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faculty
11-05-2002, 04:51 AM
Ok.. When I was speaking to "RackSolid" over AIM, I had asked him if he had any sort of relation to "Tim".. I made sure he knew who I was talking about, and he told me he had nothing to do with the guy.

Anyhow.. I placed an order for a dedicated Server thru them.. I had waited for the day I was promissed it would be here.. but it wasn't.. then was promised another date, waited till then and nope.. promised again, then no.. so I then asked for a refund on both startup and monthly charges. Here is the convo I had with him.

RackSolid and blws anth (http://brightlightwebsites.com/racksolid.htm)

I have not recieved the refunds and this was a few days ago (Around 3 now).

A) What should I do? He is never on AIM and hell, I can't sue a 12 year old or whatever the hell he is.

B) Am I being fair on asking for a refund here?

hekwu
11-05-2002, 04:57 AM
Did you pay with credit card??? then you should have no problems... call your credit card company and tell them what is going on....

faculty
11-05-2002, 05:00 AM
Err... Nup, live in Australia - May as well go jump in the pond and have a swim. They simply WILL NOT do a chargeback for me as.. well, they wont.

Our banks are much more strict about stuff like that. They are aware of how some people tend to enjoy buying something, actually getting it then doing a chargeback.

Darth
11-05-2002, 05:00 AM
"Charge back", what a wonderful word.

faculty
11-05-2002, 05:00 AM
:rolleyes: Read up gary :stickout:

Darth
11-05-2002, 05:01 AM
Posted at the same time, looks like my solution is no use :(, bargain with him, try and get 15 days free etc.l

cybotix
11-05-2002, 06:12 AM
Originally posted by faculty
Here is the convo I had with him.

RackSolid and blws anth (http://brightlightwebsites.com/racksolid.htm) omg it sounds so much like timmay

WiredMom
11-05-2002, 06:19 AM
by any chance was that server going to be located at 56marietta?

UH-Matt
11-05-2002, 06:24 AM
I think host charge wont let them issue the refund until the funds clear (15th) so he is right on that point, BUT he could have been a lot nicer about the whole thing, seems like they really dont like giving anything back :)

Techark
11-05-2002, 06:32 AM
Why would you lease a server for your business without reading the providers terms of service or even consider doing business with a kid ?

I bet he can't issue a refund until the 15th because he does not have enough money in his account to do it until then.

UH-Matt
11-05-2002, 06:43 AM
Thats what i was going to say, if there was funds there he could do refund, if not - he has to wait for your funds to clear before he can release them for a refund..

His balance is empty and he has providers to pay :/

Synwave
11-05-2002, 06:50 AM
wow

I cant believe you were so calm during that conversation!!

faculty
11-05-2002, 07:04 AM
I try to stay calm as possible in any situation :stickout:

I had asked him of his age, and if he had anything to do with Tim in previous occasions. I was told no.

I had also asked about Terms and Conditions/Policies and he said they were being made and would be mailed (email) to me.

Apparently these servers were going to be placed in 56marietta, yes.

Darth
11-05-2002, 07:06 AM
A lesson well learned I say ;)

faculty
11-05-2002, 07:09 AM
Perhaps the greater lesson will be learnt on Timmy's side ;)


Thanks to his new little website: http://v3host.com/

It could possibly lead me to the guy :)

UH-Matt
11-05-2002, 07:12 AM
Please contact Tim here:

6455 Turnertown Rd
Franklin, KY 42134
270-647-1386

:D :D :D

Chachi
11-05-2002, 07:13 AM
well...

How many of this companies that he goes on about, are legally registered companies. Can he prove their incorporation? by showing some certificates maybe?

Maybe a call to the taxing department for the state he's in might sort him out ;)

Techark
11-05-2002, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by faculty
Perhaps the greater lesson will be learnt on Timmy's side ;)


Thanks to his new little website: http://v3host.com/

It could possibly lead me to the guy :)

How do you know this is Timmy? Just curious.

tazzy
11-05-2002, 08:32 AM
v3Host has been taken over by Tim Petty, the owner of Paradise Designs, PixelGenie, RackSolid, ColoDedication, among other companies.

Please contact Tim here:

6455 Turnertown Rd
Franklin, KY 42134
270-647-1386


:eek:

Darth
11-05-2002, 08:34 AM
Oh my god... another disaster.

tazzy
11-05-2002, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by Darth
Oh my god... another disaster.

