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View Full Version : The Truth Behind AdvantaHost/v3Host - Clarification
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 08:09 PM Hello WHT,
I've been reading through a few posts here on WHT and there were a lot of accusations and misunderstandings going around. Please allow me to tell you whole truth and nothing but the truth. Take the time to read this, it will be helpful. If you have any questions, please do ask after reading through. I am not a person that lies, you can be sure of it.
Let's start at the beginning, shall we...
As you may know, I was hired by Tim to be a designer for Paradise Designs in
August 2002. I made him designs, things went okay. Sure, there were a few arguments here and there, but it was all cool...
Come September 2002, Tim offered me a reseller account. I took him up on the offer. I designed myself a site, got a domain name, and got started. There was the start of AdvantaHost. Things were going ok, but then I decided I need more room to grow. I took it upon myself to move elsewhere with more space and bandwidth. About a month passed, AdvantaHost was doing quite well. We had satisfied customers and great services. This was about the time there were some posts circulating about me
and AdvantaHost. Rumours saying I had sold AdvantaHost to Tim, which I denied. This was completely the truth.
A couple weeks after the company grew more, I could not handle support alone, so I seeked a good tech. There came Tim. I paid him to be a support tech and nothing more. To my understanding, he was doing quite well with support. A week thereafter, I just could not handle AdvantaHost anymore. It was growing at a large pace and I could not keep up. I decided with my father, the official owner of the company, to give it to someone who was reliable and could keep the company as it was.
This was the time that atr called. The company was under new management just before the call and the whois was not changed yet. So he called my father. We told him that the company was under new management and quickly gave him his refund even though the company was not in our name anymore.
The company was now under new management. However, I was still working under sales. This is why I had a sales link in my signature.
About a week or so later, we received a letter from Advanta Corp., http://www.advanta.com. It seemed that they were very serious about us using the name AdvantaHost. We did not know of Advanta Corp. when the company was orginally started by me. We were forced under legal action to hand over
http://www.advantahost.com to Advanta Corp. Hence the whois shows up as that. We needed a new name quick so our customers sites would not go down. The new owner decided to go with v3Host. So AdvantaHost was changed to v3Host. He had decided to not let the public know just yet (though the customers were fully aware of the situation). There is the explanation of v3Host and AdvantaHost. As you can see, the reason the company changed names is quite justified.
AdvantaHost/v3Host has not had any bad history. Sure, there have a been a small number of negative comments, but surely not something that would make us change names... It happens to all companies. I can assure you that v3Host is doing better than ever before.
Although I no longer work for v3Host, I do keep a look on how the company is doing often. The new owner is planning on newer advanced support with 24/7 phone support and new techs (not Timmy!). We (PixelAxis) are working on their new site in which everything will be made public.
The facts are straight. v3Host was AdvantaHost and the reason for a change in company name is completely justified. v3Host is under new management. I cannot announce who the new owner of v3Host is just yet, but I can assure everyone that it is NOT Tim. I repeat, it is not Tim.
The reason why v3host is like that is a silly prank, nothing more, nothing less. As I said, Tim does not own what that page says. I cannot verify who was up to it or why it was done just yet.
Hopefully that clears everything up. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. I have answers for everything, so you can be sure this is all for real.
And before anyone says anything, I am not Tim either. Anyone who has dealt with me in the past knows I am an honest person and do legitimate work.
Thanks everyone for your time and cooperation.
SoftWareRevue 11-05-2002, 08:13 PM Clears up absolutely nothing, for me.
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 08:15 PM Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
Clears up absolutely nothing, for me.
What else needs to be cleared up? Ask and I will tell.
Akash 11-05-2002, 08:17 PM Who owns v3host?
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 08:18 PM Originally posted by akash
Who owns v3host?
Will be announced when the new design comes up, in a few days. All you need to know for now is that it's not Tim ;)
Chachi 11-05-2002, 08:18 PM From my perspective, it does give R K Raja's point of view. I feel compelled to believe him because of past dealings, I've got a gist of his character, and his post seems to stick with me as being truthful even though there isn't proof for some of his statements.
