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michaelfoo
06-11-2009, 07:40 PM
Hi guys,
I'm starting this thread as I have been following HyperVM posts lately. Some people have given up all hope on HyperVM while there are some who are still convinced that it might be worth to stay with HyperVM.

We used to provide VPS equipped with HyperVM control panel. Unfortunately after the incident, we have disabled HyperVM control panel on all our servers and started deploying our own in-house control panel.

Interestingly, our members have contributed a lot and I realised that there are a lot of choices available. Hence, I'm compiling a list here and hope it will be useful to anyone who is struggling with hunting for HyperVM replacement:


Currently Available:
Paid Control Panels:
Virtuozzo - Majority feel that it is expensive
VDSManager-Linux - €29.00/mo or €190.00/one time for 1 server (more (http://ispsystem.com/en/software/vdsmanager/prices/))
Cloudmin - $149/10x VM/year (more (http://www.virtualmin.com/cloudmin-offer))
FluidVM - Stable to be released on 15th July 2009 (more (http://www.binarykarma.com/fluidvm_overview.php))
Aventurin{e} - (more (http://www.aventurin.net/))
Radar - (more (http://atechmedia.com/radar/features)
VZManager - For Xen only (more (http://www.xengrid.co.uk/home))

Coming Soon:
VZWave - Free atm, Releasing on 18th June 2009 (more (http://www.vzwave.com/))
SolusVM - Supports Single Server only, $0.40/VM/mo, Releasing on mid July 2009(more (http://www.solsuvm.com/))

Free Control Panels:
GPLHost - For Debian
fosvm - Supports Single Server only (more (http://fosvm.sourceforge.net/))
vtonf - Seems to be outdated as it was last updated on 29th April 2008 (more (http://www.vtonf.com/))
FreeVPS - Even more outdated as it was last updated on 8th February 2007 (more (http://www.freevps.com/versions.html))


Unknown Control Panels (By Members here):
Adam-AEC - 90% done coding for Xen
Rick-RikeMedia - Releasing next week or so


Personally I'm looking good at GPLHost's and VZWave's. The thing about GPLHost seems to be OpenVZ won't be released anytime too soon unless there are contributors as the developer is more experienced in Xen.

VZWave on the other hand I have read the developer's post and I am very convinced with what he is trying to achieve with his product, not to mention it would be released to support OpenVZ soon.

Let's keep the list updated and I hope it will be useful to anyone who is currently looking for HyperVM replacement.

Cheers.

PTWS
06-11-2009, 07:47 PM
Hi,

Nice job on the list. One correction thou:

VDSManager shoud be VDSManager-Linux (it will do the same as hypervm):

VDSmanager-Linux Trial (2 weeks) €0.00
VDSmanager-Linux 1 month €29.00
VDSmanager-Linux Lifetime €190.00

Description from the official website:

"VDSmanager for Linux is a web-based control interface designed to support such free popular server virtualization technologies like OpenVZ, Xen, and Vserver."

vzwave
06-11-2009, 07:50 PM
VZWave on the other hand I have read the developer's post and I am very convinced with what he is trying to achieve with his product, not to mention it would be released to support OpenVZ soon.

Cheers mate!

michaelfoo
06-11-2009, 07:50 PM
Thanks for correcting my mistake. Updated!

FazeWire-Craig
06-11-2009, 08:45 PM
I come here hoping to provide some extra input, but you really have nailed them all as far as I know!

Nice list, I'll have to bookmark this :)

quantumphysics
06-11-2009, 09:08 PM
Xen/KVM Free - Opensource

http://www.karesansui-project.info/

asturmas
06-11-2009, 09:17 PM
Hi,

Please add this coming soon control panel:

Panenthe - 5$/mo for a minimum of 10VPS's. (more (http://www.panenthe.com/main/welcome/))

Arber
06-11-2009, 09:29 PM
Xen/KVM Free - Opensource

http://www.karesansui-project.info/

That is the greatest free vps panel out there. It was better than hypervm

FHDave
06-11-2009, 09:35 PM
After all this incidence, are you really going trust your business again on a free control panel developed by somebody?

RavC
06-11-2009, 09:37 PM
To be perfectly honest, I'd much rather trust an open-source panel that has been peer reviewed than one of the many upcoming closed source me-too panels of which we have no idea about their security.

DWS2006
06-11-2009, 09:43 PM
To be perfectly honest, I'd much rather trust an open-source panel that has been peer reviewed than one of the many upcoming closed source me-too panels of which we have no idea about their security.

