New Guy here,

But I just have to rant about people taking all the best domain names and then doing nothing with it!

I have ben searching for just the right .com name for a new website (we've all been there, right?). And after 100's of different names, I got nothin'!

Every name I come up with is unavailable, so just for laughs I go to see the site with that name and it either doesn't come up at all, or just has some stinking GoDaddy/Ad-Words type crap on it, and no actual intended use of the site.

It makes me crazy!! I have tried to contact several people who own domain names I like which are not realy being used for an actual site or just don't work, and have had not a single reply from any of them! WHAT GIVES??

I know I can't be the only person who hates this "domain squatting" practice. Isn't there a Domain Mafia or something we can call to "help" them release their domains?

that causes the following

next time you see a 'reasonably good' domain available, you'll register it even if you have no time to develop it, just for future development
You don't know when are you going to develop it, but you are not going to release it, it's your domain, and you think you'll develop it sooner or later, maybe never.

I appreciate your frustration, Bob, we've all been there. Hours and hours of searching for that "perfect" domain, only to find them all taken (mostly by domain brokers who just sit on them waiting for offers :mad: ).

The problem is that it is near impossible to legislate actual use of a domain. Many of us buy domains with hopes to develop it, but never seem to find the time to do it. Does that mean we should lose the domain? I think not. On the other hand, some buy domains with no intention for development whatsoever - they simply buy them for investment purposes, hoping to get an offer. Given the spirit of free enterprise and capitalism, I simply cannot agree with "forcing" development of a domain.

Vito

Guys there are a lot of other TLD's except of .COM that you could find. Really, .COM domains are used becouse the all sites from USA are .COM.

Guys there are a lot of other TLD's except of .COM that you could find. Really, .COM domains are used becouse the all sites from USA are .COM.

Not all websites from the USA are .COM ....:rolleyes:

And also there are many other ways to use a domain, email, dns, ftp, and anything you can think of to do with it.
But even so, domains wouldn't be lucrative at all if there was forced development or monthly reports on the use of owning a domain.
The domain is kind of irrelevant anyways as long as you get traffic to your site it will be worth money, and nobody really needs a common dictionary .com for development of their site.

I've given up on four different projects that I was considering recently due to all relevant domains being parked for ads.

AFAIK, there are anti-trust laws that prevent an individual or company buying and hoarding property that others have expressed internet in solely to make them pay more (registrars ad parking on expired domains, and charging massive fees to "recover" the domain), or prevent others from using it. Domains are internet real estate, and should be subject to the same laws.

... Domains are internet real estate, and should be subject to the same laws.

Right. So, since I can purchase land in, say, Florida, and hope to be able to sell it at a later date for more than I paid, I should be able to do the same with domains. So long as I'm not infringing on a trademark, there's no reason that I shouldn't be able to do that.

New Guy here,
Isn't there a Domain Mafia or something we can call to "help" them release their domains?

There is... but it's not a cheap service. You want something good, you'll need to pay up a bit. Although, it may be cheaper than paying the current owner :D ;)

Guys there are a lot of other TLD's except of .COM that you could find. Really, .COM domains are used becouse the all sites from USA are .COM.

That's incorrect I have .com websites.


The country code for the United States is .us
.com is a toplevel domain and may be used by anyone, anywhere in the world.

I don't even know how many hours I've spent searching for domains, but I know it's been way too much. One thing I found useful is if you note the expiration date of the domains you're searching for. I found some of the names I looked for was about to be deleted and eventually even got the name.

Think of domains like somebody else's spare parts for his car restoration project. The car may have been completely finished, but he is unsure if he wants to resell the parts or keep it in case he needs it later. I myself keep about a hundred of them, LOL.

I don't even know how many hours I've spent searching for domains, but I know it's been way too much. One thing I found useful is if you note the expiration date of the domains you're searching for. I found some of the names I looked for was about to be deleted and eventually even got the name.
Kudos if you were able to secure a good expired domain. From what I understand, a lot of domain brokers run automated scripts that snatch up expired domains a millisecond after they expire.

Vito

Kudos if you were able to secure a good expired domain. From what I understand, a lot of domain brokers run automated scripts that snatch up expired domains a millisecond after they expire.

Vito


And most of them well equipped with domain reseller accounts! So +1 kudos for your patience! :D

Kudos if you were able to secure a good expired domain. From what I understand, a lot of domain brokers run automated scripts that snatch up expired domains a millisecond after they expire.