There is more


Contact Type
Registrant Organization Name RackSolid
First Name Sales
Last Name Department
Address 1 PO Box 655
Address 2 City Brundidge
StateProvince AL
PostalCode 36010
Country US
Phone N/A
Fax N/A
EmailAddress sales@racksolid.com


That isn't his address.... so... whos' is it?

Chachi
11-05-2002, 08:46 AM
I get :

RackSolid is Launching Today!!!

when trying to visit www.racksolid.com

:(

WiredMom
11-05-2002, 08:50 AM
faculty - i think we ordered from the same guy - i ordered mine on the 12th and am still waiting - he arranged to give me another from some friend in the same datacenter? to tied me over I think.
i had to pay for it of course. but it was online - so i grabbed it - i was in a jam.

Unfortunately its down at the moment - and i'm not listed as the contact owner for it yet or something? At least thats what GC says so I cant reboot it.
-taps fingers waiting for one of the aliases to come online-

Darth
11-05-2002, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by tazzy


There is more



That isn't his address.... so... whos' is it?

TIMMAY! :D can't wait to see what happens.

SoftWareRevue
11-05-2002, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by UH-Matt
Please contact Tim here:

6455 Turnertown Rd
Franklin, KY 42134
270-647-1386

:D :D :D That just goes so far against every thing he's ever done.

weeps
11-05-2002, 08:57 AM
How did you two buy servers from him if he doesnt have a site open yet?

Aussie Bob
11-05-2002, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by faculty
Perhaps the greater lesson will be learnt on Timmy's side ;)


Thanks to his new little website: http://v3host.com/

It could possibly lead me to the guy :)
lol -
v3Host has been taken over by Tim Petty, the owner of Paradise Designs, PixelGenie, RackSolid, ColoDedication, among other companies.

Please contact Tim here:

6455 Turnertown Rd
Franklin, KY 42134
270-647-1386

weeps
11-05-2002, 08:59 AM
I have yet to understand how this guy keeps getting customers so fast after opening a new company.

Techark
11-05-2002, 08:59 AM
faculty as bad as I hate to say it, you're screwed.

Aussie Bob
11-05-2002, 09:00 AM
:D

Techark
11-05-2002, 09:02 AM
How do they find him on AM he doesn't even have a web site, who buys a dedicated server from a guy on AM without a web site.

Monte stands in corner shaking his head:cartman:

weeps
11-05-2002, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by Monte
How do they find him on AM he doesn't even have a web site, who buys a dedicated server from a guy on AM without a web site.

Monte stands in corner shaking his head:cartman:

I posted the same thing :-)

Chachi
11-05-2002, 09:06 AM
Monte,

For some reason, all the sites associated with Timmy are either fixed with a "coming soon" page or they're down. I've seen the RackSolid design, it's another design similar to FloHot/Advantahost etc, that same blue and gradient look.

WiredMom
11-05-2002, 09:07 AM
i cant speak for faculty..but he found me on aim..during a time period where i was shopping for servers...

kdghsu > in my case I was an idiot - I was in a corner and took the easy way out...add a dash of naivete/misplaced trust and there ya go - me.

I did contact GC about him before ordering - asking for a vouch - see if its on the up and up and all that - and I sort of got a reply - looked okay from that end.

I'm not blaming anyone - I took a risk - tis my own fault -nods- just ~really~ painful to swallow.

Synwave
11-05-2002, 09:09 AM
Can I be rude and ask you both, How much he owes you?

Aussie Bob
11-05-2002, 09:09 AM
TIIIIMMMMMMAAAAAAYYYYY (http://209.123.207.16/timmy.mp3) :eek: :D

Chachi
11-05-2002, 09:11 AM
So it seems they're ALL tangled in this web of Timmay, and it seems to happen when they buy a design from him :rolleyes:

I remember R K Raja talking about RackSolid and how they've got a full rack at GC. When I pointed about our servers in HE, he laughed it off, saying he felt GC was better....

allera
11-05-2002, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by Shi
I did contact GC about him before ordering - asking for a vouch - see if its on the up and up and all that - and I sort of got a reply - looked okay from that end.
What did GC say?

Jim_UK
11-05-2002, 10:18 AM
This isn't directed at anyone inparticular but it seems to me that in some cases, if a 'too good to be true' deal is put in front of someone, they go for it hoping to high heaven that it will all turn out okay. Unfortunately, a price like this seems to wipe out the rational part of the brain which would normally make someone turn around and look elsewhere.