I was going to post this same opinion myself. Many underestimate the power of open source. An open source project with active development can be as feature rich and secure as a paid solution. Think open office.

Everyday
06-11-2009, 09:46 PM
Do any of these panels support windows guests on xen?

Does karesansui support central management of servers?

Tyler_Husted
06-11-2009, 10:12 PM
I am hosted By Rick at RikeMedia (VPSSpeed) It sounds like he is working hard on his own HyperVM alternative, I can't wait to see it.

jenok
06-11-2009, 10:49 PM
Panenthe seems interesting
KVM + XEN + OpenVZ

anyone using Panenthe ?

Everyday
06-11-2009, 10:54 PM
I don't think it's available yet.

jenok
06-11-2009, 11:09 PM
I don't think it's available yet.

Do you mean Panenthe ?

Yea, they are not available yet. but it looks promissing with HyperVM Migrator. ;)

quantumphysics
06-11-2009, 11:29 PM
I'm gonna toss Karesansui onto a sandbox later on and see how it goes.

Looks like its updated **VERY** frequently, last release being yesterday

StarkServers
06-12-2009, 12:09 AM
Karesansui looks very nice, very professional too and it's free.

Might just develop OpenVZ support for it since they will add KVM support - true open source solution for the industry. That's what we need.

It will prevent things like this happening again where we rely on heavily encoded software.

Qgyen
06-12-2009, 12:44 AM
Surprising how many are coming to fill the void left by HyperVM.

Wish them all luck, but product development and support is FAR more difficult than it sounds.

quad3datwork
06-12-2009, 12:51 AM
Does karesansui support central management of servers?

http://www.karesansui-project.info/wiki/karesansui/En_howto_multi_host


I managed to find an old Pentium D box with Intel VT-d in datacenter closet. I'm in middle of installing Karesansui right now. Will post evaluations soon. :cool:

BTW, anyone here read Japanese? My Chinese does not help much right now... :)

Mxhub
06-12-2009, 01:12 AM
After all this incidence, are you really going trust your business again on a free control panel developed by somebody?

I agree. Long term wise, we must make sure the company behind the vps control panel must have a solid background & backing . lxlab is a one-man show company and the owner's (selfish) act had created a huge mess in this "budget vps" industry. Parallel is a promising one but i agree with most people that their pricing model really kill the deal..



-joseph

OwlsHosting
06-12-2009, 01:17 AM
Thanks for the info - I was wondering what the alternatives were

Plutost
06-12-2009, 01:21 AM
Hey thanks my friend for this List
Still I'm thinking to switch to Virtuozzo as it is more safe and haven't got any vulnerabilities if I'm correct.

quad3datwork
06-12-2009, 01:53 AM
Karesansui seems to be backed by HDE Inc (http://www.hde.co.jp/en/) (http://www.hde.co.jp/en/%29), which have been in business since 1996 with employee number of 60.

Following are their trading partners,
Hewlett-Packard Japan, Ltd.
Nihon Unisys, Ltd.
MITSUBISHI ELECTRIC CORPORATION
NEC Soft, Ltd.
NS Solutions Corporation
Canon Sales Co., Inc.
Hitachi Information Systems, Ltd.
SOFTBANK COMMERCE CORP.
Fuji Xerox Co., Ltd.
RedHat,K.K.

quantumphysics
06-12-2009, 01:58 AM
http://www.karesansui-project.info/wiki/karesansui/En_howto_multi_host


I managed to find an old Pentium D box with Intel VT-d in datacenter closet. I'm in middle of installing Karesansui right now. Will post evaluations soon. :cool:

BTW, anyone here read Japanese? My Chinese does not help much right now... :)

just pick english at the first prompt i think

59box
06-12-2009, 02:19 AM
Thanks for this list.

Karesansui really look polished on the site. Looking forward to the report of those who are testing it. I'm going to get a box to test it also.

Surprised that it has escaped attention until now.

quad3datwork
06-12-2009, 02:41 AM
Well, my preliminary thought of Karesansui is "ok". Note that I only have about 30 minutes of playing with it. (It's 1:20AM already, I will sleep soon.)

- I don't believe there is a way to load custom OSTemplate. You can only install CentOS?
- Creating a guest requires remote or local kernal and initrd image. I used http://mirror.fdcservers.net/centos/5.3/os/x86_64/images/xen/
- It requires DNS hostname resolve correctly. You can force URL by IP, but it gets annoying.
- (Probably not Karesansui fault) There are 2 standard CentOS bridges: virbr0 & xenbr0. Karesansui uses virbr0, which it should use xenbr0 instead. This will cause the VNC install not able to go outbound. (Not sure if it's the case this test machine have 3 NICs.)