Chachi 11-05-2002, 08:19 PM Why can't you tell right now?
(who the new owner is)?
Techark 11-05-2002, 08:19 PM Well if the new owner really is not Tim the why does he leave that page up?
If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, chances are it is a duck.
IGobyTerry 11-05-2002, 08:21 PM Maybe it's Tim's Uncle.
Chachi 11-05-2002, 08:21 PM Maybe this will answer your questions Monte:
Although I no longer work for v3Host, I do keep a look on how the company is doing often. The new owner is planning on newer advanced support with ...
The reason why http://www.v3host.com is like that is a silly prank, nothing more, nothing less. As I said, Tim does not own what that page says.
I cannot verify who was up to it or why it was done just yet.
UmBillyCord 11-05-2002, 08:21 PM Originally posted by R. K. Raja
Will be announced when the new design comes up, in a few days. All you need to know for now is that it's not Tim ;)
We know. Because "Timmy" does. :)
SoftWareRevue 11-05-2002, 08:25 PM Originally posted by R. K. Raja
What else needs to be cleared up? Ask and I will tell. Who owns v3host.
It makes no sense that it needs to be kept secret. That lends no credibility to your statement.
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 08:25 PM Heh, I am not going to post. If you want to believe Timmy owns it, go ahead.
I'm not going to repeat myself, I have better things to do. I've explained things as well as I can, that is all.
If you have something to say with backing and not just a stupid post like the one above me, please do post, PM, or email me and I will be happy to answer.
Thank you and good night.
TemplateGuy 11-05-2002, 08:26 PM I am sorry to bust in... but all I can see that is wrong with tim at WHT is that he went sour in 1 or 2 deals...
So maybe he turned over a new leaf with his new hosting company...
In regards with the thread is Tim anywhere on the managment of V3host?
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 08:26 PM You can wait.
Chachi 11-05-2002, 08:26 PM RK, can you tell at least why you won't reveal the name?
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 08:26 PM Originally posted by TemplateGuy
[BIn regards with the thread is Tim anywhere on the managment of V3host? [/B]
No
Akash 11-05-2002, 08:27 PM RK: let your client know that I've emailed RegisterFly about your client's violation of RegisterFly's TOS. Have your client read their TOS, specifically Section 7. RegisterFly has a right to terminate the agreement if the WHOIS information is not updated.
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 08:28 PM Originally posted by Fazel3
RK, can you tell at least why you won't reveal the name?
They want to keep everything in order. When the new design is released, there will be a press release and such.
I am just speaking so you people won't accuse me of anything like in the past. It is not my responsibility to even answer your questions, I am just trying to keep everyone informed.
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 08:29 PM Originally posted by akash
RK: let your client know that I've emailed RegisterFly about your client's violation of RegisterFly's TOS. Have your client read their TOS, specifically Section 7. RegisterFly has a right to terminate the agreement if the WHOIS information is not updated.
The call was withing MINUTES of the agreement. It was changed immediately.
Techark 11-05-2002, 08:30 PM Originally posted by Fazel3
Maybe this will answer your questions Monte:
No that does not answer my question at all, to me it reads someone pulled a silly prank. If it is not the owner pulling a prank on himself. Which I cannot imagine why he would want even for a second to be associatied with Tim, why would he leave it up?
This post sounds allot like the Travis buying Earhost to save the world thread.
Akash 11-05-2002, 08:32 PM Originally posted by R. K. Raja
The call was withing MINUTES of the agreement. It was changed immediately.
The CURRENT information for v3host.com and v3dns.com is in violation of RegisterFly's TOS.
Chachi 11-05-2002, 08:33 PM Well, I actually spoke to Tim earlier on today. I showed him the previous thread and the conversation pretty much spoke for itself, he didnt seem to know what was going on and started to defend himself.