Vito

yes, I know MANY that use auto scripts and grab domains. THEN they park them and wait for offers. I hate that, because many won't take less than $500. Sometimes, the name is worth nothing and they still want $500 regardless.

I don't even know how many hours I've spent searching for domains, but I know it's been way too much. One thing I found useful is if you note the expiration date of the domains you're searching for. I found some of the names I looked for was about to be deleted and eventually even got the name.

Really? hand regged? You didn't have to place a backorder at all?

And most of them well equipped with domain reseller accounts! So +1 kudos for your patience! :D


Agreed :D

yes, I know MANY that use auto scripts and grab domains.
Just wondering. If 5 domain brokers run their script on the same expiring domain, which one gets the domain?

Vito

The one that gets it 0.0001 seconds earlier. Better hope your latency from your registrar is low! :P

I think the larger argument here isn't "people" sitting on good domains but rather media/marketing corporations sitting on domains. For a price you can get a listing of all the domains entity's own. Either by e-mail, name, and a few others. Perhaps there's a few free sites out there but what I've seen personally is ICANN accredited companies that do not even have functional websites. With the age of privacy protection however these results might not be as useful.


Now those on this forum will know how much it takes to become ICANN accredited. There would be no reason for you to become ICANN accredited and not even have a website that works.

Alot of the larger ISPs and media/marketing corporations out there hold some of the best domains and have usually very bland if not just redirects from them. Fair or not fair depends on the amount of money you have and your legal team.

I've made it a policy of my own usually if I register a domain and don't put it to good use i'll let it drop after a year, however some I just like to hold on to:)

I've registered more than one domains that were once registered, and then got deleted.

It's not really hard to grab a name if you are lucky.

Several domains that once I owned, are now deleted but they are not registered by anyone yet.

Oh and I had to use backorder services for a few other domains too, so it's really about how important the domain name is.

New Guy here,

But I just have to rant about people taking all the best domain names and then doing nothing with it!

I have ben searching for just the right .com name for a new website (we've all been there, right?). And after 100's of different names, I got nothin'!

Every name I come up with is unavailable, so just for laughs I go to see the site with that name and it either doesn't come up at all, or just has some stinking GoDaddy/Ad-Words type crap on it, and no actual intended use of the site.

It makes me crazy!! I have tried to contact several people who own domain names I like which are not realy being used for an actual site or just don't work, and have had not a single reply from any of them! WHAT GIVES??

I know I can't be the only person who hates this "domain squatting" practice. Isn't there a Domain Mafia or something we can call to "help" them release their domains?
I honestly don't understand why on earth would people start a thread like this like every other month, AS IF it was something new. It's like ranting about not getting all the gorgeous chicks your dorm mate has. Totally pointless.

Isn't there a Domain Mafia or something we can call to "help" them release their domains?

haha, is there any? i am looking for one too ;)

I honestly don't understand why on earth would people start a thread like this like every other month, AS IF it was something new. It's like ranting about not getting all the gorgeous chicks your dorm mate has. Totally pointless.
Agree, far better to go find a midget blond, than moan about being unable to get a 'Big Brunette'

Seriously, just use your imagination when selecting a domain, ie:
WHT.com, W-H-T.com, WHTworld.com, WHTonline.com etc etc etc.

Rather than spending 100s of useless hours, true 1 useful hour.

If your still stuck, send me $$$$ and your 'problem', :stickout:
I'll turn it into a resolved challenge within 72 hours

One thing I found useful is if you note the expiration date of the domains you're searching for. I found some of the names I looked for was about to be deleted and eventually even got the name.
Kudos if you were able to secure a good expired domain. From what I understand, a lot of domain brokers run automated scripts that snatch up expired domains a millisecond after they expire.
And most of them well equipped with domain reseller accounts! So +1 kudos for your patience! :D
Really? hand regged? You didn't have to place a backorder at all?
Making a note (or better still, setting an alert/alarm) on expiry dates is a VERY GOOD practice. In most cases, you probably won't get a chance without going through one of those backordering services AND paying a handsome price in auctions. However, I did pick up some hidden gems (at least to me) without bothering anybody else.

people invest in good domain names.. to make a profit..waiting for the correct buyer with big $$$