Overall, Karesansui is REALLY polished.

I will test more thoroughly over the weekend. Plus I will try to upgrade to Xen 3.3+ and see if Karesansui would work with it. :D

cAPTAIN^k
06-12-2009, 02:59 AM
VZWave looks good :)

-OY-
06-12-2009, 03:11 AM
http://webvz.sourceforge.net/ is an alternative to HyperVM. It's an open source control panel for OpenVZ.

nwmcsween
06-12-2009, 04:01 AM
Ok here we go... there are backends and frontends to the overall provisioning of vps. For backends there is eucaluptus or opennebula for front ends I _*highly*_ recommend using only panels that use libvirt to interact with the virtualization tech, as libvirt is becoming the de facto standard, right now the only web front end for libvirt is ovirt.

michaelfoo
06-12-2009, 04:13 AM
Hi everyone,
I don't think I can edit my first post now. I guess I'll just compile a list here and finally request the Moderator to edit my first post to include the list.

Xen/KVM Free - Opensource

http://www.karesansui-project.info/

Is that site down now or it's my connection, as I can't load that website to find out more information.

Hi,

Please add this coming soon control panel:

Panenthe - 5$/mo for a minimum of 10VPS's. (more (http://www.panenthe.com/main/welcome/))

By any chance you are the developer? I have visited that website and I think it lacks screenshot to show what is it all about actually at the same time there is no mention of any product launch/BETA dates. Correct me if I'm wrong.

<<snipped removed posts>>

Surprising how many are coming to fill the void left by HyperVM.

Wish them all luck, but product development and support is FAR more difficult than it sounds.

That's right, and the reason why I started this thread :D

http://webvz.sourceforge.net/ is an alternative to HyperVM. It's an open source control panel for OpenVZ.

I'll add it to the list as well. Only downside seems to be it was last updated on 7th September 2008.


Cheers.

RaulGdS
06-12-2009, 07:17 AM
A few more:

Xenserver
ProxmoxVE

Both of them have free versions. Haven´t try them out yet...

vivithemage
06-12-2009, 09:49 AM
I got an email from the sales guys at Radar :

The annual licence fee would start at £8,000 for a basic system.

In addition to this site license and in response to the current situation with HyperVM we are working on a different pricing model on a per hypervisor and/or VM basis. We'll have more details about this soon.

I'd rather get Virtuozzo at that price point!

quantumphysics
06-12-2009, 10:25 AM
Please tell me that's not £8,000 per node.

quad3datwork
06-12-2009, 10:42 AM
The annual licence fee would start at £8,000 for a basic system.

In addition to this site license and in response to the current situation with HyperVM we are working on a different pricing model on a per hypervisor and/or VM basis. We'll have more details about this soon.

I'd rather get Virtuozzo at that price point!

If the starting price is already @ £8,000.... I don't think the "new" price model will be any better. I do not believe the vendor would drop more than 50% off its current listed pricing. Even if so, it is totally out of reach for most of the budget VPS providers. :smash:

vivithemage
06-12-2009, 10:44 AM
Please tell me that's not £8,000 per node.

After that first automated looking email, I responded with asking about that price, stating it's a bit high for me, and I would prefer to go with virtuozzo at that price point. He said :

That's your decision - use which ever software you want. We aren't trying to accommodate hosts without budgets or small companies setup from their bedrooms (like many of the companies we have encountered over the last few weeks)- our software is designed for enterprise or large companies with the budget to run a sustainable and profitable service.

I doubt they will lower the price to anything worthwhile for the cheaper web hosting companies out there.

At that price point, i'd prefer VMWare if I was a large company, haha.

RU-Adam
06-12-2009, 10:47 AM
For $3500 you can get Virtuozzo with unlimited containers per node and premium support. That price is insane.

HAClusterTech
06-12-2009, 10:47 AM
Talk about having an attitude...geez. *At the Radar reply*

vivithemage
06-12-2009, 10:52 AM
I agree Andy, a little hard. I am sure they are getting swamped with emails about costs, but when you do not list your prices, what do you expect.

I would also hire someone to create an inhouse panel for £8,000.


