I'm doing my research on dedicated servers and found that most companies offer $ 99 / month. Some slightly lower about $ 89.

Is it possible to get a reliable dedicated server below $ 50 Without huge setup fees? I have encountered some, but they have very slow pentium computers.

I've never used, but UnitedColo should be the one you are looking for.
I often hear their support response is good, and their connection problem is getting better.

I did checked out unitedcolo, was surprised that they offer this $49 / month for a 1.7 GZ celeron server. I thought i had my luck, but i soon discovered the server is out of stock. Could this be a marketing gimmick? To advertise a nonexistent $49 account.

I'm not sure...
May be this thread will help?
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=81104&highlight=%2449+AND+unitedcolo

I sure did! Now that explains.

you've just missed the nocster halloween specials, perhaps you can try and reach those still, maybe they'll honour the sale as, it's still listed on their site.

Originally posted by dedi
I did checked out unitedcolo, was surprised that they offer this $49 / month for a 1.7 GZ celeron server. I thought i had my luck, but i soon discovered the server is out of stock. Could this be a marketing gimmick? To advertise a nonexistent $49 account.

If you look on the bottom of the package, it says;

In Stock: NO

they will never have those 49 bucks servers availableagain
so you should go for the 99 one

Be realistic. Just do the math. How cheap can you build a decent server? Maybe if you use generic cheap parts $300. Then there is a cost to put it into a decent data center. Then you have to add in bw. If you take the $300 and divide it by 6 months, that is $50/month. Another $20-50 to put it in a data center. Then bw. Even if you use Cogent, it still costs. Don't forget about the costs to handle the account such as merchant fees, etc.

How many hosts want to work for 6 months for free to just pay for the hardware, even at that they are losing $ for the first 6 months. Not too many are willing and the ones that might be really can't afford to.

You will have a very difficult time finding a host willing to do this, unless it is an existing host who wants to use old equipment and get a little bit vs nothing for an old boat anchor.

Be realistic!

Originally posted by Brad@RackMy
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You will have a very difficult time finding a host willing to do this, unless it is an existing host who wants to use old equipment and get a little bit vs nothing for an old boat anchor.

Be realistic!

Thank you.

Brad, you forgot to add in power. :D

Be realistic!

Yeah

When another ISP can't mach that price she start's to say those kna'da thing's....


Don't be alarmed...I think there will be some $49 servers this first week's off this month..



PS : Other's ISP don't speak bull*** thanks..!:angry:

Originally posted by hostingsp


Yeah

When another ISP can't mach that price she start's to say those kna'da thing's....


Don't be alarmed...I think there will be some $49 servers this first week's off this month..



PS : Other's ISP don't speak bull*** thanks..!:angry:

BS?
Do you know anything about this bussines? are you a host?

I guess that you're not, because Brad post was totally realistic., those expenses are real, EVERYBODY have to pay for it, at the end, you'll find paying it in the quality of the server/service.

Althrough I saw some host offering, I still think that is not possible to do it and being profitable, which is the nature of this bussines ;)

Hostingsp, you really are clueless when it comes to business.

My figures didn't even count for personnell. You may be willing to work for free but you won't be able to hire anyone to help you for free.

It is not about matching, I just know how to use a calculator and figure out costs.

The power was included in the data center costs of 20-50 for colo :-)

It isn't about the cheapest pricing, if you lose money you will eventually go out of business leaving your customers high and dry. Price fairly, provide an excellent product and your business will flourish.

Again, do the math.

Originally posted by hostingsp


Yeah

PS : Other's ISP don't speak bull*** thanks..!:angry:

It's a troll. Ignore it. Got me going too.

Brad,

Thank you for finally adding some sanity to some of these conversations. We all know the prices of what these things cost (e.g. servers/bandwidth/rack space/etc.) and yet some providers offer services at well below costs and want consumers to believe the QoS wont suffer. All of this is based on the fact that, perhaps people would like to run a legitimate business... you know, ones with paid employees, phone lines, places of operation and any other such premium amenities.... (that was lined with heavy sarcasm for those of you that have been jaded by the pitch lines of some of the providers on here)…. And maybe just maybe actually turn a real profit

I have to roll my eyes half the time I read through these threads when I say the utter nonsense some providers and potential customer manage to spew....


Client: Hey, does anybody know where I can get a Unisys 32 way system with no setup and 100 Mbps of Internap bandwidth and a full 100x100 private cage in a Tier 1 data center with 4 30 amp DC feeds, and a BMW M3 (preferably Arctic Silver) with the SMG transmission, and maybe a winter home in Aspen? I will not pay more than $10/month. Send quotes now.

Provider: Sure, we have all that. No problem at all. We will even throw in the first year free with no contract and extend the warranty on the Bimmer.




These people need to be locked in padded rooms and we should throw away the keys. I love capitalism, but this is where it begins to break down….


Sorry about the rant, some of the posts were making me queasy…

most companies offer $ 99 / month. Some slightly lower about $ 89

Where are these two companies?

JWong, just look around the forums or check out the advertisement section, they are all over.

Be sure to do your homework before you sign up, there are good and not so good providers out there. Start with a search in the forums.

My DC:

$20/month per 1U
$35/Month per 64kBps (20 Gb/month transfer)

per u cost covers power, ups, generator,dns overhead

My 1U servers cost +/- $600,

These are just to get a server powered on in a DC.

This is on BGP4 routed connectivity on 3 Tier one providers. They could POSSIBLY do this on cogent only bandwidth, but what about their profit margin? Support personnell ($12/hour for a server monkey that does reboots and images drives) aren't cheap and if you want real support, expect 3 techs employed per 6 racks(47 servers + 1 switch per rack) of gear (for 24/7 support).

Maybe we should consider "economies of scale" here :)
The more you produce (servers) the less the per unit cost is :)

yeah but there is a minimum price that even economies of scale doesnt overcome. 49 bucks servers with 100 gb bw is really cutting it close to the bone. take tax \ personell \ merchant fees into account and you prolly just spent most of your 49 bucks before you bought the server, the dc or the bandwidth. if you can build a real cheap server for 300 bucks, put it on the cheapest shelving you can find and use the cheapest switches you can find your still looking at 350 ish bucks ammortized over a year is 25 a month, now 100 gb of cogent at trade = 10 bucks, 100 gb of internap is about 50 bucks. i havent even mentioned staffing costs, its a ridiculous offer if its meant to make money. its obviously a lost leader.

I know its possible because I do it. Our real income is our hosting, so we don't mind the small margins that come with cheap dedicateds. I usually sell used machines for $50-60/mo, small $100-150 setup fee, depending on a number of things. New ones, 1.1ghz Celerons, usually, I sell for $69/mo (yes I know, higher than $50:rolleyes: ) with a $250 setup. No contracts. Its tough but we've made it worth it, as we don't sell to just anyone, we always make sure our clients are qualified or know what they are getting into with a ded server. That helps eliminate people who stick around for 2 months and cancel it.

i suppose if you run a setup cost which pays for the server, and then your just covering bandwidth and overheads then its more feasible, but its very tight. you gotta admit it would only take one area of price fluctuation in say power or something to make it less viable. im not bashing your method, with a 250 dollar setup its closer to colo maths then dedicated. how much bandwidth and what providers do those cheaper boxes come from.
i was taught a saying in business, if it doesnt work with double the cost and half the proffit dont do it. basically saying if your sailing too close to the wind then a minor change can hurt you badly. you at least seem to being sensible about it and selecting clients.