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 08:33 PM Originally posted by Monte
No that does not answer my question at all, to me it reads someone pulled a silly prank. If it is not the owner pulling a prank on himself. Which I cannot imagine why he would want even for a second to be associatied with Tim, why would he leave it up?
This post sounds allot like the Travis buying Earhost to save the world thread.
Ok, I guess I have to elaborate on this now.
Since I am/was doing the new design for v3Host, I did have FTP access. My cousin uploaded a new page thinking it was funny.
I was trying to cover up for him, but now you know. He is not on these boards, so don't even accuse anyone.
He also changed the password so I could not get back in. Recently has the owner of v3Host changed it back and is trying to restore things back.
:)
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 08:34 PM Originally posted by akash
The CURRENT information for v3host.com and v3dns.com is in violation of RegisterFly's TOS.
Why? You are certainly saving the world by reporting things to RegisterFly aren't you? :D
Akash 11-05-2002, 08:35 PM Originally posted by R. K. Raja
Ok, I guess I have to elaborate on this now.
Since I am/was doing the new design for v3Host, I did have FTP access. My cousin uploaded a new page thinking it was funny.
I was trying to cover up for him, but now you know. He is not on these boards, so don't even accuse anyone.
He also changed the password so I could not get back in. Recently has the owner of v3Host changed it back and is trying to restore things back.
:)
Typical excuse....I still wonder why Timmy is banned and RK isn't????
Originally posted by R. K. Raja
Why? You are certainly saving the world by reporting things to RegisterFly aren't you? :D
I reported it 1) because I can and 2) because your client is in violation of a rule - if you saw someone going 80 mph down a residential street, wouldn't you report it (unless of course you were the driver's husband)...
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 08:36 PM Originally posted by akash
Typical excuse....I still wonder why Timmy is banned and RK isn't????
If there is a valid reason to ban me, go ahead...
SoftWareRevue 11-05-2002, 08:37 PM Originally posted by R. K. Raja
Heh, I am not going to post. If you want to believe Timmy owns it, go ahead.
I'm not going to repeat myself, I have better things to do. I've explained things as well as I can, that is all.
If you have something to say with backing and not just a stupid post like the one above me, please do post, PM, or email me and I will be happy to answer.
Thank you and good night. And you expect us to believe you.
Go play with yur toys now.
Bye.
Aussie Bob 11-05-2002, 08:41 PM Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
And you expect us to believe you.
Go play with yur toys now.
Bye.
Dennis, make the bad little people go away....:bawling:
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He's not broken this rule
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who doesn't use this forum for commercial gain?
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not done that either so far
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he didn't break this one either
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has he broken this rule? Doesn't look like it
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neither of these rules have been broken
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his sig is ok, but Monte, just checked, and yours isn't! :blush: :blush:
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he was questioned about his previous company and he responded with answers for those questions - again no breaking of the rule.
So why ban him?
Andrew 11-05-2002, 08:42 PM For the love of God, I went out for one lousy hour and come back to THIS?? Can't leave you people alone for a second...lol
Akash 11-05-2002, 08:43 PM Originally posted by R. K. Raja
If there is a valid reason to ban me, go ahead...
If i remember correctly, timmy was banned because he didn't pay up when he owed some people money (which is fraud)...
Until the customer in this thread (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85654&perpage=15&pagenumber=1) confirms a refund of your quoted 200%, you should be banned for the same reason...why wait until you owe 10 people money?
Originally posted by R. K. Raja
I am going to clear things up, expect a post in a few hours or maybe sooner.
Nevets, I don't know what went on, but if you really need the $5.99, I will pay it personally by 200% for all of your troubles...
Aussie Bob 11-05-2002, 08:43 PM Originally posted by lightnin
For the love of God, I went out for one lousy hour and come back to THIS?? Can't leave you people alone for a second...lol
Better than any soap on TV mate. :D:agree:
coight 11-05-2002, 08:44 PM Originally posted by R. K. Raja
Why? You are certainly saving the world by reporting things to RegisterFly aren't you? :D
And good on him, do you allow customers to store warez files? No so the same is expected, if you provide false whois information, expect to loose the domain.