I love how SolusVM is going to turn out, but I do not know if I can wait that long to pick up a new panel. I also like VDSManager, and Cloudmin, but I am still not 100% sure which to grab...or if I should just spend a few thousand on hireing 1-2 developers to create a panel for me.

JFSG
06-12-2009, 11:27 AM
After that first automated looking email, I responded with asking about that price, stating it's a bit high for me, and I would prefer to go with virtuozzo at that price point. He said :



I doubt they will lower the price to anything worthwhile for the cheaper web hosting companies out there.

At that price point, i'd prefer VMWare if I was a large company, haha.
They must have think too highly of their product, which I doubt is anywhere near Virtuozzo's features.

quad3datwork
06-12-2009, 12:38 PM
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=866733

Not really HyperVM alternative. More like API calls to HyperVM from WHMCS. Assumed master/slave nodes still needs to firewall off HyperVM ports for public access.

michaelfoo
06-12-2009, 12:56 PM
If the starting price is already @ £8,000.... I don't think the "new" price model will be any better. I do not believe the vendor would drop more than 50% off its current listed pricing. Even if so, it is totally out of reach for most of the budget VPS providers. :smash:

The price is madness! 8 grands for that software?

I am quite impressed by the appearance of Radar as I believe it is the only VPS control panel, which has such nice template.

Unfortunately, with such a rude reply from the company, they just help to turn their potential customers to Virtuozzo :D

Cheers.

noxray
06-12-2009, 04:14 PM
good news!

forum.lxlabs.com/index.php?t=msg&th=12432&start=0&

nwmcsween
06-12-2009, 06:09 PM
So I just looked over http://www.karesansui-project.info and it seems it uses libvirt so in my books it's the way to go.

PogiWeb
06-12-2009, 07:32 PM
good news!

forum.lxlabs.com/index.php?t=msg&th=12432&start=0&

I'll have to wait and see what happens here.

romes
06-13-2009, 12:12 AM
forum.lxlabs.com/index.php?t=msg&th=12432&start=0&


Yep, I am looking forward to seeing if he can work things out and bring hypervm back.

krisbfunk
06-13-2009, 07:25 AM
Http://forum.lxlabs.com/index.php?t=msg&th=12432&start=0&

Iphone users couldnt click the link so i am reposting

SoftDux
06-13-2009, 12:04 PM
Ok here we go... there are backends and frontends to the overall provisioning of vps. For backends there is eucaluptus or opennebula for front ends I _*highly*_ recommend using only panels that use libvirt to interact with the virtualization tech, as libvirt is becoming the de facto standard, right now the only web front end for libvirt is ovirt.

Which frontends would you suggest to use with libvirt?

michaelfoo
06-15-2009, 07:10 AM
Hi everyone,
Sorry for the lack of update. I just left UK for business+vacation trip in Asia. During this time I will have limited internet access.

Anyway, just a quick update. I saw in another thread that SolusVM SSE project has been dropped. The good thing is that seems that they are working on a multi-server support now but the bad thing appears to be obviously longer waiting time.

And the only surprise left for "Coming Soon Control Panel" seems to be VZWave. This Thursday is their announced release date, we'll see if they can surprise us here :D

Cheers.

tom-VH
06-15-2009, 09:52 AM
We actually migrated to Forasse. The reason we chose it is for their Import tool. We had too many VPS accounts to have to re-create them in a database.

devonblzx
06-15-2009, 11:25 AM
And who are they? Who is behind it? What kind of testing has it gone through? What kind of security audits has it had?

Its a small development team from the US. I have worked with them for about six months while they developed this software so I trust them with my servers.

Gary4gar
06-15-2009, 04:25 PM
Thanks for list, you save me lot of searching

wb-Jay
06-15-2009, 04:27 PM
And who are they? Who is behind it? What kind of testing has it gone through? What kind of security audits has it had?

This looks like a promising product, however I would be more comfortable if they listed a phone number, address etc. etc. unless this is a solo operation?

VN-Ken
06-15-2009, 04:31 PM
This looks like a promising product, however I would be more comfortable if they listed a phone number, address etc. etc. unless this is a solo operation?

Just because a company does not list an address or phone number does not mean this is a solo operation.

Realistically speaking, its a startup, and given the industry, I don't think that they would have an office necessarily, especially if the developers are across the world.

*Thinks about WHMCS*

wb-Jay
06-15-2009, 04:39 PM
Makes sense - I have no problem with start up/solo operations, just not in the software development business after the recent tragic events.

ValueVPS-Dave
06-15-2009, 06:14 PM
SolusVM devs dropped the single Server edition and concentrated on the Multi Server Edition to bring the release forward....

