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Sembiance
05-15-2009, 08:33 AM
So I'm trying to find alternative ad solutions to the usual Google AdSense.

The website I run is not your standard site. It makes heavy use of AJAX and because of this there is only ever one page load, the first. After that everything is JavaScript.

The site is: http://worldofsolitaire.com

It's a game done entirely in JavaScript. Up to this point I've been paying the dedicated server costs myself but I'm thinking due to the large amount of traffic the site gets that I should look into monetizing the site so that hopefully it'll make enough to pay for it's server costs.

Typical Google AdSense works on page load. The model also works on cost per impression or cost per click. This is fine for regular web pages where user only spends a few seconds or a minute on a page before loading another one. However this won't work so well on my site. I can't refresh with JavaScript because this is against Google's terms of service.

There are also several other key differences between an ad on my site vs a normal web page:
- The ad would not be scrolled out of view since there are no scroll bars on my site
- The ad would remain on screen for as long as the user was playing, potentially hours

I was hoping someone out there would have some 'alternative' ad solutions available.

Are there any ad programs that specialize in long-display time ads? Or specialize in Web 2.0 ads where the ad refreshes itself?

I also thought maybe it would be better if I found some sort of 'sponsor'. A company that would sponsor the site and in exchange would receive an image and link right on the page 24/7.

I thought about looking at ads for games, but mochiads is the only one I know of and they only support flash games.

I even thought about having a 'donation' button, but I highly doubt this would result in enough revenue to pay the monthly server costs.

At one point I remember seeing a ad site meant for blogs or something where you could auction off ad space on your site for a 'day'. So someone would go and bid a certain amount of money and if you were high bidder for that day your ad would show. It was a nice and slick site, I was thinking of giving that a try but I don't remember the site name :(

I would love to hear your thoughts and ideas on my dilemma.

Bannaz
05-15-2009, 09:15 AM
Great site. :)

There are certainly ad platforms out there that cater for your type of requirement. Such systems are in place on sites such as http://games.yahoo.com where the ads run for about 15 seconds before switching to the next ad.

A self-implementing script can be found here: http://www.i-fubar.com/rotation-ad-script.php

As far as revenue from ad networks such as Google Adsense, I don't see any problem at all for you. You are paid per click, and so depending on how many or how little impressions your site displays will be insignificant.

Good luck with the site. :)

FS - Mike
05-15-2009, 09:56 AM
That is an extremely good site. Very well done. I think that putting a donation button on your site would be a good idea, you might not get much, but you might get much more than it's costing you as well.

dnki
05-17-2009, 08:55 AM
If you have a lot of traffic, there are many options available. You can also try affiliate programs.

engineerroy
05-17-2009, 09:27 AM
Are you in search of some alternative ad solutions like Konetera, Adbrite? Adbrite offers full page advertisements which load before the sites pages loads, which may suit your requirement. Most of the ad services runs in java script so cannot be used in your site pages.

Oracle2009
05-17-2009, 12:16 PM
If you want a good traffic do site submission on directories

engineerroy
05-17-2009, 11:38 PM
If you want a good traffic do site submission on directories

It seems OP is asking for alternate advertisement solutions and not promotional techniques. His site seems to be card game site in which normal Java script advertisements are not able to run

TheProxyHoster
05-18-2009, 12:15 AM
incredible job on the website. What you might want to try is finding a sponsor. Something saw on another website, they changed the entire background to one large advertisement with the option to lower it or minimize it. This way the players can get rid of it if they want but it will provide a good amount of income

A donate button would also be a good idea.

Also another option would be to have a landing page first with a couple advertisements and then have that lead to the game

Sembiance
05-18-2009, 07:28 AM
Thanks for the great suggestions everyone. You've given me some great ideas on where to get started.

Some replies have mentioned that I am not able to have normal javascript advertisements.
This is not the case, I am able to have them. It's just those are usually designed to only load once per page and it's content is usually based on what's on the page.
Since my site is 99% JavaScript there isn't a lot of content to base the ad on, and with people staring at the same page for hours, it would be nice if the ad would rotate or something.

The idea of a sponsor is something I would love to do, it's just going to be difficult to locate a sponsor.

I think I'm going to propose some of these options to me user base, see what they think. I'm sure some of them will be like "No ads, I expect no ads and free" but that's not realistic :)

shotthebreeze
05-28-2009, 12:14 AM
I did an experiment over the course of 6 months and found that Chitika was a great alternative to AdSense (check my website for info if you need it). You can also use it along side AdSense if you wish and the ads are based on search terms. I actually earned more revenue with Chitika than I expected and the payout is $10 I think unless they changed it recently.

kpmedia
05-28-2009, 04:37 AM
Could you use AdSense in conjunction with openX? I might be mistaken, because I've not used the option, but doesn't openX have the ability to time-rotate ads in the same spot, regardless of page load?

Another old script is AdsPro (Perl), which I know can rotate based on time.