Andrew 11-05-2002, 08:44 PM Originally posted by Aussie Bob
Better than any soap on TV mate. :D:agree:
Gotta agree there :D
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 08:44 PM Originally posted by akash
If i remember correctly, timmy was banned because he didn't pay up when he owed some people money (which is fraud)...
Until the customer in this thread (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85654&perpage=15&pagenumber=1) confirms a refund of your quoted 200%, you should be banned for the same reason...why wait until you owe 10 people money?
I was not aware of this situation. I was not owning the company when this person had trouble with support and such. I stumbled upon this thread and I was willing to pay this guy even though it was not my responsibility.
Please...
Techark 11-05-2002, 08:45 PM Originally posted by R. K. Raja
Ok, I guess I have to elaborate on this now.
Since I am/was doing the new design for v3Host, I did have FTP access. My cousin uploaded a new page thinking it was funny.
I was trying to cover up for him, but now you know. He is not on these boards, so don't even accuse anyone.
He also changed the password so I could not get back in. Recently has the owner of v3Host changed it back and is trying to restore things back.
:)
It still walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and now it even looks like a duck.
I think it is a duck.
:D
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 08:46 PM Go ahead and amuse yourselves...
Aussie Bob 11-05-2002, 08:47 PM Originally posted by Monte
It still walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and now it even looks like a duck.
I think it is a duck.
:D
Now Monte, [quack] I think [quack] you're being [quack] totally unreasonable [quack] about this [quack] one [quack] mate. :D
Akash 11-05-2002, 08:48 PM I just thought of another question....why does your cousin have the password to v3host.com??? and please clarify who has contorl of the password right now?
Chachi 11-05-2002, 08:50 PM Is the new owner of v3host on these boards? Are they online? Can you ask them to forget their whole secrecy pact, and maybe clear once and for all who owns v3host and satisfy us wolves, baying for your blood :)
Jim_UK 11-05-2002, 08:50 PM Seeing as you are inviting questions R. K. Raja I'd like to ask one on behalf of faculty (after reading his thread):
You are connected with Racksold. What is you exact association with them?
Who actually owns Racksold (name, address, phone)?
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 08:53 PM Originally posted by akash
I just thought of another question....why does your cousin have the password to v3host.com??? and please clarify who has contorl of the password right now?
It is saved on my computer, which only I use. I stepped away to get a drink and didn't notice he did it until the next day.
The owner is in control of the password, and I also do because I am designing the site, but I am certainly keeping it much more secure now.
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 08:54 PM Originally posted by Fazel3
Is the new owner of v3host on these boards? Are they online? Can you ask them to forget their whole secrecy pact, and maybe clear once and for all who owns v3host and satisfy us wolves, baying for your blood :)
No, they are not on the boards. And you guys can wait ;)
I have no reason to believe that any part of RK's post is inaccurate--it matches up with the communications I had with him and Tim. So perhaps the worst thing about RK Raja is his choice of tech support for Advantahost.
I agree that it's awfully peculiar to hide the management/ownership of V3host.
I also know that from a business point of view, I would rather find a new horse than try to ride the one that bucked me last time.
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 08:56 PM Originally posted by Jim_UK
Seeing as you are inviting questions R. K. Raja I'd like to ask one on behalf of faculty (after reading his thread):
You are connected with Racksold. What is you exact association with them?
Who actually owns Racksold (name, address, phone)?
I was connected with them shortly, as I also did/am doing their site design.
I was invited to do sales, which I did add in my sig, but didn't feel it was in my best interest to keep up.
I do not have any connection with them anymore. I do not have their name, address, or phone number, unfortuneatly.
