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KevinYang
11-04-2002, 06:02 AM
I need two servers interconnected .
One is for web , the other is for backend database.

The Backend server is P4-1.8G(slower is OK) , 512 MB RAM , 20GB (or less) IDE HD , no outgoing bandwidth needed , just use eth1 to connect to WEB server.

The web server is P4-1.8Ghz (slower is OK), 1GB RAM (must) ,
40GB IDE , RedHat 7.3 full install.
Eth1 connect to Backend database server.
Eth0 connect to Internet .
The bandwidth is about 300GB~400GB/monthly ,
or 1.0mbps~2.0mbps .

I need the network response time (ping) to Taiwan less than 170ms.
It seems that only Internap has such capabilities.

I hope the price is lower than 700USD/month.

Can somebody give me a quote ?


Note:
Taiwan main three ISPs you can ping test :
www.hinet.net
www.seed.net.tw
www.edu.tw

OJI
11-04-2002, 01:04 PM
^^ post it in the offers forum m8,

down at the bottom of the forums list.

:D

Netbridge
11-04-2002, 02:32 PM
Why not just colocate in Tawian?

BurstNET
11-04-2002, 03:31 PM
You are going to have a hard time with this...
We have Sprint, AT&T, & Worldcom backbones, and we can only get 220ms ping time to those locations.
We are adding Global Crossing next month, and they have a great Asian backbone...but I don't think that will even get down to 170ms.


Sean R.
BurstNET
System Administration

KevinYang
11-04-2002, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by BurstNET
You are going to have a hard time with this...
We have Sprint, AT&T, & Worldcom backbones, and we can only get 220ms ping time to those locations.
We are adding Global Crossing next month, and they have a great Asian backbone...but I don't think that will even get down to 170ms.


Well , In fact , we are currently hosting on another provider , its response time to Taiwan is about 150~160ms . The main reason is that they are located in west coast , and use Internap (traceroute result from Taiwan).

But the price is too expensive (over 1K/month) , hense, we're looking for another cheaper company prior to our contract expiration.

CipherVendor
11-04-2002, 03:43 PM
Find someone in an Exodus facility; they seem to have optimal oversea routes. Here's a few traces from one of our routers.


Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to seed.net.tw (139.175.54.240)

1 dcr01-p0-1.sntc08.exodus.net (209.1.169.182) 0 msec 208 msec 224 msec
2 ibr01-g6-0.sntc08.exodus.net (66.35.194.21) 220 msec 224 msec 88 msec
3 dcr2-so-3-0-0.SantaClara.cw.net (208.172.156.197) [AS 3561] 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec
4 agr3-so-6-0-0.SantaClara.cw.net (208.172.156.154) [AS 3561] 4 msec 0 msec
agr3-so-2-0-0.SantaClara.cw.net (208.172.156.138) [AS 3561] 4 msec
5 acr1-loopback.SanFrancisco.cw.net (206.24.210.61) [AS 3561] 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec
6 bpr2.SanJoseEquinix.cw.net (206.24.210.27) [AS 3561] 8 msec 4 msec 4 msec
7 cable-and-wireless-peering.SanJoseEquinix.cw.net (208.173.55.2) [AS 3561] 4 msec
cable-and-wireless-peering.SanJoseEquinix.cw.net (208.173.55.46) [AS 3561] 4 msec
cable-and-wireless-peering.SanJoseEquinix.cw.net (208.173.55.2) [AS 3561] 4 msec
8 POS2-0.XR1.SJC7.ALTER.NET (152.63.56.162) [AS 701] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
9 POS5-0.XR1.SJC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.52.133) [AS 701] 8 msec 4 msec 4 msec
10 0.so-0-0-0.XL1.SJC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.55.114) [AS 701] 4 msec 4 msec 8 msec
11 0.so-3-0-0.XL1.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.50.25) [AS 701] 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec
12 0.so-4-0-0.XR1.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.53.242) [AS 701] 8 msec 8 msec
0.so-3-0-0.XR1.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.53.238) [AS 701] 8 msec
13 POS6-0.IG3.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.121) [AS 701] 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec
14 208.214.139.78 [AS 701] 148 msec 144 msec 144 msec
15 203.160.225.125 [AS 9505] 148 msec 152 msec 152 msec
16 203.160.227.188 [AS 9505] 152 msec 152 msec 148 msec
17 203.160.226.190 [AS 9505] 152 msec 152 msec 152 msec
18 R56-201.seed.net.tw (139.175.56.201) [AS 4780] 148 msec 152 msec 148 msec
19 R59-161.seed.net.tw (139.175.59.161) [AS 4780] 152 msec 148 msec 152 msec
20 ml4sw1.seed.net.tw (139.175.54.251) [AS 4780] 148 msec 152 msec 152 msec




Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to www.hinet.net (168.95.1.88)

1 dcr01-p0-1.sntc08.exodus.net (209.1.169.182) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
2 ibr01-g6-0.sntc08.exodus.net (66.35.194.21) 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec
3 dcr2-so-3-0-0.SantaClara.cw.net (208.172.156.197) [AS 3561] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
4 agr3-so-6-0-0.SantaClara.cw.net (208.172.156.154) [AS 3561] 0 msec
agr3-so-2-0-0.SantaClara.cw.net (208.172.156.138) [AS 3561] 0 msec 0 msec
5 acr1-loopback.SanFrancisco.cw.net (206.24.210.61) [AS 3561] 4 msec 48 msec 4 msec
6 cw-gw.sffca.ip.att.net (192.205.32.109) [AS 7018] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
7 tbr1-p013302.sffca.ip.att.net (12.122.11.217) [AS 7018] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
8 gbr5-p100.sffca.ip.att.net (12.122.11.74) [AS 7018] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
9 gar1-p360.sj2ca.ip.att.net (12.122.2.253) [AS 7018] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
10 12.127.200.30 [AS 7018] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
11 202.39.83.157 [AS 3561] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
12 211.22.225.154 [AS 3462] 148 msec 148 msec 144 msec
13 kh-b-c12r2.router.hinet.net (168.95.19.6) [AS 3462] 148 msec 148 msec 148 msec
14 210.65.200.10 [AS 3462] 152 msec 148 msec 152 msec
15 168.95.207.97 [AS 3462] 152 msec 152 msec 148 msec



Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to www.edu.tw (140.111.1.192)

1 dcr01-p0-1.sntc08.exodus.net (209.1.169.182) 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec
2 ibr01-g2-0.sntc08.exodus.net (66.35.194.5) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
3 dcr2-so-3-0-0.SantaClara.cw.net (208.172.156.197) [AS 3561] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
4 agr1-so-6-0-0.SantaClara.cw.net (208.172.156.166) [AS 3561] 0 msec
agr2-so-6-0-0.SantaClara.cw.net (208.172.156.186) [AS 3561] 0 msec
agr1-so-6-0-0.SantaClara.cw.net (208.172.156.166) [AS 3561] 0 msec
5 bpr1-loopback.PaloAltoPaix.cw.net (208.172.146.18) [AS 3561] 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec
6 cable-and-wireless-peering.PaloAltoPaix.cw.net (206.24.241.2) [AS 3561] 4 msec 4 msec 0 msec
7 so6-0-0-2488M.cr2.PAO2.gblx.net (207.136.163.125) [AS 3549] 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec
8 pos1-0-2488M.cr2.SEA1.gblx.net (64.214.65.242) [AS 3549] 20 msec 20 msec 16 msec
9 so7-0-0-2488M.ar2.SEA1.gblx.net (64.212.107.254) [AS 3549] 24 msec 20 msec 20 msec
10 67.17.159.126 [AS 3549] 24 msec 20 msec
67.17.159.130 [AS 3549] 20 msec
11 Internet-TANet.edu.tw (210.70.55.17) [AS 1659] 176 msec 176 msec 176 msec

KevinYang
11-04-2002, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by CipherVendor
Find someone in an Exodus facility; they seem to have optimal oversea routes. Here's a few traces from one of our routers.


Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to seed.net.tw (139.175.54.240)

20 ml4sw1.seed.net.tw (139.175.54.251) [AS 4780] 148 msec 152 msec 152 msec




Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to www.hinet.net (168.95.1.88)

1 dcr01-p0-1.sntc08.exodus.net (209.1.169.182) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
15 168.95.207.97 [AS 3462] 152 msec 152 msec 148 msec



Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to www.edu.tw (140.111.1.192)

1 dcr01-p0-1.sntc08.exodus.net (209.1.169.182) 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec
11 Internet-TANet.edu.tw (210.70.55.17) [AS 1659] 176 msec 176 msec 176 msec


Wow , it is so impressive ...
:eek:

Is it possible to host there ?

refcom
11-04-2002, 05:56 PM
This doesn't quite count as a cluster though... Just a seperate database server. You got my attention on the word cluster.

Also - from the traceroutes:

10 0.so-0-0-0.XL1.SJC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.55.114) [AS 701] 4 msec 4 msec 8 msec
11 0.so-3-0-0.XL1.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.50.25) [AS 701] 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec
12 0.so-4-0-0.XR1.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.53.242) [AS 701] 8 msec 8 msec
0.so-3-0-0.XR1.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.53.238) [AS 701] 8 msec
13 POS6-0.IG3.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.121) [AS 701] 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec
14 208.214.139.78 [AS 701] 148 msec 144 msec 144 msec
15 203.160.225.125 [AS 9505] 148 msec 152 msec 152 msec
16 203.160.227.188 [AS 9505] 152 msec 152 msec 148 msec
17 203.160.226.190 [AS 9505] 152 msec 152 msec 152 msec
18 R56-201.seed.net.tw (139.175.56.201) [AS 4780] 148 msec 152 msec 148 msec
19 R59-161.seed.net.tw (139.175.59.161) [AS 4780] 152 msec 148 msec 152 msec
20 ml4sw1.seed.net.tw (139.175.54.251) [AS 4780] 148 msec 152 msec 152 msec


So all you really need to do is get onto someone using alter.net - aka uunet... Then you should be OK.

CipherVendor
11-04-2002, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by refcom
So all you really need to do is get onto someone using alter.net - aka uunet... Then you should be OK.
UUNET fiber was used for 1 of the 3 routes. A company like Exodus which operates multiple data centers consisting of multiple diverse transit providers--you really can't go wrong.

And as shown in the traceroutes the routes to the 3 major networks in Taiwan went over 3 separate sets of fiber out of the US. BGP4 is a wonderful thing.

Shane
11-04-2002, 07:41 PM
This from Fastservers.net in HE

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms extreme.gw233.ultraservers.net [216.218.233.1]
2 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms gige-g0-0-18.gsr12008.fmt.he.net [64.71.128.37
3 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms gige-g4-0.gsr12008.pao.he.net [64.71.128.178]
4 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms fe9-0-0.paix.hinet.net [198.32.176.88]
5 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 202.39.83.62
6 140 ms 180 ms 150 ms 211.22.225.154
7 140 ms 141 ms 150 ms kh-b-c12r1.router.hinet.net [168.95.19.30]
8 141 ms 150 ms 150 ms 210.65.2.10
9 140 ms 150 ms 150 ms tp-b-c6r2.router.hinet.net [168.95.207.21]
10 140 ms 150 ms 151 ms www.hinet.net [168.95.1.88]


www.seed.net.tw

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms extreme.gw233.ultraservers.net [216.218.233.1]
2 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms gige-g0-0-18.gsr12008.fmt.he.net [64.71.128.37]

3 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms gige-g6-0-0.mae-west.he.net [216.218.130.4]
4 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms mae-west.above.net [198.32.136.31]
5 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms pos0-0.mpr1.sjc6.us.mfnx.net [209.133.31.181]
6 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms pos3-1.mpr1.sjc2.us.mfnx.net [216.200.254.161]
7 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms so-1-1-0.mpr4.sjc2.us.mfnx.net [208.184.102.202]

8 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms pos0-1.er5a.sjc2.us.mfnx.net [208.184.232.214]
9 <10 ms <10 ms 10 ms router2.sjc2.above.seed.net.tw [64.124.33.231]
10 <10 ms <10 ms 10 ms router.sjc2.above.seed.net.tw [64.124.33.167]
11 151 ms 150 ms 150 ms R58-165.seed.net.tw [139.175.58.165]
12 140 ms 140 ms 150 ms R59-161.seed.net.tw [139.175.59.161]
13 150 ms 150 ms 141 ms www.seed.net.tw [192.72.80.36]


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