VL-Adam
06-15-2009, 06:35 PM
SolusVM devs dropped the single Server edition and concentrated on the Multi Server Edition to bring the release forward....

So does this mean that only people with slave servers on their main node can use SolusVM?

ValueVPS-Dave
06-15-2009, 06:36 PM
No, it just means that there will not be different versions - one version of SolusVM for all.

michaelfoo
06-15-2009, 08:01 PM
No, it just means that there will not be different versions - one version of SolusVM for all.

Is there any dates for the launch of this version?

Cheers.

wb-Jay
06-15-2009, 08:13 PM
It's still July 2009, reference from http://www.solusvm.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5

sharmaine1111
06-16-2009, 06:23 AM
http://www.forasse.com/screenshots/

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?p=6237813

also read this

http://forum.lxlabs.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=67887&

JSCL
06-17-2009, 11:46 AM
Hey,

To be honest, VSControl from Devpond which was developed for WOWVPS should definitely be added. Having spoken to Greg, it's due to be released shortly due to the HyperVM issue and I have tested it and it is truly great to use.

PogiWeb
06-17-2009, 02:55 PM
Hey,

To be honest, VSControl from Devpond which was developed for WOWVPS should definitely be added. Having spoken to Greg, it's due to be released shortly due to the HyperVM issue and I have tested it and it is truly great to use.

Now, i'm assuming you tested the Xen version? I just got done reading a thread where Greg was talking about OpenVZ and wasn't sure if it was created yet.

JSCL
06-17-2009, 03:04 PM
Now, i'm assuming you tested the Xen version? I just got done reading a thread where Greg was talking about OpenVZ and wasn't sure if it was created yet.

I tested the Xen version and I can tell you... it's amazing. The OpenVZ one is due for completion within the next couple of weeks, I think!?

Maybe Greg can correct me :)

PogiWeb
06-17-2009, 03:55 PM
I tested the Xen version and I can tell you... it's amazing. The OpenVZ one is due for completion within the next couple of weeks, I think!?

Maybe Greg can correct me :)

Thanks Jason for the clarification and I would love to see the demo myself. :)

keywolf
06-17-2009, 04:43 PM
Sounds good, Ill certainly give VSControl a go :). Ive been playing around with Xen on my desktop today which is a quad core and its quite easy to use.

JSCL
06-17-2009, 05:14 PM
Thanks Jason for the clarification and I would love to see the demo myself. :)

Hey,

Shoot me an e-mail and I'll show you :)

keywolf
06-17-2009, 05:16 PM
Did they give an ETA to releasing the Xen VSControl?

JSCL
06-17-2009, 06:06 PM
Did they give an ETA to releasing the Xen VSControl?

Couple of weeks ;)

Jag
06-17-2009, 06:59 PM
my last post got deleted and I got slapped around by mods so I'll be careful in my responses so you can actually read the info this time :)

Its been released, over a year ago, but kept for our own live platforms. We have decided to release it now, we hope to start taking orders next week. We already deploy and use it daily.

I'll be happy to show anyone a demo.

The openvz version will almost certainly, NOT, be ready in a few weeks but we are working on it.

Tyler_Husted
06-17-2009, 08:07 PM
Here is a new blog entry from Rick at RikeMedia who is Developing SpeedCP his own custom system.

As you may already know, we’re building this from scratch, which will take time. In the next week or so, we hope to get order and setup functionallity live, along with start/stop/reboot/change os abilities. Things such as backups, bandwidth graphs and the ability to run system commands will be launched at a later date.

Lets take a look at some of the features:

To be included in the initial release

Customer area where you can manage multiple VPS accounts (no need to log in individually to manage each of your accounts!)
Billing, support and knowledgebase are all tightly integrated into the control panel.
Start/Stop/Restart/Change OS
Disk space usage monitoring
Managed DNS — note: we are still working out some kinks with this so may not include it in the initial release.
Announcement system so we can let you know about new features!

Later releases to also include:

Backup options
Bandwidth usage graphs
Virtual Shell Console
More great features (We’re keeping these secret for now
we wouldnt want to give it all away at once!)



Here is the screenshot provided
http://blog.vpsspeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/firefoxscreensnapz0011-300x184.jpg

michaelfoo
06-19-2009, 10:14 PM
Is there any other control panel besides all these mentioned?