With no website
Dubious contact details
No TOS
etc
etc

^^^ It may sound a little brutal but I don't mean any offense: how many signs do you need?

richy
11-05-2002, 10:22 AM
why cant this little **** be sorted out once and for all. hes broken the law so many times, cant you all file a class action against his parents, or get a paypal collection together and pay for a few rearranged limbs.

Andrew
11-05-2002, 10:56 AM
I dunno man...unless Timmah's taken a couple english lessons, I don't think it's him in that convo.

clocker1996
11-05-2002, 10:58 AM
yep. that is DEFINITELY timmay. You can just tell by the way he talks.

"You was fine with that"

hah.

tazzy
11-05-2002, 11:03 AM
:eek: Interesting...

I found some new name for Timmay .. seeing as he likes to add more names...

scamhost.com
scamhosting.com

:rolleyes:

I'm suprised scamhost.com isn't taken :eek:

ZBoca
11-05-2002, 11:04 AM
That has to be Timmy.. Agree with Clocker, you can definitely see it in his writing.

greatbeast
11-05-2002, 11:18 AM
I think Faculty is Really Screwed.

(I WOULD however try calling up the bank and explaining the situation and seeing if maybe they will perform a chargeback in this case. Even if it fails, you would have at least tried that route.

after all, nothing ventured, nothing gained.)


I think it was a poor decision signing with a company that didnt even have T&C posted, but we all do unwise things in life, and technically I've done things that made a lot less sense myself.

It might also be worth it (depending on how much money is involved) to have someone-- maybe a private detective or even the local police if they can be convinced to get up and do it--pay a visit to the registered owner of the PO Box. THAT might shake the trees enough for a scared scam artist (or 12 year old) to let go of a sweaty pawfull of money to get rid of you.

atr
11-05-2002, 11:22 AM
Sorry I did not make a big deal out of it earlier to warn everyone about the connection between Timmy and RK Raja--and Timmy, Advantahost, Racksolid, and now V3host.

http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85654&perpage=15&pagenumber=2


Let me add that Timmy does have a recognizable writing style. Every time I accused him of having not fixed my problem at Advantahost, he replied with "Excuse me?" What a nut. At least he refunded my money (after I threatened to chargeback).

atr
11-05-2002, 11:31 AM
I paid for my Advantahost account with 2checkout. If you also used 2checkout, I encourage you to contact them about the situation--you might be able to get them to revoke his merchant account.

TheMMIz
11-05-2002, 11:38 AM
Contact HostCharge, they know all about Timmy, and probably would be willing to work with you.

Its plain and simple. Tim is scum. He has a few years before he turns 18, but when he does I have no cloubt his credit history will be done. Scum.

clocker1996
11-05-2002, 12:29 PM
This is why i'm so careful when I buy servers. I always post in threads saying things like "If anyone actually ends up getting their servers, please do let us know"

example

the other day i emailed a host, and gave them a config
xp 2000+
1gb of ram
40gb hd
150 gb of UUNet bandwidth

you know what they told me? $79/mo , $1 setup fee

Too good to be true. So I didn't end up going with them simply because i know i'm probably giogn to get burned.

when buying servers, always search on wht, search on the web, search for info, ask around.. get as much ifno as you can on the host.

gotta be careful. too many scam artists out there

hostingsp
11-05-2002, 12:58 PM
Looks like you din't re-search about hosting and that ISP..

I guess you are the bad here do your work and you will not have to dill it this...

Now wait for the 15 our are you goin to starve to death if you wait till than???


PS : You did order, but did you send a email first to ask lost's off questions to get there side and to get a grip @ than ?

:beer: wait till 15 :)

RackSolid
11-05-2002, 01:19 PM
Hello,
RackSolid, isn't connected with "Timmy" in anyway possible. The refund was processed to this client upon the request of the refund. RackSolid, has emailed HostCharge, our Merchant processing company, to check and see how the refund is going. From our end everything appears to have gone though perfectly fine. However, We don't appreciate you in anyway trying to connect us with "Timmy", we have no involvements with "Timmy".

Akash
11-05-2002, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by RackSolid
Hello,
RackSolid, isn't connected with "Timmy" in anyway possible. The refund was processed to this client upon the request of the refund. RackSolid, has emailed HostCharge our Merchant processing company to check and see how the refund is going. From our end everything appears to have gone though perfectly fine. However, We don't appreciate you in anyway trying to connect us with "Timmy" we have no involvements with "Timmy".