Maybe I can ask them to start posting to clear up that whole story :)
TemplateGuy 11-05-2002, 08:57 PM Ok we've established the new owner cannot be named... I am sorry but I see no justice in this untill the design is released with the owner... IMO
Akash 11-05-2002, 08:57 PM Originally posted by R. K. Raja
It is saved on my computer, which only I use. I stepped away to get a drink and didn't notice he did it until the next day.
The owner is in control of the password, and I also do because I am designing the site, but I am certainly keeping it much more secure now.
wouldn't the owner want to get rid of the Tim Petty information??
Also, FYI, now http://v3host.com redirects to a 404 and on the short redirect page it says Advanta Host in the title bar :)
SoftWareRevue 11-05-2002, 08:58 PM Originally posted by Monte
It still walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and now it even looks like a duck.
I think it is a duck.
:D Duck season!
Raja season!
Duck season!
Raja season!
Duck season!
Duck season!
Raja season! Fire!!
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 08:58 PM Originally posted by TemplateGuy
Ok we've established the new owner cannot be named... I am sorry but I see no justice in this untill the design is released with the owner... IMO
Yes, things will be fully clear in a few days.
The only reason of this post is to clearly explain my connection with all of this and to inform people of what is going on with v3Host.
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:00 PM Originally posted by akash
wouldn't the owner want to get rid of the Tim Petty information??
Also, FYI, now http://v3host.com redirects to a 404 and on the short redirect page it says Advanta Host in the title bar :)
He just restored the password (he is the only one with root so I could not restore it personally) and I believe he is getting the backup ready to restore.
This is what I believe is happening, but I may be wrong.
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:00 PM Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
Duck season!
Raja season!
Duck season!
Raja season!
Duck season!
Duck season!
Raja season! Fire!!
:confused: :eek:
Perhaps you need some help...
Chachi 11-05-2002, 09:09 PM we all need help
:D
Techark 11-05-2002, 09:09 PM The new owner must be reading this thread.
The Tim info is gone now.
Amazing how that page stayed up for days and in 20 minutes of this thread starting it was taken down, but the new owner cannot be named and does not care to post here and clear it all up.
Aussie Bob 11-05-2002, 09:13 PM Originally posted by Monte
The new owner must be reading this thread.
The Tim info is gone now.
Amazing how that page stayed up for days and in 20 minutes of this thread starting it was taken down, but the new owner cannot be named and does not care to post here and clear it all up.
And so continues the daily dramas that is - "Days of our hosting" :eek: :D
coight 11-05-2002, 09:17 PM All this talk of Duck has made me hungry...
Now wouldn't it be fun to play duck duck goose :D
SoftWareRevue 11-05-2002, 09:18 PM Originally posted by R. K. Raja
Yes, things will be fully clear in a few days.
The only reason of this post is to clearly explain my connection with all of this and to inform people of what is going on with v3Host. And the only reason for this thread, according to the title, is for you to post "The Truth Behind AdvantaHost/v3Host - Clarification"
You have failed.
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:19 PM Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
And the only reason for this thread, according to the title, is for you to post "The Truth Behind AdvantaHost/v3Host - Clarification"
You have failed.
Thanks
Chachi 11-05-2002, 09:20 PM Well, I did recommend to him the title - "confessions of a web designer" :D
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:21 PM Originally posted by Fazel3
Well, I did recommend to him the title - "confessions of a web designer" :D
Except I had nothing to confess, just clear up some misundertstandings, which I think I have done quite well :)
coight 11-05-2002, 09:22 PM Originally posted by R. K. Raja
Except I had nothing to confess, just clear up some misundertstandings, which I think I have done quite well :)
Not really :D
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:24 PM Maybe this thread should be closed now...
I said what I wanted to say
TemplateGuy 11-05-2002, 09:24 PM Damnit.. would someone please explain to me why the heck tim is so bad?
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:25 PM Originally posted by TemplateGuy
Damnit.. would someone please explain to me why the heck tim is so bad?