Meanwhile, users of control panels are welcome to provide feedback here as well!

wise
06-20-2009, 04:06 AM
we are working with a control panel developer not mentioned here .. openvz based. So far lots of bugs and not usuable live yet, but looks promising.

PTWS
06-20-2009, 04:34 PM
Now, i'm assuming you tested the Xen version? I just got done reading a thread where Greg was talking about OpenVZ and wasn't sure if it was created yet.

I have tested the demo and it looks like it does the job without fuss. Not full/clutered with options like HyperVM, but really nice and clean.

We are hoping to see it come to life real soon with OpenVZ. I hope Greg finds some time to put the foruns at devepond.com up and running to start a lively discussion of features, improvements and timeline/roadmap.

I think the time is "now" if anyone wants to catch the void created by all this mess.

Cheers

Jag
06-22-2009, 11:19 AM
I have tested the demo and it looks like it does the job without fuss. Not full/clutered with options like HyperVM, but really nice and clean.

We are hoping to see it come to life real soon with OpenVZ. I hope Greg finds some time to put the foruns at devepond.com up and running to start a lively discussion of features, improvements and timeline/roadmap.

I think the time is "now" if anyone wants to catch the void created by all this mess.

Cheers

I'll get our forums restored and post some screenys, info, and more info.

coeplicltd
06-22-2009, 11:33 AM
I was hoping to see the response about meeting with Mr Ligesh's father about the future on Lxlabs, on the lxlabs forum but that appears broken now - does anybody have any more info on this?

hertzwebsolutions
06-22-2009, 12:08 PM
I was hoping to see the response about meeting with Mr Ligesh's father about the future on Lxlabs, on the lxlabs forum but that appears broken now - does anybody have any more info on this?

A decision is being made on what license to release the code under by Ligesh's cousin on behalf of his father. We are still awaiting any news on this.

coeplicltd
06-22-2009, 12:12 PM
Thanks for that :) - may i ask wheres the best source to obtain the latest info on this?

hertzwebsolutions
06-22-2009, 12:13 PM
LXLabs forum is working fine for me: http://forum.lxlabs.com/index.php?t=thread&frm_id=56&

Rens
06-26-2009, 05:06 AM
Any updates on the alternatives in the making? We are probably going for XenCenter, but we need a good client-controlpanel, any suggestions?

VL-Adam
06-28-2009, 02:05 PM
Hey!
After surfing VZWave's forum,
VZWave 1.0 Beta is out for anyone to download: http://vzwave.com/showthread.php?p=74&posted=1#post74

FazeWire-Craig
06-28-2009, 02:36 PM
VZWave looks interesting, I was keeping my eyes on Solus and VDSmanager. I'll try this VZWave out :)

ServerOrigin
07-03-2009, 09:19 PM
I was surprised to not see xVM listed here.

xpservices
07-08-2009, 05:56 PM
Doesn anyone has seen any screenshots of vzwave - also im curious about installing a commercial product without knowing what i will be cahrged for it :)

michaelfoo
07-08-2009, 07:33 PM
They mentioned it in the forum that it will be around US$1/container:
http://www.vzwave.com/showpost.php?p=96&postcount=29

I'm sure the price will be reasonable considering they are targeting at HyperVM refugees! :)

hichkas
07-25-2009, 04:23 AM
please provide me best vm work with XEn
for creating windows/linux vps..
free.

gplhost
07-25-2009, 05:41 AM
Hi,

Just a quick message to let you guys know that our CentOS port of DTC-Xen is now working quite well. It's not released yet, but it's available on our Git for those who want to participate to the test phase. So, finally, we can say we are an alternative to HyperVM, as it seemed that the lack of a CentOS version was an issue for most. I have also posted a howto on our wiki if you need to know how to install it. Enjoy!

Thomas

JFSG
07-25-2009, 05:54 AM
Hi,

Just a quick message to let you guys know that our CentOS port of DTC-Xen is now working quite well. It's not released yet, but it's available on our Git for those who want to participate to the test phase. So, finally, we can say we are an alternative to HyperVM, as it seemed that the lack of a CentOS version was an issue for most. I have also posted a howto on our wiki if you need to know how to install it. Enjoy!

ThomasDoes it work for XenServer or it works for XenSource only?

gplhost
07-25-2009, 07:58 AM
I never tried XenServer, as I think there is no point in using such product for commercial VPS hosting. However, I don't see why it wouldn't work with it.

Thomas

w4Net
07-26-2009, 07:33 AM
Have a read on the LxLabs forums, HyperVM has gone open source and they have secured the new developers for the software. Nearly everything has been moved to the new servers.