Could you please post your contact information (name, email, address, and phone #) ?

cybotix
11-05-2002, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by RackSolid
RackSolid, isn't connected with "Timmy" in anyway possible. RackSolid, has ...punctuation where none is needed


emailed HostCharge[,] our Merchant processing company[,] to check and see ... trying to connect us with "Timmy"[,] we have no involvements with "Timmy". [/B]no punctuation where there should be



definitely timmah

Incognito
11-05-2002, 02:23 PM
I really want to sympathize.....but.....

You suspected it might be Timmah or you would not have asked....

You purchased from a blind AIM....

Now....from Timmah's reputation, if it was him, did you believe he would tell the truth?

Why ask a question which when answered will not help you (because you will not know if answered truthfully).

Timmah preys on those looking for deals too good to be true. He is always circling overhead (well through AIM and boards etc)....everyone better keep under cover for protection.

TheMMIz
11-05-2002, 02:29 PM
Anyone who has had ANY dealings with Timmy will know RackSolid is him. The AIM conversation says it all, he uses that same excuse for ALL his customers that ask for refunds. Timmy has a desire to always be in control, even when his customers ask for refunds. The whole "Not until the 15th" is something he has been using forever.

Punctuation seems to have escaped Timmy. Go back and read those posts by Tim, then re-read RackSolid and the AIM conversation, that's Timmy all right.

Timmmy Timmy Timmy.

ninji
11-05-2002, 02:45 PM
::cough cough::
SMALL CLAIMS COURT!
::cough cough::

mushrew
11-05-2002, 02:56 PM
"Punctuation seems to have escaped Timmy. Go back and read those posts by Tim, then re-read RackSolid and the AIM conversation, that's Timmy all right."

He used to Randomly Capitalize words in Sentances like This. He Only did it once or Twice in the AIM Log so I'm not Sure if it is Him.

The Prohacker
11-05-2002, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by mushrew
[BHe used to Randomly Capitalize words in Sentances like This. He Only did it once or Twice in the AIM Log so I'm not Sure if it is Him. [/B]

Kinda like this :D

"RackSolid, has emailed HostCharge our Merchant processing "

:D

cybotix
11-05-2002, 03:12 PM
whenever timmah's in a situation where ur obviously right and timmah's obviously wrong, he always says "that's just the way it is" or "i know for sure because i know" or something like that. it's impossible to reason with him.

weeps
11-05-2002, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by The Prohacker


Kinda like this :D

"RackSolid, has emailed HostCharge our Merchant processing "

:D

That makes no sence at all !

mushrew
11-05-2002, 03:17 PM
Yeah but you'll notice he only does it once or twice throughout all the conversations from him posted today, while if you look back on old Timmay posts you'll see the improper capitalization used quite often, occuring several times a sentance.

cybotix
11-05-2002, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by mushrew
Yeah but you'll notice he only does it once or twice throughout all the conversations from him posted today, while if you look back on old Timmay posts you'll see the improper capitalization used quite often, occuring several times a sentance. maybe he fixed his shift key? :D

The Prohacker
11-05-2002, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by kdghsu


That makes no sence at all !


Ok.... First..

Read the original quote in my post... Its about Timmah using random caps...

Then..

Read the quote bellow my text, and notice that he capatilized Merchant when it didn't need to be :D

faculty
11-05-2002, 04:23 PM
Ok ok.. First things is first, He wasn't just a blind AIM contact. Raja introduced me to him, after I had asked for a dedi on these forums.

Thanks Raja :rolleyes:


RackSolid (TIM);
If you honestly put the refund thru, and for some unforsaken reason it has not yet reached my account (What is this world coming too?!), then by all means, have your merchant contact me to verify the refund has been set :)

ChickenSteak
11-05-2002, 04:40 PM
All I have to say is: LOL:D

atr
11-05-2002, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by faculty
Ok ok.. First things is first, He wasn't just a blind AIM contact. Raja introduced me to him, after I had asked for a dedi on these forums.

Thanks Raja :rolleyes:


RackSolid (TIM);
If you honestly put the refund thru, and for some unforsaken reason it has not yet reached my account (What is this world coming too?!), then by all means, have your merchant contact me to verify the refund has been set :)


RK Raja and Tim might as well be the same person. When someone posts on WHT as a salesperson for Advantahost, Racksolid, or V3host, it's Raja. Then it turns out that "Tim" is actually running the show, and Raja acts like he's just the salesman for some reputable people.