Some people had bad experiences with him. The other couple thousand just like to jump on the bandwagon ;)
coight 11-05-2002, 09:27 PM Originally posted by TemplateGuy
Damnit.. would someone please explain to me why the heck tim is so bad?
Don't be lazy use the search function :mad:
Incognito 11-05-2002, 09:27 PM this thread should be closed now
Famous words.
I get so tired of these children. And I am not simply making a reference to age, so no offense to those of you who are young and demonstrate maturity.
Raja...your past is so tied to Timmah....and just as your previous posts have lacked credibility, this one does also. Whether it's you, Timmah, James, Travis, or whomever in this network of trouble, I will run as far away as possible.
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:29 PM Originally posted by Incognito
Raja...your past is so tied to Timmah....and just as your previous posts have lacked credibility, this one does also. Whether it's you, Timmah, James, Travis, or whomever in this network of trouble, I will run as far away as possible.
Hmmm... may I ask why you are here if you want to run as far away as possible?
So what if I have dealt with Tim? Your claims are just stupid. I have not done a single thing wrong.
smidwap 11-05-2002, 09:30 PM Wouldn't it be "okay" if we all just wait the few days mentioned by Raja for the company to be launched, then to make our arguements? I can see all of your view points, but I just think it would be easy enough to come back to this thread when we have SOLID proof that Tim does not have any connections to v3host.
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:30 PM Originally posted by Myacen
Not really :D
:(
Didn't you go to PixelGenie for a design request a few months ago?
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:32 PM Originally posted by smidwap
Wouldn't it be "okay" if we all just wait the few days mentioned by Raja for the company to be launched, then to make our arguements. I can see all of your view points, but I just think it would be easy enough to come back to this thread when we have SOLID proof that Tim does not have any connections to v3host.
Finally, someone that has some sense. Thank god you haven't been struck with the WHT curse yet :)
coight 11-05-2002, 09:36 PM Originally posted by R. K. Raja
:(
Didn't you go to PixelGenie for a design request a few months ago?
No you, I had no idea you were part of Pixelgenie. However things didn't seem right around that time and we have found another designer.
The fact that the last 6 designs you have done are virtually the same has swayed us away also.
Akash 11-05-2002, 09:37 PM I have no problem with waiting a few days..the only problem i have right now with v3host is that it's whois information is hidden...
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:37 PM Originally posted by Myacen
No you, I had no idea you were part of Pixelgenie. However things didn't seem right around that time and we have found another designer.
The fact that the last 6 designs you have done are virtually the same has swayed us away also.
Yes, I was in August.
Thanks for the comment on my designs, last time I checked they are selling like hot cakes :)
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:38 PM Originally posted by akash
I have no problem with waiting a few days..the only problem i have right now with v3host is that it's whois information is hidden...
Maybe that will be released when the name is released?
TemplateGuy 11-05-2002, 09:38 PM Originally posted by Myacen
Don't be lazy use the search function :mad:
I did!... All I see is where he went sour in an odd amount of deals.. and people at WHT making big deals of others who made the mistake of working with him...
Chachi 11-05-2002, 09:39 PM Akash,
It's not your problem, You're not a v3host client, and you're not the registrar involved. It's a problem on the shoulders of the new owners of v3host, and it's a problem for their domain registrars. The conclusion to this is we should wait until the new owner is revealed, and until then, to refrain from casting stones.
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:40 PM Originally posted by TemplateGuy
I did!... All I see is where he went sour in an odd amount of deals.. and people at WHT making big deals of others who made the mistake of working with him...
That is what WHT is all about, accusing people for their own amusement :)
Akash 11-05-2002, 09:40 PM Originally posted by R. K. Raja
Maybe that will be released when the name is released?
maybe...but if its registered with RegisterFly it's supposed to be available at the time of registration...
smidwap 11-05-2002, 09:40 PM Originally posted by TemplateGuy
I did!... All I see is where he went sour in an odd amount of deals.. and people at WHT making big deals of others who made the mistake of working with him...