Here some reading:

http://forum.lxcenter.org/index.php?t=msg&th=12734&start=0&

http://forum.lxcenter.org/index.php?t=msg&th=12655&start=0&

Might be worth trying HyperVM again in a few weeks :)

keywolf
07-26-2009, 07:37 AM
I was reading this earlier, looks interesting, its an interesting time now with new panels being released and HyperVM going into renewed development.

viviotech
07-26-2009, 03:16 PM
Free VPS, currently listed under free control panels, is more of a Virtuozzo/OpenVZ competitor then it is a control panel. It is no longer being developed. It was purchased (along with H-Sphere and CP+) by Parallels (makers of Virtuozzo and Plesk) and subsequently discontinued.

hichkas
07-27-2009, 01:19 PM
http://lxcenter.org/
and lxlabs
are down...

gplhost
07-27-2009, 04:50 PM
Have a read on the LxLabs forums, HyperVM has gone open source and they have secured the new developers for the software. Nearly everything has been moved to the new servers.

Here some reading:

http://forum.lxcenter.org/index.php?t=msg&th=12734&start=0&

http://forum.lxcenter.org/index.php?t=msg&th=12655&start=0&

Might be worth trying HyperVM again in a few weeks :)

WHY isn't there is absolutely NO UPDATE to the lxlabs.com front page about any of this, or about the past issues? They don't advertise at all about anything... Not very serious.

On this forum, I could read:

Update:

5 applications received so far.

End of the week/weekend i review all applications and choose 3-4 people.

Do you call this an open source development? I call it tyranny. A real open source solution should be open to contributions from anyone, and a repository (by order of preference: Git, Mercurial, SVN, CVS) should be setup and publicly accessible. Otherwise, contributors get mad, and it ends up like VHCS.

Thomas

BoggeRs
07-28-2009, 08:00 AM
So do you guys still use HyperVM since everyone is so set on moving away.... I do not think there is anywhere to go right now :(

reebock
07-28-2009, 11:43 AM
Look at vePortal (http://www.veportal.com/). Until 7/31 its $5.00 a month. What a great feature set for only being at 1.4 and 1.5 coming out soon.

So far no problems with it and the developers are squashing any bugs that might come up very quickly. For such a small investment I decided to go 1 year lease.

BoggeRs
07-28-2009, 08:44 PM
Look at vePortal (http://www.veportal.com/). Until 7/31 its $5.00 a month. What a great feature set for only being at 1.4 and 1.5 coming out soon.

So far no problems with it and the developers are squashing any bugs that might come up very quickly. For such a small investment I decided to go 1 year lease.


Funny you mention that I signed for that up today to try it out what the heck its 5 bucks..... you cannot disable backups, you cannot start a vps container after creating it, and the welcome email is just busted..... Sorry but that's not stable.

[x10]Corey
07-29-2009, 01:22 AM
Look at vePortal (http://www.veportal.com/). Until 7/31 its $5.00 a month. What a great feature set for only being at 1.4 and 1.5 coming out soon.

So far no problems with it and the developers are squashing any bugs that might come up very quickly. For such a small investment I decided to go 1 year lease.

I can confirm that there are tons of bugs with this panel and the communication from the developers has severely diminished since releasing their 1.4 version. View their bug forum to see the features that are currently not working.

Adrian Andreias
07-29-2009, 03:36 AM
Hypanel. A virtualization control panel that we have developed in-house and we use it for IntoVPS.

But it's not available on the market, just with our service :D.

BoggeRs
07-29-2009, 08:04 AM
Hypanel. A virtualization control panel that we have developed in-house and we use it for IntoVPS.

But it's not available on the market, just with our service :D.

So then why would you even post in this forum other then to signature spam?

reebock
07-29-2009, 08:07 AM
Its too bad your having problems with vePortal they addressed many bugs today with the 1.4c upgrade.

The only bugs I ever had with VPs not starting ended up being problems with my own configuration which was confirmed with GLOW the developer.

Anyway since they have only being working on it for a couple of months not a couple of years like HyperVM etc.. they continually pour tons of work into it. Of course they are going to have some bugs since they are in the infancy of their product.

Im going to stick with them mostly because their update schedule is very fast.

Im hoping they stick around for the long haul.

BoggeRs
07-29-2009, 08:21 AM
@reebock.... do you work for veportal.....

