

11-07-2002, 09:19 PM

People who say Notepad is the best are idiots (sorry ;) :D): if a text editor cannot auto-indent (i.e., stay indented after pressing Enter) then it is worthless and makes your code look horrible.

http://www.arachnophilia.com :)

Acroplex

11-07-2002, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by filburt1
People who say Notepad is the best are idiots (sorry ;) :D): if a text editor cannot auto-indent (i.e., stay indented after pressing Enter) then it is worthless and makes your code look horrible.

http://www.arachnophilia.com :)

I have to say that Arachnophilia is an excellent free editor, although last time I used it was in 1996.

interactive

11-07-2002, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by filburt1
People who say Notepad is the best are idiots (sorry ;) :D): if a text editor cannot auto-indent (i.e., stay indented after pressing Enter) then it is worthless and makes your code look horrible.

http://www.arachnophilia.com :)

hey now to each his own. I have to agree on the auto indent, but it does serve it's purposes.

Acronym BOY

11-07-2002, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by richy
vi :)
and dreamweaver when i need to figure out advanced tables easily but im not a great designer.

Well, if I am on linux, than its emacs :p

I was too lazy to get it running on windows as of yet, so I still use editpad lite.

richy

11-07-2002, 10:13 PM

yeah ive used emacs a couple of times, the problem is from years of writing code, every single program auto indents, even notepad, theres a subrouting somewhere in my brain that presses tab with my left little finger, its very hard to get out of doing it lol. emacs does colouring which is nice. as for me being mad because i indent automatically instead of using software lol gee sorry lol, i do see your point but i just got used to it and do it myself without thinking.

TheDoctor

11-07-2002, 10:19 PM

IBM's Websphere home page builder.

**No bebate entered into it's the best. Period.

Why you ask ? well use it and you will see.

exasko

11-07-2002, 10:24 PM

Becuz I have had a debate with a couple people saying they use dreamweaver, or other applications to build websites, and I think it is cooler, my dedication to sit down and code it all by scratch, with out an application doing most of the work...personal opinion

Barbara

11-08-2002, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by Acronym BOY
EditPad lite for all of my c, perl, php, xhtml, and css programming needs.

Ditto.

Kaumil

11-08-2002, 03:43 AM

Pico :)

Lippy

11-08-2002, 03:58 AM

More often than not I simply use notpad cause there is no better way to get something right than to do it yourself, unless you know nothing of what you are doing. Besides once you get the page up and running you can say with pride "Hey look I did all of this myself" and its a great feeling knowing you did it. Similar to when you've worked hard all week and get that pay check.

Rebies

11-08-2002, 05:15 AM

Cold Fusion Studio / Homesite (basically the same software - just one has more Cold Fusion support)

Kaumil

11-08-2002, 05:20 AM

Originally posted by Lippy
More often than not I simply use notpad cause there is no better way to get something right than to do it yourself, unless you know nothing of what you are doing. Besides once you get the page up and running you can say with pride "Hey look I did all of this myself" and its a great feeling knowing you did it. Similar to when you've worked hard all week and get that pay check.

Agreed. Plus you learn more as you do everything your self, from scratch!