There, ya got it!
ChickenSteak 11-05-2002, 09:40 PM Woah this went by fast, I stepped out the door for an hour to go buy some grocery's and its this big!:D
Looks like I have some reading to do ;).
The Prohacker 11-05-2002, 09:42 PM Originally posted by R. K. Raja
Maybe this thread should be closed now...
I said what I wanted to say
Spoken like a true Timmah :D
Originally posted by R. K. Raja
Maybe that will be released when the name is released?
Maybe it has to be released when the domain was registered, ICANN policy :D You don't just list info when you want to, there are rules to this.. :D
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:42 PM Originally posted by ChickenSteak
Woah this went by fast, I stepped out the door for an hour to go buy some grocery's and its this big!:D
Looks like I have some reading to do ;).
Not really, just some useless garbage about ducks and whois info.
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:44 PM Originally posted by The Prohacker
Spoken like a true Timmah :D
I've lost all respect of you I had in the first place...
Originally posted by The Prohacker
Maybe it has to be released when the domain was registered, ICANN policy :D You don't just list info when you want to, there are rules to this.. :D
Who knows...
It's not my problem anymore.
Goodbye, I won't be posting until later...
Akash 11-05-2002, 09:45 PM Originally posted by Fazel3
Akash,
It's not your problem, You're not a v3host client, and you're not the registrar involved. It's a problem on the shoulders of the new owners of v3host, and it's a problem for their domain registrars. The conclusion to this is we should wait until the new owner is revealed, and until then, to refrain from casting stones.
I posted something similar in one of timmy's threads...
if a host is going to be a good, trustworthy host, why not start right from the beginning? because of the many failed, dishonest hosts, our consumer base has lost confidence in all hosts. because of that, I've gotten sales inquiries such as "how do i know you wont take my money and run?" i shouldn't have to answer those types of questions, and it is the dishonest hosts that are ruining it for all of us (consumers and hosts included)
I'd also like to add that my comments about the WHOIS are directed at the true owner of v3host, whoever that may be, NOT RK Raja...I do have to commend him for trying to be honest and clear things up...:beer:
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:47 PM Originally posted by akash
I posted something similar in one of timmy's threads...
if a host is going to be a good, trustworthy host, why not start right from the beginning? because of the many failed, dishonest hosts, our consumer base has lost confidence in all hosts. because of that, I've gotten sales inquiries such as "how do i know you wont take my money and run?" i shouldn't have to answer those types of questions, and it is the dishonest hosts that are ruining it for all of us (consumers and hosts included)
I just HAVE to add this. You are the only one concerned about the whois info. I am quite sure that they won't lose customers because they didn't update their whois :rolleyes:
smidwap 11-05-2002, 09:48 PM Originally posted by R. K. Raja
I just HAVE to add this. You are the only one concerned about the whois info. I am quite sure that they won't lose customers because they didn't update their whois :rolleyes:
Well, a few people who might like their prices might see this thread while doing a search and see that there has been a some-what disputed past for v3host, and they may not want to risk anything with v3host. Just a possible scenario. ;)
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:48 PM Originally posted by akash
I'd also like to add that my comments about the WHOIS are directed at the true owner of v3host, whoever that may be, NOT RK Raja...I do have to commend him for trying to be honest and clear things up...:beer:[/COLOR]
Yay :)
I feel like I am responsible when in fact I am not. I think I will step away now and let the owner handle this whatever way he wants.
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:49 PM Originally posted by smidwap
Well, a few people who might like their prices might see this thread while doing a search and see that there has been a some-what disputed past for v3host, and they may not want to risk anything with v3host. Just a possible scenario. ;)
Yes but is that really scamming them?
Chachi 11-05-2002, 09:49 PM it's unfortunate Akash, but it's to be expected in any industry, not just this one. You can't take out all your frustrations out on RK, for all you know he might be telling the truth.