If they are not in fact the same person, they have a very very close relationship.

When I was having problems with Advantahost, I tried to call Raja on the phone, since he was still listed with the registrar. His dad took a message for me. Shortly thereafter, I received these two messages, from Advanta Support:

"R. K. Raja has responded to your help desk request.

-----------------------------------------------
(R. K. Raja)
-----------------------------------------------
Time: 24-10-2002-4:41
: Please be patient as this problem is being resolved. Calling our
phone lines repeatedly will only delay the process as we don't offer phone support just yet."


"Advanta Tim has responded to your help desk request.

-----------------------------------------------
(Advanta Tim)
-----------------------------------------------
Time: 24-10-2002-5:47
: Hello,
We don't appreciate making any attempt to reach us via phone. At this point we don't provide Phone Support ."


Even if he's not the same person as Timmy, Raja should not be considered trustworthy.

RobotDSquad
11-05-2002, 05:25 PM
^^ Now that sounds like a company I'd love to do business with. Who in their right mind gets mad about you trying to call them? If you don't want to be called, don't put your phone number online.

skylab
11-05-2002, 05:33 PM
well, it's probably his dad that got upset for the guy calling.

seriously, noone has called his local law enforcement to pay his parents a visit? come on.

atr
11-05-2002, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by skylab
well, it's probably his dad that got upset for the guy calling.

Actually, his dad was very polite, even when I called him the second time. He took a message for me, which he obviously passed on to his son, RK Raja. RK Raja never called me back, but I did get the e-mails that you see above. Fortunately, after some back-and-forth with "Advanta Tim," I got my refund.

clocker1996
11-05-2002, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by ChickenSteak
All I have to say is: LOL:D

What are you laughing at? You're like 13 aren't you???

People have had some trouble you before. So I don't see how you're any better.

Haze
11-05-2002, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by faculty
Err... Nup, live in Australia - May as well go jump in the pond and have a swim. They simply WILL NOT do a chargeback for me as.. well, they wont.

Our banks are much more strict about stuff like that. They are aware of how some people tend to enjoy buying something, actually getting it then doing a chargeback.

Thats a typical Australian comment for you. Nobody sticks up for them selves here, its insane! Trust me, they do chargebacks, we have needed them for a very very hefty chargeback and we ended up getting most of it. We would have had the rest if not not for the bank loosing our paper work. Just remember, no matter what anyone else says, you are not a customer of the bank, they work for YOU! They only make it appear the other way arround. If your determined and persistant, you will be surprised just what can happen.. even in Australia!

mushrew
11-05-2002, 10:36 PM
"Phone Support ." Grammar 101 anyone?

Andrew
11-05-2002, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by mushrew
"Phone Support ." Grammar 101 anyone?

heh...he misheard them and took Scammer 101 instead...

epitomized
11-06-2002, 12:19 AM
Don't knock the kid around too much . . .

He has a future waiting for him in politics!

You may be telling your grandkids "I remember when President Timmy frequented WHT!"

Speaking of politics . . . you should see Monica Lewinsky today. *BARF*

StevenG
11-06-2002, 12:29 AM
Only place timmah is going is JAIL .... when the fraud squad bust his ASS :)

Hello Tim btw.. hope you are having a nice day .. not really no :D

ChickenSteak
11-06-2002, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by clocker1996


What are you laughing at? You're like 13 aren't you???

People have had some trouble you before. So I don't see how you're any better. Clocker yes people have had some problems, although not with me with Rack Easy ;). Although they have been resolved all problems that are "valid". Did they not? You can I both know Rack Easy didn't have to refund Douglas as just because it wasn't stated in the contract dosen't mean it dosen't apply. Although he was refunded, and besides him there has been no one else. Even so this was a case of a refund not "FRAUD". Clocker get your story straight ;).

EDIT: My age dosen't matter although I'm not going to hide it yes I'm 13 ;).

StevenG
11-06-2002, 02:13 AM
Even so this was a case of a refund not "FRAUD".

It won't be long.. taking money for things you can't provide is fraud... deception, whatever you want to call it - And chickensteak, you have been involved in many threads about timmy.. are you timmy and really you are 15-16? LOL :D

PixelAxis
11-06-2002, 06:56 PM
I don't know why I have to be held responsible for anything. How am I not trustworthy? Sorry if you feel that way, you are all wrong.