How can you say your vePortal works good I cannot even start a container with the following errors (and yes I have the newest version)

# vzctl start 2000
UB parameter kmemsize not set
UB parameter lockedpages not set
UB parameter shmpages not set
UB parameter numproc not set
UB parameter physpages not set
UB parameter numtcpsock not set
UB parameter numflock not set
UB parameter numpty not set
UB parameter numsiginfo not set
UB parameter tcpsndbuf not set
UB parameter tcprcvbuf not set
UB parameter othersockbuf not set
UB parameter dgramrcvbuf not set
UB parameter numothersock not set
UB parameter numfile not set
UB parameter dcachesize not set
UB parameter numiptent not set

The funny thing is it costs money this should be free since we are doing the testing for him and his team if you ask me.... I am a programmer by profession IF I released something like this I would be FIRED! so it depends who you ask.

w4Net
07-29-2009, 08:35 AM
What about FluidVM what do you think, for those that have used it or are using it?

reebock
07-29-2009, 08:40 AM
I do not work for vePortal. Did you not upgrade to 1.4c yet??

Funny thing is Im a complete noobie at setting up servers and linux and VPS's etc..

Im not saying I didnt have a weeks worth of aggrevation starting from scratch but I stuck with it after I had several emails back and forth with the developer I found out what .conf files and kernel problems were causing my VP's not to start or even be created.

Seriously though it sounds like a configuration problem not a vePortal problem. I would submit send a ticket to GLOW so he can sort it out.

Good luck

w4Net
07-29-2009, 08:59 AM
I think we should give HyperVM another go in a few weeks, its now open source and developers are working on it now to re-code it what has been stuffed up so.. why not? well i will be trying it out again anyway.

hertzwebsolutions
07-29-2009, 09:02 AM
I think we should give HyperVM another go in a few weeks, its now open source and developers are working on it now to re-code it what has been stuffed up so.. why not? well i will be trying it out again anyway.

I don't think consumer confidence in HyperVM & LXLabs products will be restored any time in the foreseeable future, mostly people are hearing hypervm and running a mile... It's a shame as it was a very handy piece of software.

VW-Donna
07-29-2009, 09:13 AM
@reebock.... do you work for veportal.....

How can you say your vePortal works good I cannot even start a container with the following errors (and yes I have the newest version)

# vzctl start 2000
UB parameter kmemsize not set
UB parameter lockedpages not set
UB parameter shmpages not set
UB parameter numproc not set
UB parameter physpages not set
UB parameter numtcpsock not set
UB parameter numflock not set
UB parameter numpty not set
UB parameter numsiginfo not set
UB parameter tcpsndbuf not set
UB parameter tcprcvbuf not set
UB parameter othersockbuf not set
UB parameter dgramrcvbuf not set
UB parameter numothersock not set
UB parameter numfile not set
UB parameter dcachesize not set
UB parameter numiptent not set

The funny thing is it costs money this should be free since we are doing the testing for him and his team if you ask me.... I am a programmer by profession IF I released something like this I would be FIRED! so it depends who you ask.

Hi BoggeeRs
I can confirm that the bug fix release was made today with an almost instant upgrade, Information is on the site, The company is coming on leaps and bounds we have just hired another developer to our team and we are in the descision making stages on a second.

The latest release is very stable and fully tested in comparison to earlier released of the system.

The system was fully tested on our internal systems, Which were limited at the time of development, Veportal v1.4c has been fully tested and confirmed working on CentOS 5.2/5.3 32 & 64Bit Operating systems.

I appologise for the inconvenience the panel caused to some people and hope you are willing to give vePortal another chance.

thansnet
07-29-2009, 10:06 AM
http://lxcenter.org/
and lxlabs
are down...

lxlabs chenge their name to lxcenter
their new web page is lxcenter.org (http://newurl.in/lx)
HyperVM goes Opensource

hertzwebsolutions
07-29-2009, 10:14 AM
HyperVM goes Opensource

Eventually...

Adrian Andreias
07-30-2009, 08:56 AM
So then why would you even post in this forum other then to signature spam?

I was just showing off :D.
Seriously, we'll probably make it available in the following months as a software product.

And can you chill out with your accusations?

Devpond
07-30-2009, 01:45 PM
Another alternative is Xen based VSControl which was launched on July 20th.

Hostlatte
08-10-2009, 08:02 PM
Veportal is a cheap affordable alternative around 6-8 dollars a month.

amnesia623
08-13-2009, 10:34 AM
well, I just wanted to say that I appreciate this thread. Good to know other alternatives especially with the security flaws in *some* CPs