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:52 PM Originally posted by Fazel3
it's unfortunate Akash, but it's to be expected in any industry, not just this one. You can't take out all your frustrations out on RK, for all you know he might be telling the truth.
Change that to is :D
smidwap 11-05-2002, 09:53 PM Originally posted by R. K. Raja
Yes but is that really scamming them?
No, but you never know how someone else might look at this. :o
ChickenSteak 11-05-2002, 09:53 PM God everyone post in 5 minute intervals or this discussion will turn into something bigger then the biggest Timmah thread. Whelp I just got done reading all 6 pages so far, and I have nothing really to say :).
Chachi 11-05-2002, 09:53 PM :)
TemplateGuy 11-05-2002, 09:54 PM Exactly.. it seems were just trying to raise our post counts...:stickout:
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:54 PM Yes, this thread is about to come to rest since there is not much else to argue...
Akash 11-05-2002, 09:55 PM You can't take out all your frustrations out on RK, for all you know he might be telling the truth.
I'm not...
I'd also like to add that my comments about the WHOIS are directed at the true owner of v3host, whoever that may be, NOT RK Raja...I do have to commend him for trying to be honest and clear things up...
I just HAVE to add this. You are the only one concerned about the whois info. I am quite sure that they won't lose customers because they didn't update their whois
Yep, because I like to have everyone playing by the rules. Actually, it would be beneficial to v3host to have their correct information displayed. some customers may use that as contact information (as was proved in another, unrelated thread about another company)
When I was a customer, that is the first thing I looked at (of course, this was after I'd been burned twice already :rolleyes:)
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 09:55 PM Originally posted by TemplateGuy
Exactly.. it seems were just trying to raise our post counts...:stickout:
:o
I reached over 800 :D
TemplateGuy 11-05-2002, 09:56 PM Well before it gets locked... maybe i can get 1 or 2 in here. :rolleyes:
Chachi 11-05-2002, 09:57 PM Akash, you made edits to your existing post at the same time as when I was writing my reply, I didn't catch that edit.
Chachi 11-05-2002, 09:58 PM Template Guy - Don't! The thread has seen some home truths exposed, don't spoilt it with a few crazy posts
Pucca 11-05-2002, 10:34 PM . Sorry misread.
PixelAxis 11-05-2002, 10:56 PM Originally posted by Pucca
Birds of a feather, flock together.
If you're so intent on proving yourself as clean and innocent, why are you still associating yourself with Tim? If he has such a poor reputation, wouldn't it be easier to move on by yourself?
From what I've seen, it seems that Tim's company have all followed suit.
I don't think you even understand what is going on here...
Derek 11-05-2002, 11:24 PM Tim is NOT the same person as Raja. Raja is atleast a little honest from past experience.
Raja, contact me on AIM.
2Grumpy 11-05-2002, 11:55 PM Originally posted by R. K. Raja
Ok, I guess I have to elaborate on this now.
Since I am/was doing the new design for v3Host, I did have FTP access. My cousin uploaded a new page thinking it was funny.
I was trying to cover up for him, but now you know. He is not on these boards, so don't even accuse anyone.
He also changed the password so I could not get back in. Recently has the owner of v3Host changed it back and is trying to restore things back.
:)
I was halfway buying what you said up to this point and just figured that the new owner didn't want to unveil anything on who owns until a "launch" in a bit, no biggie there.
But then I read this and was like "crap another kid playing games" and now your credibility is shot all to heck (just my opinion here).
TemplateGuy 11-06-2002, 12:14 AM I don't know if it really even matters.. I think the point of this whole thread was to prove Tim was not near this company...
Chicken 11-06-2002, 12:36 AM I think the thread has reached the limit of usefulness (not that I particularly found it all that useful but...). The new owner can post in the appropriate forum if they want to. Though we don't have an announcement forum, so I'm nto sure where that would be. If it is in this forum, then the URL will most likely be *****'ed so it won't matter...
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